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       A little more on Karma
       By: Jed McKenna Date: September 29, 2019, 12:11 pm
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       Dear Members;
       Karma, in one form or another, has been a subject of virtually
       all spiritual ''systems'' for a good few thousand years. Here is
       an attempt to explain it from my experiences and perspective.
       We, as dreamt entities, experience karma primarily to the degree
       that we expect to experience it. It can also be called cause and
       effect. I know it sounds strange but if you don't believe in it
       you will not experience it. But cause and effect is not a simple
       as they sound.
       Cause and effect are what I call artifacts. I.E. left over
       shadows. They are the result of us using our 3D experiential
       reality limitations to interpret and understand a reality that
       is far beyond three dimensions. How many dimensions? I don't
       know, but I do know that Truth is very, very big... so I am
       confident there are many dimensions.
       I consider Karma to be a trap. Once in it (via belief) there is
       only one way out. It's very similar to the indebtedness created
       by a central banking system. Just as there is never enough money
       to pay off the federal debt, there is not sufficient goodness to
       pay off the Karmic debt. Why do you think religions spend so
       much time telling us we are sinners. Believe you are and you
       are. But to an infinite ''God'' that debt will never be repaid.
       It's impossible because you can't be infinitely good. And, BTW,
       who determines what is good and what is evil? Oh yeh, the God
       who labelled you 'sinner' in the first place.
       This doesn't mean that I think being bad is acceptable, it may
       or may not be depending upon circumstances and perspective. It's
       just better to be good and thoughtful. As dreamt characters we
       are a product. Every one of us is owned by something/someone
       else and the jail bars are our guilt. I strongly suggest you
       forget about having some unseen, ephemeral and intangible God
       forgive you, or even another person for that matter (like his
       close relative). ALL YOUR GUILT IS IMAGINED and the only person
       you could logically turn to for forgiveness is the creator of
       that guilt ... YOU.
       The question that arises is how much longer are you going to
       withhold forgiveness from yourself. You can bear the burden of
       quilt all you want. It doesn't effect anyone but you. It's a
       nasty burden that you created and you can release, in fact, you
       are the only one who can release it. Don't buy the b.s. that it
       has to go through any agent or the like. You are the only one it
       goes through. How do you do it. It's not that difficult. You
       have been told to ask for it, so, do that. Ask yourself for
       forgiveness. Go ahead, give it a shot. Nothing to lose except
       unnecessary burden. If you get a no, just accept it and ask
       again and again. Chose something small if you like and then
       build up. It feels darn good. Of course if the yin approach of
       asking doesn't work, go to the yang approach, demand it of
       yourself.
       Report on my desk in the morning.
       Love ya, Jed.
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       Re: Jed Rant: A little more on Karma
       By: breakup Date: September 30, 2019, 3:27 am
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       I think a modern version of karma is "murphy's law." It's not
       something I've ever bought into except to maintain conversation
       to a working degree.
       In my experience maya leads me to seek some form of pleasure and
       whether I get it or not guilt follows. I see this in people
       around me all the time whether they shouldn't have bought that
       thing, spent time doing this and that, feel like wasting life,
       etc. It's all variations of one highly effective pattern maya
       uses. Lead with pleasure, reward with guilt, repeat.
       Operating as what is is right I find that forgiveness is
       inherent, just "oh it's that way. there i go thinking i know
       things again." Being able to forgive is another way of saying
       take your hand off the tiller. Still I find that the most
       jarring thing is something simple like someone chewing too loud
       and i hate it, how could that be right? Well just like anything
       else just let it be right, say no thanks to the stupid story and
       poof its gone. The only difficulty in forgiving is how firmly
       you believe your false story
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       Re: Jed Rant: A little more on Karma
       By: Parsley Date: September 30, 2019, 6:22 am
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       Your words are releasing something in me. Thank you.
       Isn't the dream game usually going the same way?
       In childhood days we get blamed for whatever reason. Feeling
       guilty starts when we fail in conditions that we believe we have
       to fulfill. Self-accusation begins every time we do not reach
       the goal of fulfilling those conditions. And like a long
       reverberation this self-accusation is more or less dominating
       our life. All those trials to fulfill conditions for feeling not
       guilty keeps the fraud alive, it keeps us from forgiving ourself
       and instead confirms our belief that we are guilty for whatever
       reason. We believe, others have to forgive us, so we are longing
       for a little pride to distract from feeling guilty deep inside.
       Yes, going on this way is to withhold forgiveness from myself.
       So your attempt to explain turns attention to the chance that
       ends this withholding.
       Turning inwards and see the jail bars of guilt and see that I am
       the only one who can forgive and release. There is no authority
       above me to do so. What can I forgive right now? How about the
       accusation of feeling afraid?
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       Re: Jed Rant: A little more on Karma
       By: Jed McKenna Date: September 30, 2019, 11:55 am
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       Guilt it simple... it's an attachment to an aversion.  More
       about that in Module Six, coming toon. Use ''blanket
       forgiveness'' forgive yourself for absolutely everything. That's
       the source of all lack of forgiveness, it's in you... all in
       you.
       Love ya, Jed.
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       Re: Jed Rant: A little more on Karma
       By: Parsley Date: September 30, 2019, 12:44 pm
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       It's in me? All in me?
       That means I am not a victim, never was, never can be.
       That's damned fine. It's up to me to stop being a victim of lies
       I believe in. How? Forgive everything.
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       Re: Jed Rant: A little more on Karma
       By: Kathryn Date: September 30, 2019, 7:10 pm
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       “When you're not feeling holy, your loneliness says that you've
       sinned.”
       Leonard Cohen, from “Sisters of Mercy”
       I’ve been wondering how to forgive some people... thanks... it
       starts with me forgiving myself for not being able to forgive
       them yet. Forgiving myself for being less than perfect. This
       “act” of self forgiveness seems to clear up space for maybe more
       forgiveness.
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       Re: Jed Rant: A little more on Karma
       By: Jed McKenna Date: October 1, 2019, 1:30 am
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       You can't get too much forgiveness....
       Love ya, Jed.
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       Re: Jed Rant: A little more on Karma
       By: Parsley Date: October 1, 2019, 3:57 pm
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       Isn't T/R including a total innocence realizing? No person - no
       blame.
       So every feeling of blame and guilt must be a deceit, a reliable
       b.s. detector. And an invitation for blank forgiveness.
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       Re: Jed Rant: A little more on Karma
       By: Jed McKenna Date: October 1, 2019, 10:42 pm
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       Excellent!
       Love ya, Jed
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