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Brief Alan Watts Lecture....
By: Jed McKenna Date: April 26, 2020, 9:39 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h-FswIACKE
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Re: Brief Alan Watts Lecture....
By: Chuck Date: April 26, 2020, 11:26 am
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Thanks for posting this. Great morning inspiration as I drink
coffee
Alan Watts is on my short list of historical figures to have
dinner with. Amazing guru-tainment ;)
One thing in this talk that strikes me is how science can be
categorically accurate but miss the whole point. For example,
science does not consider a virus to be technically "alive." A
person, of course, no doubt is. But no person can exist without
air pressure, food, water, the complementary bacteria that
reside inside us, the plants that produce oxygen, the CO2 that
the plants require, the gravity that holds us to the earth, all
the myriad of forces that keep the planet's temperature within
tolerable boundaries, etc. -- the entire ecosystem that supports
us.
So where do you draw the line on what is "alive?"
Science tends to categorize everything as separate, which can be
helpful, but sends us exactly in the wrong direction in
understanding the whole. Just as you cannot separate the crest
and the trough, or the negative pole from the positive, you
can't truly define any living thing in separation from
everything else. The focus on individual things rather than the
whole results in a type of conceptual blindness, like a
Materialism OCD.
Similarly, the problem with most Theories of Everything is they
all begin with an assumption of division and try to unify that
which was never separate.
Just my response ramble,
Cheers
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Re: Brief Alan Watts Lecture....
By: Jed McKenna Date: April 26, 2020, 11:59 am
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Thanks for that. When you contemplate the volume and variety of
things, events, surroundings, etc. that much be just so for this
human dream to arise and appear to have existed for some times,
I think it could well be considered the most amazing miracle
that we can be aware of. We are a staggering impossibility.
Take care and let me in on your dinner date with his 'spirit'...
and I am let to believe he liked 'spirits' ::) ::) ::) :P :P
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Brief Alan Watts Lecture....
By: kranor89 Date: April 26, 2020, 12:00 pm
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I've watched that video two or three times, replayed some parts,
paused, continued and so on. It put me in a curious and strange
mood.
After a while i got to another clip where he 'Explains What
Awakening Means'. Thats the title.
There is a illustration. On the one hand you can see two faces
looking at each other. On the other hand one can see a cup
between them. There a just the outlines. So...as soon as one see
the faces or the cup, its easy to switch between them, back and
forth. Before that 'realization' there was just a picture of
black and white lines, maybe forms.
Compared to my perception of the world, a question arises: Is it
necessary (or even possible) to ever see 'the whole picture'
again after one identified with one of the things of the
picture? While im looking around, im identified with 'me', the
body/viewer. But theres another component, the 'outer world'.
Like in the illustration, one cannot exisit without the other.
The 'cup' defines the 'faces' and contrawise.
There is a feeling that 'i am' already know the answer. But this
has to spoken out in order to drive my contemplating forwards.
A quote from paul hedderman could be the answer:
"A mind identified as a wave is in denial of the ocean."
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Re: Brief Alan Watts Lecture....
By: Jed McKenna Date: April 26, 2020, 12:07 pm
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... and denial doesn't exist without acceptance, ::) ::) ::)
but acceptance has the strange quality of being able to embrace
denial.... and everything else. ;) ;) ;)
Love, and accept you, just the way you are... well... except
that jerky part... like, you know... remember last week...
nah... just kiddin, I accept that too. ;) ;) ;)
Stay well,
Jed
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Re: Brief Alan Watts Lecture....
By: jacoba Date: April 26, 2020, 12:43 pm
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so we can't have a virus without humans and we can't have humans
without a virus, that's the conspiricy we made up together
and you know, the other day I did wonder wether we had it all
wrong, it's the viruses that are keeping humans for it's
reproduction and occasionally they need a few more humans -
nothing wrong with that.
I like Alan Watts
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Re: Brief Alan Watts Lecture....
By: kranor89 Date: April 26, 2020, 1:08 pm
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Acceptance...yeah. Not in terms of 'I accept this or
that'...more like 'Well, there is just nothing else'. I know we
already had it on the subjec of acceptance and that there is no
thing or moment who needs to be accepted, nor no one who could
ever accepted some thing or moment or whatever. It is already
without any need of acceptance. That would just imply the idea
of some one who accept some other thing, two things.
But my mind got distracted by so many new ideas and informations
about this and that which led this simple realization quitly
vanish to the background. And while im tipping this words,
theres a deep feeling that all of that was absolutly perfect.
Every distraction, every (miss)information...even to say that
something led to an distraction is absurd. Missinformation? How
ridiculous.
This 'here', this 'moment', this 'whatever it is' is all there
is. Its already the whole picture. There was never just the 'two
faces' nor just 'the cup'. It was just an identification, a
focus on one form only which hide the whole picture.
Every thought, every emotion, every thing which arises is 'part'
of the whole picture. Its just the habit of thinking in terms,
forms, distinctions which led to the assumption that this is
better than that, i am here and the flower is over there. But
its all together.
I have a sense that the more this 'percieving' of surroundings
as one big and every-changing field or picture, the more habits
of thinking in divided forms will calm down until it stops.
Like when you stop throwing stones into the sea...by the time,
no matter how long it takes, the whole surface becomes still.
PS: Thanks for accepting even my jerky parts ;D. You are right,
i was a jerk and maybe will be in so many moments again. .. And
it was and will be perfect, like everything else.
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Re: Brief Alan Watts Lecture....
By: EternalDawning Date: April 26, 2020, 11:02 pm
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Love this. I sleep with Alan Watts playing sometimes. Ram Dass
too lately. Reminds me to let it all go again. It’s good to
wake up to.
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Re: Brief Alan Watts Lecture....
By: Jed McKenna Date: April 26, 2020, 11:46 pm
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Thanks much for your contribution to my imaginary world.
Be well,
Love ya, Jed
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