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       Short vid, death and dying and other things... 
       By: Jed McKenna Date: May 16, 2020, 2:21 am
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       Dear Member:
       Short and to the point, death is not what we expect and have
       been taught. Much of what he says is correct, IMHO, but only up
       to a point/level... permit me to share.
       He assumes there is really a person here, while there is not, in
       my experience. He assumes a degree of free will, which I have
       yet to find and trust me, I have search long and hard... he
       assumes that this is a 'real' world when my direct experience is
       it's much more of a dream than anything else. However, to the
       level that he has experienced the dream given his expertise, he
       presents it very well... and yes, I totally agree with him in
       that we are so far beyond this dream that it is inconceivable.
       And yes, we do have no reason at all to go to Mars... other than
       our own fear... or maybe Elon's fear.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLaVutWXju0&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0pt1McW5q6sTSEimsnq-2wL3WusVYyWWXmPhPXoOfROeZQEXHhC5WBZZs
       Are you ready to die? It will always happen 'now' because
       everything does.
       Feedback always welcome (and doomsday is welcome too, how could
       it be any other way?)
       Love ya and stay well until you aren't... then leave well.
       Jed.
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       Re: Short vid, death and dying and other things... 
       By: kranor89 Date: May 16, 2020, 5:14 am
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       Great Video, thanks.
       When the fear of death disappears, everything would be so great,
       for everyone! The whole situation of (supposedly) good and bad,
       covid19 and vaccines, trump against fauci...this whole thing
       would be nothing more than an absolut fantastic
       experience/dream/happening.
       How bad could it be? Whats the 'worst case'? Death.
       And if that, in fact, is the BEST thing that could happen to
       this small and limited entity over here...it only can get
       better.
       There is nothing to lose, no one can fail or miss something
       except a great time here on earth, no matter what comes up.
       Its awesome, only the 'me' with all its believes about how
       things should be is in the way...and even that is perfect as it
       is.
       I love it.
       #Post#: 41409--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Short vid, death and dying and other things... 
       By: Jed McKenna Date: May 16, 2020, 6:25 am
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       Your are making way too much sense Kranor, way....  ;) ;) ;) ;)
       Love ya, and stay well.
       Jed.
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       Re: Short vid, death and dying and other things... 
       By: Death_by_SallyD Date: May 16, 2020, 6:33 am
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       Thanks! :)
       I've done bunch of cardiac arrest codes (I'm not a doctor..just
       physician assistant or "doctor's helper").  He's right....almost
       all are already dead.  There was one which stood out.  I was at
       an AA meeting  and this guy stood up suddenly.  I thought he was
       gonna make an announcement.  Then he flopped over, face-planted
       into the table. The whole room shocked into stasis/silence.  I
       jumped into action, checked...no pulse....agonal (gasping
       occasionally) breathing.  Started CPR.   10 min's of
       CPR....amazingly, he took a gasping breath.  He kind of looked
       around like he was bored!  EMT's came to take to ER, one saying
       "good save!".  Everyone at meeting congratulating me...but
       something felt waaaaaaaaay off.  It was all forced acting.....no
       feeling of celebration of a life saved....no feeling of being a
       "hero"...no feeling of doing something wonderful.  His mother
       arrived.  I took her to ER.  There was no gushing
       appreciation...just awkward silence the whole drive.  We found
       him...awake...fully aware/conscious now.  I asked how he was
       doing.  He said, "well...my chest hurts".  More awkward silence.
       He may have mumbled thanks....maybe not, can't remember.  Just
       wanted to get the hell out of there.  I'm pretty sure he wanted
       same.  Felt like a boring joke.
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       Re: Short vid, death and dying and other things... 
       By: Krill Date: May 16, 2020, 8:19 am
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       Hi Jed,
       Really liked the video. Thank you for that!
       IMNSHO, I don't think physical death is the greatest fear for
       most people. Obviously there is a biological resistance to
       physical death, but that is easy enough to dissect.
       I think it's the spiritual death people are most afraid of and
       terrified by. By spiritual death I mean the loss of everything
       you talk about in your books; a sense of purpose, their own
       privatized, stylized brand of love and acceptance, the loss of
       loved ones, etc.
       Ultimately then, a fear of life.
       Life is one feral bastard, that's for sure!
       Well, at least that's what has been experienced on this end.
       #Post#: 41419--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Short vid, death and dying and other things... 
       By: EternalDawning Date: May 16, 2020, 6:51 pm
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       Death seems to be a theme lately.  Saw the fleeting nature of
       everything, everything collapsing, being destroyed dramatically.
       Seeing nothing matters.  None of the momentary pressures.  It’s
       all fleeting.  Death is nothing. Just a word for something that
       can’t be known, seen or understood.  I think it’s more
       interesting to think and even see that there is an eternal
       nature here.  There is understanding that persists with perfect
       consistency.  Everything that’s fleeting can seem chaotic or a
       dream that’s perfectly pointing, reflecting and predicting
       something quite spectacular. You know death? There’s nothing to
       it.
       #Post#: 41428--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Short vid, death and dying and other things... 
       By: Jed McKenna Date: May 17, 2020, 1:53 am
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       Thanks for sharing all that. I think I'll make a  DNR T-shirt.
       Would really be in vogue.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 41446--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Short vid, death and dying and other things... 
       By: Mcewen Date: May 17, 2020, 11:33 am
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       It´s long, but I recommend it strongly and in the middle you may
       get a little surprise  ;)
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE&feature=emb_title
       #Post#: 41455--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Short vid, death and dying and other things... 
       By: Jed McKenna Date: May 18, 2020, 3:43 am
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       Hi M:
       Thanks for sharing that. I will view it with an open non-mind
       later in my non-day.
       Stay well,
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 41469--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Short vid, death and dying and other things... 
       By: Neverx2x2 Date: May 18, 2020, 2:33 pm
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       That term "Free Will" tends to get thrown around quite a bit,
       with an expectation of guaranteed singular meaning and resonance
       (like the word 'love'). When I look closely at "Free Will", I
       find a compound statement.
       Note: there are are a lot words that get thrown at me, which I
       see in a parallel sort of fashion - as compound words.
       Example: the word 'For+Ever": (for = 'in the service of'... as
       in, "I did this for you) + (ever = 'time') = "In the service of
       time."  Etymologically, 'ever' has ambiguous origins; yet, its
       use allows us to vector on its definition as 'time' - as in the
       case of 'however' = 'how time works', and also used as
       counterpoint (asserting duality); evermore = 'more time';
       ever-after = 'time after some boundary condition'.
       By such parallel meaning, two people could have a conversation
       and not even realize there is a encrypted parallel layer of
       conversation happening.
       In one of these parallel triggering/scripting systems, I look at
       "Will' by it's use. What I find is a very workable substitute...
       the word "Script"... as in a linguistic construct, a perceptual
       pattern, computer code, behavioral command, and the lines an
       actor reads or memorizes to depict a 'character'. We can
       substitute "Script' in common uses of the word "Will":
       "Thine script be done", "It is my script", and my favorite...
       "Do as thou art scripted shall be the whole of the law."
       But then, what can we mean by "Free Script"?
       Well, 'Free' is often vectored in the empirical consensus as:
       'breaks script', 'wrong' script, 'contesting' script, even
       'parallel script' (ha ha). In a parallel fashion I might also
       consider the 'Gluten Free' interpretation... "Absence"
       So then, Free+Will = "Absence of Script." It's kind of like
       reading the spaces between the lines (there's nothing there, but
       the absence of script allows the jumping between tracks). One
       might say that the place Zach Bush's patients were talking
       about, the place they did not want to come back from, 'is' Free
       Will (Absence of Script).
       Much has been said about 'stopping the internal dialogue'...
       maybe 'free will' is what is meant here too.
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