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Jed rant on fluffy language.
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: November 7, 2014, 3:46 am
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Dear Members:
Our communication regarding H/A and T/R can range from the very
abstract stream of consciousness to the precise. It can be very
challenging to communicate personal experiences. Often it
easiest to just ramble without much thought going into it.
Having more choice is always better than less choice in my
experience. There are four principle components of a
conversation, you can make:
1.) a question,
2.) an assertion,
3.) a declaration, and
4.) a promise.
Your assignment is to define each and give me an example. Look
forward to hearing back, now put on that thinking cap.
Love ya, Jed
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Re: Jed rant on fluffy language.
DIR By: mariam
Date: November 7, 2014, 9:47 am
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definitions:
1. a question is what happens when i don't know, but would like
to know
2. an assertion is what happens when i think i know
3. a declaration is what happens when i think i know, and think
that what i think i know is significant
4. a promise is what happens when i imagine a future and i think
i have some degree of control in its unfolding.
examples:
1. what is the root of the tree of good and evil?
2. 'i', i am the root
3. i am the root
4.
**interesting, it seems i'm devoid of promise.
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Re: Jed rant on fluffy language.
DIR By: Stephan Caspers
Date: November 7, 2014, 9:55 am
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Alright let's try this:
A question can be seen as further. It is the interaction within
the dream.
Marry me?
An assertion is often attached with positive sensations. The
extra cocaïne sniff.
Yes I will!
A declaration is when the illusion gets determinedly convinced
that a dog is a dog.
I will now announce you two husband and wife.
A promise is a beautiful wish, or hope, just to feel at ease.
Which is never ever true.
With this ring attached on your finger I promise to stay loyal
and filthy rich.
Love you :-*
Stephan
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Re: Jed rant on fluffy language.
DIR By: Fear
Date: November 8, 2014, 2:28 am
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This is my take.
a question, assertation, declaration and promise.
I dont really get much the difference between assertation and
declaration other that maybe the declaration is written, thanks
to the utter uselsessness of knowledge on internet when you try
to get to the bottom of stuff.
I see it as a relation/ratio, distances marked in relation
between ME and YOU.
Question is belittling ME and placing more gravity on YOU , but
maybe in a trap kind of way, like ill use it for my narrative,
cause.
"Are we alone?"
Assertation has mostly ME and just a little bit of you, to make
me seem empathic , like im talking to you but mostly im talking
to hear myself speak.
"I am having trouble finding a job." / "I kicked ass at training
today."
Declaration is like a cutting of the link between ME and YOU,
its like i know this on my own, i dont need even an inkling of
your approval.
"Im getting a job."
ANd a promise would be at least trying to get 50 50 me and you
into the picture, but maybe really 70 30 or 80 20 since its ME
promising YOU, so its like trying to get you to see youreself in
an equality with me; asserting something that i assert will have
continuity.
"I will love your forever and ever."
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Re: Jed rant on fluffy language.
DIR By: know1
Date: November 8, 2014, 6:46 pm
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Question.
A question is the outward expression that something is lacking
driven by fear, Since nothing is ever lacking and fear is
unreal, there is no question of a question. It follows that
there would be no answer to the non-question. My answer to your
question is then a paradox.
Ex. How long will we be here? Nobody has the answer to that you
scared piece of ****, shut up and eat your gruel.
Assertion.
An assertion is the outward expression of certainty. Since no
one can know, nor be certain of anything it follows that there
is no such thing as an assertion. The assertion I have just made
creates a paradox.
Ex. “Jed McKenna’s an arrogant prick” How can someone who’s
not even real be anything you arrogant prick?
Declaration.
A declaration is an outward expression of the Self, since the
Self is an illusion it follows that a declaration of self would
be illusory as well. Any perceived paradox is illusory too.
Ex. “I’m Done.” Nice try dips h i t, relax and drink this
coolaid, you’ll be T/R’d in about 10 minutes.
Promise
A promise is a pact made by an illusory Self to an illusion
within a dream. or in other words it’s a no thing made by a no
thing to a no thing within a no thing. Therefore nothing.
Ex. "I promise I’ll be faithful” Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! And
I promise there’s nothing to be faithful to.
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Re: Jed rant on fluffy language.
DIR By: Gwen
Date: November 9, 2014, 2:38 am
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Dear Jed,
I figure that the one who is reading this is the same one
who is writing this.
What's the use in defining? :-X
Love you
Gwen
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Re: Jed rant on fluffy language.
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: November 9, 2014, 8:12 am
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No use inherent in anything, just make it up as you go...
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Jed rant on fluffy language.
DIR By: Matthijs
Date: November 11, 2014, 2:59 pm
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1. A question: searching for something out of a lack, supposing
that the answer will be satisfactory.
Examples: What do I expect?
2. An assertion: uttering something you think/feel/believe is
true.
Example: I KNOW it!
3. A declaration: uttering something that seems of great value
and is placed beyond doubt.
Example: I will not rest until T/R
4. A promise: saying you will (or will not) act/behave/be in a
way that seems good (or bad) to self or other
Example: i will not bother you with futile questions,
assertions, declarations and promises ever again, promised..
Now what? Question.. I lack certainty.. Assertion.. is this
true? Who is lacking? Questions..
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Re: Jed rant on fluffy language.
DIR By: mariam
Date: May 12, 2015, 12:03 pm
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question: am i the root?
assertion: i am not the root
declaration: am is the root and substrate; i is the striving
promise: further
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Re: Jed rant on fluffy language.
DIR By: Nessuno
Date: May 12, 2015, 12:16 pm
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1.) a question
= answer, identifies the current state
"What do I need to do?" (nothing)
2.) an assertion
~ belief, indicates how you limit/define yourself or others
"Jed McKenna is awake"
3.) a declaration
~ judgment, you presume to know what is happening
"I can read aura's" (that's an awesome and useful delusion)
4.) a promise
limitation projected into the future, caused by the belief there
is someone there to maintain the promise
"I will do self-inquiry every morning" (for the rest of your
life)
it's all wonderfully meaningless and empty.
but I guess you need to ask a question, make an assertion, a
declaration, and a promise to see that.
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