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       Re: How about writing below regarding the effect that the curren
       t turmoil is having you.
       By: Rog Date: March 28, 2020, 6:37 pm
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       Hmm, I'll bite.  I think my feeling on most events that occur in
       life at this point is, "stuff happens."  This doesnt seem any
       different so far as I can tell, just more 'stuff happening.'
       What I do kindof like about it though, personally, is how its
       ground the norm to a halt.  The norm which is supposedly so
       normal that its expected day in and day out and one could almost
       think it *was* unstoppable.   I'm enjoying how some of the major
       cracks in the systems are starting to show so badly that you
       almost have to laugh at the ridiculousness of it.  It seems even
       an idiot cant be totally blind at this point (though maybe I
       have some associations who will prove me wrong, but I think even
       they're noticing even if they dont like to admit it.)  I also
       love seeing the difference between what the news and social
       media like to say ("Horrorrrr!!! Oh em gee!!!") while at the
       same time I can just walk outside into the nice quiet sun shiny
       day and all is peaceful and well. My cats have no idea anything
       is apparently wrong in the world, smart little peoples they are.
       Anyway, if shits about to hit the fan and I should apparently
       tell that girl I've always liked how I feel before my chance
       runs out or something, feel free to let me know. 😄
       Best to everyones :)
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       Re: How about writing below regarding the effect that the curren
       t turmoil is having you.
       By: jeronimo Date: March 28, 2020, 10:59 pm
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       Well ... this whole affair is definitely bringing up a wide
       range of thoughts, feelings, and general befuddlement.  In the
       overarching sense, it does seem that this is a good start to the
       ungluing of "normal" perception.  It seems like the work of
       fully letting go is being forced upon "us."  Like it or not,
       it's coming apart.  Sometimes I'm fearful, sometimes I'm aware.
       There's also a sense of excitement that yearns to see how far it
       will go.  There's a part of me that feels guilty about that.
       And a recognition that that part is what's blowing it all up.
       Along for the ride, I suppose.  💚
       #Post#: 40436--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How about writing below regarding the effect that the curren
       t turmoil is having you.
       By: Spiritless Worm Date: March 28, 2020, 11:04 pm
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       Hi Jed,
       Maybe at first, with societies reaction to it...it made the
       dream/life seem a little off...like there was some sort of
       gap...when society changes it stances, rallies its troops,
       citizens to secure and ensure the economy, citizens, etc.
       So at first it felt contrived...but as time passed their version
       of the world somehow became more real...(Sorry. I am explaining
       it badly)
       It's also shows how media/society can fill us/me up with
       dreams/ideas...but at what point do I let go of them? Because i
       can see the point that it healthy to stop the spread...but at
       the same time...trying to save life...it's like you are missing
       out on life at the same time...Just something I still tussle
       with...it made me think of how people get lost in the dream of
       others...and this is just a trick that keeps them in the dark
       (me included)...
       Or maybe I just accept it all...or reject it...no pandering...
       It also got me thinking about how this is a freely created
       system of control...to hide the freedom of the organisers and
       the organised, and that they/me willingly and freely accepted
       the new rules....
       Lastly: what is the 'meat tenderising stage'?
       Cheers,
       Biggs
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       Re: How about writing below regarding the effect that the curren
       t turmoil is having you.
       By: guest1170 Date: March 29, 2020, 12:11 am
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       Nothing is happening. The entire virus thing barely registers in
       my consciousness.
       Btw, I'm actually a bit curious about the "big thing" that is
       yet to come. I may send you a email later.
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       Re: How about writing below regarding the effect that the curren
       t turmoil is having you.
       By: Jed McKenna Date: March 29, 2020, 2:28 am
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       Thank you all for your posts. I would like to respond
       individually, and will at times, but  I am run off my feet right
       now.
       Sounds like many have woken up to the games that are afoot.
       Regarding the 'meat tenderizer' stage... you are right in the
       middle of it. It's data and response information gathering
       times... there are wolves, sheep and sheep dogs in this current
       dreams. But the Black Swan has yet to arrive. Hang on....
       Much love, stay well.
       Jed
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       Re: How about writing below regarding the effect that the curren
       t turmoil is having you.
       By: jacoba Date: March 29, 2020, 4:04 am
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       Dear jed,
       I'm fine.There's no change in that.
       Homebound as we all are in this country. Following the news and
       my main interest is in how people are coping with this thing,
       waiting for the moment masks come off. I don't know, It's such a
       perfect time for this.
       I had been watching and waiting for this pandemic to happen, oh
       for the past few years I guess. Civilisations never last and
       ours has some ridiculous wars and wastes.
       There's  people I care for, one of them is a homeless
       schizofrenic who goes berserk once in a while. He's like a
       child, and there's others I care for. If I have any emotions it
       would be tenderness, or love and sometimes awe for some of
       those.
       I can't share the current excitement and have to take care not
       to sound too blunt.( the best I can do is shut up and listen)
       good to hear you are well Jed, and thank you,
       jacoba
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       Re: How about writing below regarding the effect that the curren
       t turmoil is having you.
       By: jacoba Date: March 29, 2020, 4:11 am
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       ps. I forgot, I read this the other day:
       "In this prcess of functioning that becomes manifest, if you
       accept something as an individual event then it affects you as
       an individual. If you do not take delivery as an individual but
       as total functioning, then [i]you are free[/i] of whatever is
       happening".
       Nisargadatta.
       italics mine
       
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       Re: How about writing below regarding the effect that the curren
       t turmoil is having you.
       By: AZS Date: March 29, 2020, 4:29 am
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       Hi Jed,
       Haven't been on the forum in a while.. Thank you for your post
       as it gave me an opportunity to express what I'm going through
       in writing.
       My sense is that this is a BIG (from the dream perspective)
       disruption/reset event. Also, I have no idea how it will turn
       out in the end - the pandemic will end (everything does!) but
       what I am curious about is how this will change the dream. It is
       like watching a movie/reading a book but even more visceral as
       my character is one of the protagonists this time!
       How do I feel about it internally?
       I go from absolute calm/peace/being/joy to moments of fear
       (generally after reading the news). I use these moments of fear
       to notice where I still hold a belief that "I should be safe"
       because that's the one that seems to create fear. I do not
       push/think fear away - I just notice and understand it and it
       very quickly dissipates. Also, it has really shown me my
       relationship with uncertainty/lack of control - it's been pretty
       liberating, and even exhilarating, to sink into the sense of
       uncertainty without fearing it/trying to find solid ground
       mentally or emotionally. Another one that arose in the beginning
       was a hope that this is the awakening event for the humanity -
       that also have been seen through. The dream, in a way, is
       "hopeless" as it's cyclical. So no hope here now just curiosity
       lol
       Overall, I am very grateful and happy. This situation is showing
       me how far I've come in embodying my awakening and is also a
       wonderful mirror showing me a few remaining "glitches".
       Love, A
       #Post#: 40454--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How about writing below regarding the effect that the curren
       t turmoil is having you.
       By: Jed McKenna Date: March 29, 2020, 6:09 am
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       Delighted to see so many forum members taking things from a less
       than personal perspective. Yes, this event is going to give
       students some perspective on exactly how far the have come. A
       bit of a sign post.
       All wondrous and thank for sharing.
       Love ya, Jed
       #Post#: 40457--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How about writing below regarding the effect that the curren
       t turmoil is having you.
       By: Robert Capozzi Date: March 29, 2020, 6:24 am
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       I do admit that when I wake (generally VERY early) I check in
       with the body. Is it ill? Does it have COVID19? It’s allergy
       season, so it’s not 100% obvious. I do check in with the Little
       Bastard, and he says, “You will be fine.” My somewhat stuffed
       nose clears as I write, so at least for today, the Bastard is
       correct.
       And this must be the case. In reality, all is well. But, in the
       Dreamscape, the wheels are falling off.
       I’ve lived in NY, DC, and now Sacramento. I once took solace
       when I lived in NY and DC that they were Ground Zero places,
       places that would be vaporized -- quickly -- should there be a
       nuclear conflagration. I’d like to go quickly were this to be
       the case. Not so sure about Sac.
       There is a falseness in the California culture that I can’t
       quite characterize. I can imagine that living “life” in the
       anticipation of The Big One leads to a kind of mass sublimation,
       or something. Oh, but this is not my job...my job is untruth
       unrealization.
       Sac gets only mild tremblers historically. However, it could be
       swept up should the Cascadia Subduction Zone gives way, as it
       has in centuries past.
       Gotta say: The Bread & Circuses in this era are par excellence!
       Netflix, Amazon Prime, YouTube, and Spotify are endlessly
       entertaining.
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