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Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
DIR By: Stephan Caspers
Date: November 3, 2014, 5:29 pm
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Little accident few hours ago, finger bleeding. Now I am here,
saw the rant and find it appropiate to play open cards.
I'll throw in physical attachments:
- This heart; wtf does all that beating!?
- These lungs; Probably 60-70% of the day ignoring nightsleep I
can be aware of breathing fully and at ease. Usually goes into
autopilot: What does that!?
- The brains; Human sponge absorbing shítty data
- My butthole;Natural church (Why do they usually say Holy crap
for huh!? :P Perhaps people worshipped Jezus when he took a
shít?)
The above attachments (ignore the butt) are in no control to a
"me". However these attachments can be played with. Life is fun
for no reason, all meaningless. The heart and lungs fully
resonates with intense or fearful physical impulses. Such as the
time I went skydiving, electrified sensation. I look at my
bleeding finger. Another attachment comes out to play:
- pain
Asside from the loved ones which we all imagine to have, it is
interesting to watch pain develop into play. How certain can you
get that it is "You" that suffers? The moment I hurt my finger
electrified signals were sent to my brains giving me the "ERROR!
ERROR!" mental security call.
Okay before I hit the limit here are other highrated attachments
to me:
- Dabbling
- lazy and bored from time to time
- XXX (the ladies who are after me)
And the biggest of all: language
Love you,
Stephan
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Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
DIR By: BeAware
Date: November 3, 2014, 6:21 pm
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Desire for freedom
The conflict between doing what I want and pleasing others
the need to appear to others as good/worthy/smart/respectable
the need to 'appear' to excel at all my roles...
dad/husband/son/employee
the results of my sports teams
my idea of the future
my savings account
my credit card balance
the weeds in the backyard
my resistance to my wifes' needs/wants/nagging
the need to work on all my deficiencies
the guilt of being poor at the roles i play.
the need to resolve conflict between others
my body
my face
my desire to be alone
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Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
DIR By: guest89
Date: November 3, 2014, 7:30 pm
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You solicited thoughts, here goes:
'Letting go' is a bit like that ‘no-self’, non-thing that twists
so many up. They wax all mystical about the loss or absence of
something that never existed, then start sticking attributes
onto it, like a game of pin-the-tail on the vacuum.
conceptualising the absence of something that was never
there…like multiplying nothing by two and believing the product
is different to zero. …If ‘self’ doesn’t exist, ie. equals
nothing, then ‘no-self’ (which is an absence of nothing) must be
something…leading us to the i.n.s.a.n.e. conclusion that
‘no-self’ has more substance than ‘self’.
...When does ‘movement’ become ‘clinging’? When (i) there’s an
object to the movement and (ii) you cannot stop it….and then you
cannot stop that you cannot stop…and cannot get away from the
entangling thoughts around entangling thoughts that seek to bind
tightly around empty space from which has been projected this
thought-universe, with subjects and objects against which they
can reference a self and to which they might cling, or be
repulsed (...which seems another kind of clinging).
Letting go is not something you do, it’s something you stop
doing; holding on. Clinging is the behaviour, letting go has no
corresponding behaviour, but is merely an absence of the clench
part of the cling. One doesn’t “let go” as such, one just stops
clinging…a subtle difference, but it means that there’s only one
choice: power the cling, or stop.
I notice that when I notice clinging thoughts that it always
seems to weaken...So, my clings:
company and comfort: while they’re here, why not enjoy? when it
looks like moving on, don’t try and stop it.
chemicals: cortisol, endorphins, food (fat, salt, sugar),
alcohol. they jerk me around
enlightenment: i’ve not used the word for a long time and the
empty seeking stopped when I learned that jettisoning is the
requirement, not further accretion. But the habit has left an
aftertaste...
ping: what I call my insights (your books led to heaps of that,
Jed). Be with it til it fades or leads to new insights. The
memory of the ping isn’t the ping.
writing books: i’ve been clinging to the need to write something
meaningful…this is morphing into a burning desire to write
something true…which seems to involve kissing a whole lotta
frogs in search of a princess…well, at least I have hope that
she exists!
Am I clinging to life? No, my death is the only certainty I
have. Take me anytime. When is not important, although I’d
prefer to see it coming and welcome it head-on. I’ve always
loved Musashi’s take: focus all your energy on the assault (your
task, aka, living) and nothing on your shields (trying to stay
alive). Very useful in martial training. "Nobody has ever died
before their time” is a great reminder.
The universe has no ‘plan-b’, so why should I waste energy
trying to think one up? Not sure where that came from, seems
pertinent here...
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Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: November 4, 2014, 1:07 am
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Thank you for all the attachments.
Now, consider this. Where do those attachments exist? Very
specifically, where exactly do they exist?
Furthermore, when do they actually exist? Are any really in the
present? Don't they pull you either into the past or point you
into the future in some way.
The way to let go is not where you might think it is. Your brain
is a continuously 'on' recorder. The 'erase' button is in your
body. See if you can find it.
Good luck!
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
DIR By: Smiling
Date: November 4, 2014, 1:44 am
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In the body? Are you talking about the pressure points used in
Chinese medicine? Just kidding. I do heard that the resistance
of emotions tends to leave blockings in body.
Today when staying with the blocking in the chest area, I
started burping. My guess is some repressed emotion was
released.
What do you think, Jed?
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Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
DIR By: Fear
Date: November 4, 2014, 2:54 am
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I had this thing where I saw how I was constantly trying to
interpret the "feeling" in my stomach as bad. WHat if its not
bad, its just been ignored my whole life? My stomach area is
really something, much more than that supposed heart is supposed
to be.
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Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
DIR By: Matthijs
Date: November 4, 2014, 6:08 am
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I am holding on to
- the feeling that i matter
- the feeling that i exist
- the capacity to relate to others and get a nice intimate
feeling resulting
- the image that the world is worth living in
- the illusion of others, i need to stay alive for them
- fear of disappearance
- Jed's approval
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Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
DIR By: bear
Date: November 4, 2014, 9:08 am
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I think my process is
1. Monitor the recorder.
2. Relieve pain. (Resist to act on De Fence.)
Do loop.
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Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
DIR By: guest89
Date: November 4, 2014, 9:47 am
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In the breath. I notice deep abdominal breathing clears the
tapes the head's running and eliminates anxiety. I use it
especially when I'm nervous about an upcoming performance. Works
always.
Running also works wonders, but that could be due to the effects
on the breath.
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Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
DIR By: Gwen
Date: November 5, 2014, 2:21 am
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Dear Jed,
I don't know the answer to your question.
What I notice is that letting go= letting be.
Whatever is here, is supposed to be here, so I give up the
struggle to change it.
By direct experience of the sensations in the belly, chest,
throat or head and by not
telling a story of how wrong or right they are, they cease to
exist or they lose their power.
I guess the secret here is that without a story about the
feeling it cannot be here, and by meeting it
and realising it's nothing, the attachment is been cut!
Love you
Gwen
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