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       #Post#: 4031--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
   DIR By: Sparrow
       Date: November 3, 2014, 9:13 am
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       > Jed McKenna on Today at 12:54:03 am
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       > Let's pretend for a moment only, that you are at the moment of
       your death. Now, you tell me exactly what you are going to cling
       to and what you are going to let go of.
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       > How difficult do you want your death to be?
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       > Love ya, Jed.
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       Hai Jed,
       1. Fear, in both the cling on thing and let go thing.
       2. Stupid question. What do you think?
       Greatings Sparrow.
       #Post#: 4032--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
   DIR By: Notdan
       Date: November 3, 2014, 9:32 am
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       Considering the illusory nature of this existence and my nearly
       complete lack of free will I am actually fairly embarrassed by
       all of them. So to avoid a pure alphabet soup and in the
       interests of fierce honesty here a partial list of the
       attachments which have manifested thus far this morning;
       My morning tea
       My failure to charge phone
       My Sweetheart's dental distress
       My daughter's sprained ankle
       My exercise regimen
       The fact that I used 'my' 6 times already
       Jed's rant and responses
       Mork's departure
       The teaching's of Jed and BK versus those in A Course in
       Miracles
       Lack of laundry change
       Global warming
       The plight of the polar bear
       Colony collapse in bees
       Poaching in Africa
       The health of my father
       The fates of various sports teams
       A productive bm
       Tightness in my neck and shoulders
       The calls of Sandhill cranes flying overhead
       My oldest daughter's afternoon visit
       Netflix distribution centers being closed on Saturday
       My rock climbing project route at the gym
       Crowds of selfish climbers at the gym
       Idiot drivers
       Fear of mechanical problems with car 180
       Food I like versus food I should eat
       Laundry facility availability
       Bosses demands
       Clients flakiness
       .............
       Boy howdy! I am just one hot mess, a regular dumpster fire of
       fear and neediness and clinging. Tended to think of this work as
       shoveling crap, but I think a chainsaw might be the first tool I
       should use to lop off all these ridiculous attachments!
       Off to fire up the pruners!
       #Post#: 4033--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
   DIR By: Notdan
       Date: November 3, 2014, 9:50 am
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       Immediately upon re reading my post  I realized these much more
       honest attachments;
       Desire to appear clever
       Fear of failure
       Viewing myself as a failure
       Juggling lies
       Need to sharpen shears. Too dull to cut through these ropy
       vines. Least that's what I tell myself. Anything to avoid the
       actual severing
       #Post#: 4034--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
   DIR By: mattj
       Date: November 3, 2014, 10:04 am
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       1. Pleasant feelings of all shapes and sizes.
       If I think about it, the moments of greatest happiness in my
       life aren't so much related to this or that (with one
       exception--- the happiness of family love). What I would say the
       moments of greatest happiness are the ones that just come. One
       day, I blissed out on the sofa looking at my unkept basement.
       But most "life" milestones left me thinking, "Is that all there
       is?" And when I get really sick, it wouldn't matter if I were
       surrounded by sunsets, dancing girls, and million dollar bills.
       So for me, I would say it is less what is appearing and more how
       is it feeling.
       You know what though, we let go of everything every night
       drifting off into sleep (or sometimes when meditating). The
       first thing to go are all the problems and worries. Then
       personal memories, the body, all of it goes. And it is so great
       that it is sometimes hard to get out of bed in the morning.
       #Post#: 4036--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
   DIR By: kozi
       Date: November 3, 2014, 11:34 am
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       Hi Jed.
       I never knew worrying, wishing, wanting and on could be
       considered clinging.
       
       Here are mine:
       Wishing my son can develop interest to learn what I am learning
       about being H/A first.
       Worrying if my son continue drinking and taking drugs he might
       not live long or have some illness soon.
       Worrying my grandchild might be affected by his drinking and
       start drinking one day when he grows up.
       Drinking coffee (one cup a day) what will do to my health in the
       long run.
       Wanting and wishing if I can have my own home than paying rent.
       Thought it’s a waste of money renting.
       Thanks for everything that you do to help humanities who live in
       the dark.
       #Post#: 4039--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
   DIR By: kozi
       Date: November 3, 2014, 12:36 pm
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       Jed,
       
       the question I ask is what would you do to let all the clinging
       go? Is it like saying No, No get away when the thoughts arrive
       in the mind? I tried to figure it out myself but I am not sure
       what is the right way.
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       Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
   DIR By: Mischa
       Date: November 3, 2014, 12:38 pm
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       My cat and any other animal
       and some humans.
       nature
       creativity
       coziness
       relaxation
       no pains
       distraction
       tilidin (in low dosis, its a painkiller)
       the imagination of my self
       the words of all these McKennas, Jed and Terence  ;)
       etc.. etc.................and many more useless crap
       #Post#: 4044--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
   DIR By: Googol Plex
       Date: November 3, 2014, 1:33 pm
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       Usually a middle sized cup of coffee with a name on it.
       And some strange subtle feeling that tells me that I should care
       about what people are saying and what they care about when I
       really don't care at all. And perplexity because of the fact
       that I notice this happening but I'm not succumbing to the
       mind's effort to care about it and yet witness it questioning if
       I really really don't care. It's like that thing before you log
       out from certain web pages when you are asked "Do you really
       want to log out?". Yep. Somehow this keeps happening. I'm
       attached to my mind's tendency to care and not the actual caring
       in itself. Attachment to non-attachment is as whatever as
       everything else.
       Oh, and food. That shit is awesome.
       #Post#: 4048--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
   DIR By: Matt Ricks
       Date: November 3, 2014, 4:42 pm
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       That's an interesting exercise...
       My holdings -
       Enlightenment/TR
       Maintaining an ongoing inquiry
       Insights of the inquiry (feel the liberating feelings associated
       with it)
       Getting more emotional mature and ready for TR
       Having hope and goals for the future
       Love/intimacy/warmth with humans (or animals)
       Occupying the mind by new and interesting experiences
       Mobility (having legs, a car, not being confined to one place)
       Health - specially the ability to see, hear, talk, walk, and not
       being in pain or bound by disease
       Comfort of the senses
       Being in nature and in inspirational places that invoke good and
       spiritual feelings
       My mother, ex-girlfriend, and few other people (wishing that
       they would be happy, healthy and alive)
       The feeling that I'm OK exactly as I am, that I'm appereciated
       by others, and not being regarded as an outsider/stupid/not
       attractive and so on
       Having time for myself, privacy and silent enviroment
       That's for now, sure there is more
       Jed, if you feel like responding or cutting my head off, you are
       welcome... ;)
       #Post#: 4050--------------------------------------------------
       Jed rant, letting go, stimulated by Gromer
   DIR By: claudia
       Date: November 3, 2014, 5:11 pm
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       If I was really in my death bed I would want to say goodbye to a
       few people. Other than that I don't see myself being afraid
       since I attempted death once I lost the fear of dying. Perhaps I
       would cling to the disappointment that I wasn't going to live to
       be 700 years old. I am attached to the idea of ascension. But my
       curiosity would get the best of me and I would jump to the
       opportunity to transition.
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