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Re: Jed's Most Important Lessons
By: zd15 Date: August 12, 2021, 3:47 am
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I don't remember what Jed said to me. My English is so poor.
Usually I read what others say on the forum, try to write
similar feelings, and send it to Jed.
Jed would send follow-up information based on my situation. If
he doesn't send the material, it means I didn't pass and
need to continue to study the material on hand . Even though I
got all the material for the primary study before I
left home at the end of June, I never spoke to Jed. He is the
wisest teacher. I came home in July and then suddenly Jed
got sick and was gone. But his teachings were always there, and
I was learning from watching material and everyone
speak on here. miss him so much!
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Re: Jed's Most Important Lessons
By: Smiling Date: August 12, 2021, 5:54 am
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"Everything is a lie."
"Breathe, relax, and enjoy the ride."
Thank you, Jed.
Salute to you, Sir.
Love ya, Smiling
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Re: Jed's Most Important Lessons
By: Parsley Date: August 12, 2021, 6:56 am
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Jed once said what he realized at first when he realized truth,
was that "I" am the creator of it all.
There is no segregation, but realizing this in an intellectual
way won't protect from fears that are stored in the body.
Realizing this is a good start to take a look at these fears
with deep love and understanding.
Love ya all
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Re: Jed's Most Important Lessons
By: iammar Date: August 12, 2021, 3:05 pm
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some of the most potent pointers jed provided me were:
* breath work
* staying with the questioning, rather than settling for any
answer (further)
* the reward of using self autolysis to dissolve every belief
i've ever held is/was, afterward, feeling free to believe
whatever i wanted moving forward because it's clear and evident
i'm making it all up
* untruth unrealization is an inside job. others can point, but
only i can do the work of opening 'my'
notebook/eyes/wound/heart/mind/grave/whatever
* remembering it's ALL entertainment ('finite and infinite
games' by carse provided a catalytic paradigm shift)
* stay curious, laugh often, love deeply, and don't take any of
it seriously
thank you, jed. thank you, all.
love ya, aj
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Re: Jed's Most Important Lessons
By: anthropisces Date: August 12, 2021, 5:32 pm
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Awesome picture in the OP. Although this place is illusion that
illusion is built up from illusory building blocks. That picture
reminds me of my experiences seeing that more fundamental layer.
In one of the books there's some dialogue in which Jed is
talking with someone who came to do an article on him. He's
talking with that person about ego and he tells her something to
the effect that he's transcended his ego but then goes on to say
that he does have an ego.
The reporter says "I thought you said you dropped it"
Jed replies "I did, but I needed something to wear"
For some reason it now feels like I should say "Happy Birthday"
but I don't know why.
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Re: Jed's Most Important Lessons
By: Kati Date: August 13, 2021, 2:00 pm
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Dear members,
- The most important thing I've learned from Jed was "don't
resist", accept. Resisting comes in many forms and I've learned
that whenever I'm tired, that's a hint to look for resistance
somewhere. I find acceptance the best way to navigate through
everything in life, also in seeking. Locks will open, when
acceptance is found. If you feel something (not optimal), you
resist. Control is a lot related to the need to resistance. And
it has a lot to do with dualism.
- Attachments
- Things don't get solved on the level they appear to be.
- Sit back and enjoy the ride, don't get stuck in experience,
it's just experience, further.
- True isn't the same thing as Truth. Also there's a lot nyances
that changes the meaning, if anything means anything...
- Human adulthood is the thing, not enlightenment.
- What I find very good as a teaching method, whenever someone
was digging into something, Jed encouraged to dig deeper and
more and more, even though it was all bullshit. Some other
teacher would have just said that don't bother digging that,
it's useless. Jed understood that it's necessary to come to that
conclusion by ourselves, that's the way to get the realization
more profound and deeper.
- BS-detector
- It's all meaningless and it's okay. Everything is okay :)
- Everything you do is to avoid the void you are. Even though
everything is entertainment, it's okay to enjoy it.
I'm certain there are many other important and good lessons too,
these were the ones that came to my mind.
Love,
Kati
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Re: Jed's Most Important Lessons
By: LyfeofaDog Date: August 15, 2021, 8:18 am
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**Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with the invisible guru forum
or any community of social discourse on this matter, my views
and opinions are my own and may not reflect that of Jed's. When
I met Jed (after I spent about 10 years digging thru his books,
sutras, gurus and everything on the matter) we had little to
discuss on this subject. I almost finished his first course, but
it had what I needed early on, the rest was already kinda
obvious to me. He clarified a few very minor points about TR for
me, the rest of the time (about 1.5 years that I lived either
next to him, or close to him) I enjoyed him simple as my adopted
grandpa- we played a lot of pool together, I introduced him to
how to properly taste the finest whiskeys in the world, explored
places random places in Cambodia and ate fucken well. I referred
him as grandpa because that relationship was what it was for me
and him. He didn't care that I called him that, and I didn't
care whether he cared or not anyways. I had no questions from
him and he had no advice to offer or mystical riddles or
"assignments" for me. This will be my only post on this forum.
Thank you moderator for that amazing of picture Jed. It's fucken
beautiful.
Now unto the good stuff- the things hopefully you "heartless"
(by now) motherfuckers can find something minor pointers or
nuggets in.
-The three books are standalone works (with some flaws written
by non-TR editors/guys, the navigator series, is a supplement
and correction, all of Jed Rant's can be searched on Forum, they
provide all that is necessary. Jed is just a regular bloke,
meeting him or even having non-stop email discourses with him
won't get you closer to TR.
-If you find the need to socialize regarding this "matter" the
enlightenment business "ain't your thing", you've been lying to
yourself about what you really want or you didn't spend enough
years absorbing the material in the books and his posts here.
-No one can make you realize enlightenment; Jed can't help you.
His character (a glitch if you may refer to him, but that's a
bit romanticized) played his "obligatory" role. He, you and I
never had/have a choice in any matters.
-If you still think you a semblance of free will you got your
work cut out, and likely suffer more than you should be.
-If you are seeking the "next step" then you have missed a very
early lesson that you don't go to steps, they come to you. Going
to a step involves an assumption that there is a you, and you
can make progress. Examine your fucken assumptions!
-Progress comes to in a myriad of forms such as intense
suffering, inspiration, random realization or moving thought.
You can't hide from the universe, it'll come looking for you.
Keep letting go and enjoy your life, the next step will come
looking for you, even if you are hiding in a dumpster or air
tight bank lock.
-Jed's death took me about 1 day to process, it was rather a
shock and a bit of gentle disbelief than anxiety. I see the
death of his character as perfection and necessity, as all
events are. You don't need him or anyone else.
-Maybe the moderator will at one point share a chapter of Jed's
letting go mechanism. I needed this. Maybe some you gals/guys
found more effective means of letting go yourselves that work
superbly for you. Even better!
-I am NOT TR; I don't think anyone TR would have any more
interest in it other than amusement or they need a source of
making money since they dedicated 5-30 years of their life to it
have no other means left to subsist. I think Jed used this forum
as little bit of both.
-TR "experience", past the realization, is not permanent and not
controllable state. There is a state and TR experience. The last
3 weeks before Jed got sick he was TR'ed the fuck out and hardly
ate or knew what day or time it was. Just happily blissed out.
As he explained, you have never lose the realization but the
24/7 experience of TR (permanent non-duality to the core in
everything) is not something he wanted as he enjoyed him time as
character, as he was now fully awake out of the dream, but now
bored to death. To live 24/7 TR experience you need to be a
special kinda character, maybe some so and never come back to
human civilization.
-The mind is a virtually useless endeavor in this business
(Captain Ahab referred to it as a useless compass that he threw
away); throw it away (get rid of ANY compass) you may be using,
but the mind is the especially tricky one and those that throw
it away will smile gently in the beauty and allure of keeping
it, and the freedom of throwing it away. You won't be thinking
your way to enlightenment as referenced in some of Trilogy
books. Let go of ANY and EVERY idea, concept, feeling,
experience of realizations that comes your way. This is where
the importance of letting go and Jed's create and release method
helped me out a lot. This is your means of going further.
-The apparent universe is in perfectly good and standing order,
like a perfectly crafted Swiss watch; it has not forgotten about
you, it's not broken, and does not need fixing. Your suffering
is perfect (as you will later realize). The negative thoughts
and feelings that haunt many of you are perfect as well, and you
will be eternally grateful for the greatest suffering you
experienced, as suffering is a wake up and do something about it
mechanism that is built into this dream fabric. If you
don't/didn't suffer immensely, then you never wake up. Suffering
is universe's reminder that YOU/you any bullshit version of new
age you, don't exist, and any attempt to create one and exert
it's will and control will result in punishment (suffering). You
can only get away so far before universe has to remind you you
don't fucken exist.
-Letting go of the journey is letting go of yet another part of
"you". It must happen somewhere early on. YOU cannot make
progress, progress comes to you.
-Listen to Jed's breathing audio tutorial, some of you may be
helped by it, I suppose most will ignore it, until it it's
necessary again. I have mixed feelings on it, as I don't like
tempering with things, but to do "work" your apparent physical
body needs to be relaxed, and it's away of staying relaxed and
more lucid.
-This is not a journey to be the greatest spiritual student.
Shame on you for being student and not an explorer! Only those
who will take the road less travelled have the chance of
uncovering something new. First thing Jed told me on his email
exchange is to never visit the forum again as it's useless. I
didn't until now (been like 5 years since I started
communicating with him by email). In total in 5 years I may have
written him only like 5-8 emails on enlightenment related
matter.
-If require any outside source to discuss or have questions, you
have missed some major milestones, and it's perfectly okay and
necessary at times to go back all the way back to square one. If
you no longer require anyone to talk to or have any more
questions, then you will not want to discuss this with any
others as they will just slow you down. This is why no TR guy
will visit this forum, or talk to anyone about TR or anything
related to it. That's some egoic shit you very early on in the
process as you cling to reassurance and progress and approval.
-Recall the Jed rant about his experience in mexico and watching
a bunch of crab fishermen. They threw all the crab in large
barrels or baskets, and each crab tried to cling on to others to
help it escape and inadvertently prevent it from escaping. Any
communication or interaction with other crabs (humans, dead
authors) will keep you in the basket of the egoic rollercoaster.
Yes your wife/husband, your guru (how the fuck are you still
having one?), your spirit animal friend will only slow you down
and keep you in the dream state. The price for enlightenment is
everything.
-You can lie to others all you want (and it's a requirement to
exist in dream state especially if you have families, kids,
obligations..etc), but you must be 100% honest with yourself.
-Examine your fucken assumptions and learn what it means to do
so. For example: you are reading some guru talk about
co-creative experience to life and it's making you feel warm and
fuzzy inside, it's stroking that ego, sneakily reinforcing the
belief that you cling on to that you have free-will. Anything
"Co" means two not one. Most guru talk is a false a load of
horseshit created to satisfy your ego and give you sense of
control so you can feel good about yourself until another tidal
of reality wave wrecks you, and you gotta hit up your XYZ guru
for another happiness pill.
Whatever questions you may have can be dissolved by realizing
they are built on some minute assumption of duality (two not
one). Once you find that assumption the questions disappears.
(other e,g. Why is there anything instead of nothing? Am I
already one with everything? I understand (mentally) the
universe is perfect, so what now?....etc the list of this
bullshit is endless). This is what it means to think for
yourself, examine the assumptions your questions are predicated
on and compare that to what can be known. The questions and
feelings become more and more subtle and it becomes more
difficult to spot the assumption that your being (don't know
better word to use here) believes in on a sub-conscious level.
-A TR guy won't spend time writing paragraphs explaining all the
this rhetoric as i. he's done with this shit, he's travelled the
whole landscape and knows every rock, and ii. in his imaginary
universe he will be doing you grave disservice of not allowing
you to discover this for yourself, as he will just turn you into
a cripple that figuratively can't "think" for himself (as
mentioned above, thinking is almost always counter-productive to
achieving TR, this isn't an acquisition of new mental
gymnastics, improvement of logical discourse, ability to more
easily win diatribes, or learn guru talk to impress your
imaginary friends).
-If you are at the point where you live in paradise and
everything is perfect, wonderful! You made a shit ton of
progress and have a lot of freedom but be careful, perfection
still assumes duality. For a long while you may not believe how
radically internally and maybe externally your life has changed;
"get up you son of a bitch"keep going further, until it's "one
not two".
-This is a ruthless, guiltless, solitary journey that requires
an extreme amount of patience to keep going. I think the 2 year
mark referenced in the books is WAY off the mark. More like 5
years of complete solitude 24/7 enlightenment with help of TR
guy (that you were somehow able to find and still has interest
in helping out from time to time). I think for Jed the journey
took about 7-20 years. I didn't ask about his personal life, and
literally didn't care, as I just called him Jed or grandpa.
-I want you the reader (if you made it this far) to know that
the true reason I type these things out are for my own sake, not
yours, you can't be of any help to me. I'm not asking for
advice, as I know any "friendly advice" will just slow me down
and cause me to miss a valuable lesson that requires time. I
also frankly don't give a fuck about you; you are characters in
my dream. I am using this post as diary and self-reminder to
keep going. I live a life of near paradise and gentle blissful
contentment and can't complain about anything in my life. I've
been warned about this stage, and this exposition is
reminder/warning to myself to keep fucken going.
-Self-explication (any form of diaring) is always for you,
whether it be journaling with imaginary friend (Jed), your close
buddy, a diary, or with yourself, is always just for you. If you
engage in that engage guiltlessly and honestly to make progress
to two not one. Don't bring your bullshit about family drama, or
work or any other meaningless experience into it. It's only
about you attacking and examining assumptions (as mentioned
above) that will become more subtle and difficult to spot with
time.
-If you need some love in your life and friend to talk to, maube
the moderator will provide that service I've never met him/her
so I don't know what the intention of this site is now, but have
the honesty to look within really hard about what you want. It's
okay to love your dogs, gf, wife and financial freedom. It's not
a sin not to be 24/7 committed to this. It's not up to you
anyways.
-The Love Ya, Jed sign off message that you got used to seeing
didn't mean that he actually loved you. Get fucken real if you
believed that bullshit. It simply served as a reminder to
himself/you "I am you/you are me".
-May all of you wish for things to be as they will be. And do
remember, those of you who have have the true purity of intent
and personal self-honesty, progress is ALWAYS happening, even
when you forgot about this shit for 5 years or haven't done a
contemplation in 10 years.
Toodles and Happy Noodles to all of you!
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Re: Jed's Most Important Lessons
By: solight Date: August 16, 2021, 2:03 pm
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"No belief is true", "NO BELIEF IS TRUE" That was a big wake up
call for me. I was in Buddhism for a long time. I understood
that one has to go beyond all thoughts and emotions, but in the
back of my mind I vaguely rest in the idea that I have to
believe in the right teaching to get there. Jed unequivocally
stated the truth. It's like a layer of fog being lifted off my
eyes. It's so simple, so obvious, once pointed out I don't know
why I missed it all my life, or lives. I am eternally grateful
for Jed's teaching.
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Re: Jed's Most Important Lessons
By: jacoba Date: August 21, 2021, 3:49 am
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In his first book he said there's no you. He gave words to
experiences I had way back and thought were the result of
something I did wrong because I found nothing, no bottom, after
going through intense fear.(I guess I expected peace or
something). That's when it started some 10 years ago.
The importance of doing this alone, there's nothing to discuss.
Jed was a kind of focuspoint I made up, I needed someone to send
my writings to though he was the kind of man that was way out of
my experience. He left me alone, rarely replying at length to
whatever *** I send him. He seemed to understand what I needed.
He was not a teacher, he pointed that's all; and he had some
insights or whatever you call it, that he shared.
The create and release importances contemplation was very
important and helpful. Maybe the most important or only thing I
needed from Jed. In 2015 the universe shoved both this
contemplation and the ' very awfully worst thing' that could
happen to a parent in my face. It was a great year.
His book recommendation - Julian Jaynes 'The origin of
consciousness'. One of the most satisfying books I have ever
read. Nothing to do with TR or Hr; it's just personal, you don't
need the book, (any book btw)
best to you all,
jacoba
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Re: Jed's Most Important Lessons
By: tich Date: August 27, 2021, 11:15 am
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One crab could scramble out in second, but with two or more it
was impossible. The one which left behind would pull the
other one back down. It was the world in a crab pot....
Module 3 by Jed sir. Also from ministry of awakening "humans may
have come down from the trees but we have to take our first step
this kind of evolution isn't of the species but of the
individual from spiritual warfare. No one like Jed sir universal
master. Love you Jed sir.
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