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       Re: Jed rant stop believing thoughts and the Nav Series
   DIR By: Charlotte
       Date: July 15, 2017, 4:55 pm
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       When one "looks" at it from an everyday normal perspective, yes
       the rape, shooting, bombing is less than optimal. When one
       "sees" it from H/A perspective, none of it applies. What's the
       problem? Where's suppression ? I have to admit, I am curious
       about your technique, but not sure if there's really a problem
       if one "sees" insted of of "looking". Seems like any technique
       will still be a band-aid, unless S/A is done or in progress. I
       would appreciate your comment.
       P.S. Somehow it may sound horrible what was just written...  but
       only if one "looks".
       #Post#: 30318--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant stop believing thoughts and the Nav Series
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: July 17, 2017, 12:59 am
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       Certainly many ''techniques'' that are pedaled are bandaids, but
       there are some very effective ones. They do the job and don't
       cover up like the way they use a coat of white paint here to
       hide the black mold.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 30374--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant stop believing thoughts and the Nav Series
   DIR By: aldway
       Date: July 20, 2017, 10:10 pm
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       We have thoughts to believe, emotions to feel. We are born to
       have.
       So it makes no sense to disbelieve thoughts or stop feeling the
       emotions.
       But very strangely, we feel something not going right, so we are
       trying to disbelieve thoughts and stop feeling.
       That is, if there's no wrong about thoughts and emotions, then
       why do we try to against them?
       Why not just be what we are instead of against what we are?
       I guess the reason is that we don't want to be what we are.
       Teacher will say : accept what you are.
       Great! But I don't know how to do.
       One way to do that is cutting my brain off, be a plant. The
       another way is stop wanting.
       But wanting is my(ego) nature, so stop wanting makes no sense.
       (If I am a ball, stop being a ball makes no sense and at the
       same time, breaks the rule:accept what we are)
       I have give up "stop", so that is the reason why I have very
       strong emotions now.
       Do we still have a way to go out from the circle?
       If we want to accept what we are, what we feel, what we are
       thinking, then it is reasonable to notice them (at least we need
       to know what we are trying to accept). That is the first step to
       do.
       But most of time we don't have such ability to aware of our
       ongoing thoughts/emotions/images.
       Maybe we can do it by practicing since it is doable , my ego can
       do that
       The next step is non-business of my ego: accept that.
       I can only do what ego can do.
       How?
       #Post#: 30391--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant stop believing thoughts and the Nav Series
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: July 21, 2017, 12:52 pm
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       Who is this ''we'' you speak of and how do you know so much
       about ''them"? Please explain.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 30397--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant stop believing thoughts and the Nav Series
   DIR By: aldway
       Date: July 21, 2017, 9:02 pm
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       Hi,
       Thank you for your question.
       The "we" that I was talking about is the objects which I assume
       has the same ego pattern as mine.
       Although I don't know much about them, but I know them by
       talking to them, and observe their reaction, or observe their
       behaviors.
       Of course they maybe are acting or pretending such that my
       observation maybe wrong.
       #Post#: 30417--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant stop believing thoughts and the Nav Series
   DIR By: jonnydas
       Date: July 22, 2017, 10:25 pm
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       Interesting...what is an 'ego pattern'?
       I have no idea what that is. Would you expect that everybody
       knows what that is?
       TIA
       #Post#: 30420--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant stop believing thoughts and the Nav Series
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: July 22, 2017, 11:26 pm
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       In a night dream, what communication happens between one dreamed
       character and another dreamed character? What free will exists
       between those two?
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 30424--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant stop believing thoughts and the Nav Series
   DIR By: aldway
       Date: July 23, 2017, 4:55 am
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       Hello,
       For jonnydas: I can't imagine of something that everybody will
       know.
       For Jed: Sorry I am hardly to response about the topic of
       "communication between dreamed characters", since I've never
       seen any character in my dreams talk or say something. So no
       much resonance about it.
       Not knowing much about free will, since I think they are merely
       reactions triggered by another. Is it a must-to-have in H.A.?
       #Post#: 30441--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant stop believing thoughts and the Nav Series
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: July 23, 2017, 11:19 pm
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       It's a ''can't have so consciously plan and pretend to have it''
       thingy.
       Love ya, Jed.
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