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       #Post#: 6949--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The "jesse" thread (previously: "Finite and
       Infinite Games")
   DIR By: Jesse
       Date: December 20, 2014, 12:39 pm
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       Jed,
       Do you know anything about 5-meo-dmt? I haven't had an interest
       in psychedelics since my early 20's, but from all that I've
       read, the typical experience seems to be:
       Ego obliteration in about 10 seconds, and for a duration of
       minutes, rather than hours.
       It is understood to have virtually no recreational potential,
       and usually avoided by folks who are otherwise into entheogens.
       Do you think it would it be useful for someone to experience an
       approximation of ego-death?
       #Post#: 6981--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The "jesse" thread (previously: "Finite and
       Infinite Games")
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: December 20, 2014, 11:52 pm
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       Hi Jesse:
       Thanks for asking that question because it raises a good point.
       Some drug experience will give a temporary no-ego experience,
       but the problem is it's temporary and often very impactful. What
       happens is one then becomes focused on reproducing it for the
       rest of their life. It's a trap that sticks you in searching
       which will push it away, always a carrot. I'm not big on drug
       induced experiences likes these. I don't think there is any real
       value in the long run. If you do it, just do it for fun and know
       it's not Truth.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 10268--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The "jesse" thread (previously: "Finite and
       Infinite Games")
   DIR By: Jesse
       Date: March 18, 2015, 6:59 pm
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       I've always been more or less satisfied with living, so pretty
       aimless in my approach to getting "real", or at least never
       serious; more just a curiosity to me.
       But lately, I'm suddenly finding the act of animating my
       character to be really exhausting (mentally, obviously, but also
       physically), and for lack of a better descriptor, depressing.
       Nothing I can point to precipitated this shift. I just out of
       nowhere developed a STRONG distaste for ego.
       A reply is not really necessary. Just wanted to document this in
       case it goes anywhere and I start posting SA shit here.
       #Post#: 10281--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The "jesse" thread (previously: "Finite and
       Infinite Games")
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: March 19, 2015, 2:13 am
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       post away, but keep it short..
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 11343--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The "jesse" thread (previously: "Finite and
       Infinite Games")
   DIR By: Jesse
       Date: April 27, 2015, 8:56 pm
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       need relief from cerebration.
       if i go looking for the "who" that's experiencing these
       "thoughts" and wind up realizing no such person exists, then the
       experience of thought no longer plagues "me", as there is then
       no me to experience it.. right?
       edit: in other words, does it take going that far?
       this sh*t is getting OLD.
       #Post#: 11358--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The "jesse" thread (previously: "Finite and
       Infinite Games")
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: April 28, 2015, 10:43 pm
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       Dear Jesse:
       No, you don't have to go that far, you have to go further.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 12032--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The "jesse" thread (previously: "Finite and
       Infinite Games")
   DIR By: Jesse
       Date: May 29, 2015, 9:07 am
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       Sometimes there's the inclination to read material. Lately when
       that happens, it occurs to me, "you've been reading this stuff
       for over ten years, but this is going to be the thing that puts
       you over the edge? Really? INWARD OR BUST, PAL."
       That genuinely resonates with me, so I don't read ontological
       stuff much anymore. But I couldn't help emailing you for the
       Jed-isms compilation anyway. When you didn't respond, I thought,
       "see. It was a trap, and he's pointing to INWARD, YOU JACKASS."
       Last night I read through both of the Jed-ism threads, though,
       and I'll tell you right now it was exactly the correct thing.
       I think the lesson here is don't get caught up in hard fast
       rules, anti-dogmatic dogma etc.
       Lastly, it seems like you can undercut any of this sh!t by just
       suspending thought, or at least the belief in which. That's
       still where I'm at at least.
       #Post#: 12038--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The "jesse" thread (previously: "Finite and
       Infinite Games")
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: May 30, 2015, 8:07 am
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       Yes Jesse, just suspend your thought.
       Love ya, Jed.
       P.S. how ya going to do that?
       #Post#: 12045--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The "jesse" thread (previously: "Finite and
       Infinite Games")
   DIR By: Jesse
       Date: May 30, 2015, 3:52 pm
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       Yeah, "suspending thought" isn't really accurate.
       It's more like allowing thought, without any resistance, but
       attaching no emotional/intellectual significance/energy to them.
       #Post#: 12048--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The "jesse" thread (previously: "Finite and
       Infinite Games")
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: May 30, 2015, 10:51 pm
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       Less talk, more do.
       Love ya, Jed.
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