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       #Post#: 42855--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the accident... a brief story
   DIR By: guest2040
       Date: March 5, 2021, 7:47 am
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       Haha this feels all spot on.
       First of all, thanks Jed for the books, and the forum. The
       Trilogy found me in the right spot in the right time I guess.
       Hope you are doing well in Cambodia ^^
       I've done it the first way already. Not really "done" but rather
       dipped my head in. Like you've written suicide looms nearby.
       Fortunately didn't decide to throw the gamepiece through the
       window (I will do it sooner or later so what difference does it
       make?)
       I have to admit it was shroom induced. I kind of see why they
       are not the way, but let's set it aside for now.
       My main question is: isn't those "it's All-One", "divine game
       landscape", "I made it all and forgot about it just for sake of
       it" just ways a brain that derailed from its "person" tracks
       conceptualizes chaos of sensory and mental input - simply in a
       novel way?
       I'm quite curious how a similar experience would feel when
       brain is not overloaded by psychoactive drug.
       Or rather than that I'm curious what happens when the thing
       hits you when you're ready to face it.
       Nevertheless if it's true it's absolutely hillarious.
       By the way is there any way to get a hold on FBB tape?
       All the best you all!
       #Post#: 42856--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the accident... a brief story
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: March 5, 2021, 10:40 pm
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       Hi There:
       Thank you for your post, quite thoughtful... and drugs are only
       a tickle... sometimes a big one, but to really grokk it, you
       need to do the work. I think you have come to undestand that
       pretty well.
       If you want the recording, please send a request to
       cambodianashram@gmail.com. I will send it to you.
       Much love and good health.
       Jed.
       #Post#: 42857--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the accident... a brief story
   DIR By: guest89
       Date: March 8, 2021, 5:56 am
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       --- Quote from: Flo link ---
       > ...in night dreams there are no thoughts? It’s all feelings
       and action. Immediacy.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not the experience here at all. I’m constantly amazed  about how
       in my dreams thoughts, feelings and interpretations of events
       are all generated in response and reaction to dream events,
       experiences and sensations, at the level of the dream subject
       ...and not the level of the dreamer, even though it seems the
       same mind generating both.
       Lucid dreaming is not a thing - at least not here.
       This very phenomenon speaks loudly to me about the nature of the
       relationship between dreamer, dreaming and dream... like a
       lesson ripe for the learning, about the nature of consciousness.
       ...sorry if that’s considered cross talk... it just struck me as
       I read Flo and your response, Jed, because I have full blown
       thoughts in my dreams - but they usually only make sense within
       the logic of that particular dream is all.
       #Post#: 42866--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the accident... a brief story
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: March 11, 2021, 1:16 am
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       Dear PM:
       I agree with you, very similar to my experiences as well.
       Love ya, Jed
       #Post#: 42883--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the accident... a brief story
   DIR By: guest89
       Date: March 18, 2021, 5:23 pm
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       I popped past the forum back yesterday to see if my response to
       the response about the dream experience had elicited further
       response and it had, from you Jed, indicating you concurred
       …which was mildly interesting because I thought you had been
       agreeing with the original poster to whom I was responding,
       guessing that I had misread that part.
       So last night I'm trapped in my bathroom with an inquisitive and
       rather annoying young boy, part of a much larger, more
       convoluted and complex scenario that included me smoking my own
       rather than accepting one from a young and attractive, nervously
       edgy Russian girl, at a pop-up karaoke bar in the small urban
       park nearby, whose equally attractive Brazilian boyfriend at the
       mic also only smoked his own and who, she informed me without
       implied criticism, was gay. I should've guessed by the glitter
       encrusted cigarette butts in the ashtray at her table. It was
       before that, in the nice big bathroom back at my place, I locked
       the door and turned around to go and found the boy there.
       Because of the party outside I couldn't just tell him to get out
       and we agreed to take turns. And even though he was annoying, he
       was sticking to the other side of the big bathroom and not
       looking, yet I was unable to let go and urinate, because he was
       there. I just couldn't.
       I woke up and my bladder was full…I'd drunk too much water in
       yesterday's humidity… but wondered if I'd just go back to sleep.
       I kind of dozed, as I faded, wondering why I couldn't just let
       go and urinate, right there in my own bed. And it occurred to
       me: what kind of conditioning….?
       I read somewhere years ago in my studies that the reflexes built
       in the process of toilet training permeate even the dreaming
       mind, the failure to close that connection which results in
       partially-trained bedwetters. Over time the muscular 'letting
       go' response associated with relaxing the sphincter area down
       there becomes a fused connection, allied to the same area of the
       brain that stops your body thrashing in dreams where you are
       moving around and doing things.
       And then I wondered curiously what part of A Course in Miracles
       applied here and the first thing that popped into my head was
       "Forgiveness"… my one function here, so, duh. Forgiveness, as
       you'll recall, is about letting go of criticism and grievances
       towards others. Not because you're the bigger person, but
       because in a dream nothing is real, including sin, and such
       feelings are merely part of the larger dissociation that created
       and now maintains the sensations and certainty of separation in
       what is only ever One.
       And then I was really awake. Conditioning.
       Here's the thing: you actually can let go and urinate in a
       dream, or even awake in a bed. You just have to cut through a
       lot of conditioning in order to make it happen… or your waking
       self needs to be somehow incapacitated or psychologically
       traumatised. I know about the former from when, as a younger
       adult self, after a heavy night on the town and confused about
       which level of the dream I was inhabiting at the time, wet my
       bed. The latter is well-documented in psychology studies.
       So the mind seems very adept at retaining the larger context.
       Even in the dream, the narrative wrapped itself around the
       waking 'reality' that I was asleep in bed…my dream self - which
       is no different to the waking self, just inhabiting a different
       but yet not unconnected context - experienced a physiological
       need which permeated the dream but, because of that
       conditioning, projected into my dream a small child that kept me
       from wetting my bed. In the dream he was annoying because of the
       inconvenience of him being there, not because he was
       unendearing.
       As it turns out, he was a small saviour, although I couldn't see
       it in that context… how very ACIM.
       #Post#: 42884--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the accident... a brief story
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: March 19, 2021, 12:26 am
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       Thanks for sharing. No question from you, no answer from me.
       But, interesting. I believe it bears the nickname: shy bladder.
       Much love, Jed
       #Post#: 42886--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the accident... a brief story
   DIR By: Smiling
       Date: March 24, 2021, 9:03 pm
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       Hi Jed, I sent an email to you a few days ago. Please check your
       junk mail if you have not received it. It happened last time.
       通过我的 V1831A 上的
       Tapatalk发言
       #Post#: 42887--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the accident... a brief story
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: March 25, 2021, 1:52 am
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       Hi there:
       I  have responded, but if you don't receive it, here is a copy:
       Hi Dear:
       Have you collapsed time and space on your experiences with your
       mother? And also have you vanished the identity 'I am
       unloveable/I am loveable', also 'I am loved by my mother/I am
       unloved by my mother.' They are what you should try and the more
       you resist trying them, the more freedom they hold.
       Love ya, Jed.
       Talk soon,
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 42888--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the accident... a brief story
   DIR By: feanor
       Date: March 25, 2021, 4:23 am
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       Hi Jed,
       What does collapsing time and space mean? How does one do this?
       I theoretically understand that time and space may not be true.
       #Post#: 42889--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the accident... a brief story
   DIR By: Smiling
       Date: March 25, 2021, 9:28 am
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       I just saw your email and replied.
       通过我的 V1831A 上的
       Tapatalk发言
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