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       Question
       By: obmcbob Date: August 24, 2019, 4:54 pm
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       Hello Jed. It's been a while since I've gone into the forums but
       I have a question. Is there some way or tool I can use to get
       rid of some of these things in me I don't want here? I don't
       want to have to go through a spiritual awakening or anything,
       but I would like to maybe get rid of a few things for good if
       it's at all possible. Any methods or pointers would be
       appreciated
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       Re: Question
       By: Jed McKenna Date: August 25, 2019, 3:42 am
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       Hi there:
       Welcome back. What you are talking about is growing up... what I
       call H/A.
       If you are really serious about it there is the Nav Series. You
       didn't develop all those tendencies in a few weeks and it take
       serious diligent work to effectively vape them. But the
       definitely can be vaped.
       The briefest answer is don't resist. That doesn't mean just go
       around being a jerk. Really investigate and allow all feelings.
       You don't have to take action on any, and you head won't explode
       if you embrace them. That tends to ground their energy and thus
       dissipate it.
       Love ya, Jed.
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       Re: Question
       By: obmcbob Date: August 25, 2019, 12:35 pm
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       Thank you. Does the nav series cost money to sign up for? And is
       it like going through the spiritual awakenings you describe in
       your books? Or does it just take you part of the way?
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       Re: Question
       By: Jed McKenna Date: August 26, 2019, 4:49 am
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       Good questions, yes, the Series is expensive. For some students
       it cost everything the have, their lies, deceptions, false
       personas, sometimes it costs their jobs, perhaps a wife, and on
       it goes. Of course, the reality is, one never loses anything
       that they really have... have in Truth.
       Let me explain a little more, perhaps not quite so dramatically.
       All a student really loses is their attachments and illusions
       regarding the above cited. In the series, we deal with them
       using the label ''importances''. They are the boat anchors which
       hold you back. They are very real and tangible. Releasing
       importances is an important step in growing up and also happens
       to be an incredibly important thing to do before you die.
       Here is an analogy. You happen to be born with 20 20 vision.
       Pretty lucky and it seems that everyone is similar or close.
       Someone comes along and after watching you, let's say over a
       beer, they mention your poor eyesight. Seems they see something
       you just can't see. You respond with, 'Don't be silly, I have
       great eyes'. Your acquaintance just smiles and before departing
       says, 'You might want to see an eye specialist about those eyes'
       as he passes you a card. What the heck is he talking about?
       Well, the next day you happen to pass the street that the eye
       specialist is purportedly located. You don't know if this is all
       phooey or real.. but no harm in an eye check up. In fact, you
       have never had one. You turn down the indicated road, find the
       clinic and go in. Seems the doctor has been waiting for you. Now
       that's pretty strange.
       He asks you do sit in his examination chair and after a cursory
       examination, says something, but you can't really understand
       him. It feels little like you are being gases. You feel fine,
       even quite happy, but not very competent at the moment. You
       understand enough to recall the doc said something about
       removing importances for your... well... not really sure from or
       for what, all you got was that it was about removing
       importances. You don't comprehend, but still feel rather happy,
       so what the heck. You loose consciousness and drift off.
       You wake up in the morning and realize you had been dreaming.
       You spend a while in bed trying to recall as much as possible,
       and then you open your bedroom curtains and the view almost
       explodes into your world. You realized that something happened
       last night. You can't pin it down, you're not sure what it was,
       but something big happened. For the first time in your life you
       could really see and you realized that almost everyone around
       you bordered on being legally blind. You could tell from the way
       they responded to the world. They just were not seeing and you,
       for whatever reason, could now see. What you could see would
       sometimes be far away yet seem very close, sometimes you could
       catch glimpses of what appeared to be other worlds, or strange
       foreign people... whatever it was, it was in orders of magnitude
       clearer than before that weird dream.... it was so entertaining
       and strangely ordinary at the same time.
       O.K. Back to me and the forum. That was just what I felt like
       expressing, if it sounds weird, it is. However, those
       importances are you drug. You don't know you are addicted. They
       influence every behaviour and you have no idea, yet, what life
       is like without them. It's better without them, much, much
       better. Nuf said.
       Love ya, Jed.
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       Re: Question
       By: obmcbob Date: August 26, 2019, 5:13 pm
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       Well then maybe I should be looking to get rid of them after
       all...how can I sign up for the nav series?
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       Re: Question
       By: Jed McKenna Date: August 27, 2019, 12:38 am
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       Please write me at navigatorseries@gmail.com and we can discuss
       it further.
       Cheers.
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       Re: Question
       By: obmcbob Date: August 29, 2019, 8:08 am
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       Ok I sent in an email to you.
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       Re: Question
       By: obmcbob Date: September 3, 2019, 6:50 pm
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       I realized (once again) that these things in my head are causing
       me a lot of misery. I don't want to have to go through a full
       spiritual awakening and I wish I just knew how to work on one
       thing, get it done, and progress as I'd like (without losing all
       progress after stopping).
       #Post#: 39190--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Question
       By: Jed McKenna Date: September 4, 2019, 1:16 am
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       Wishes work, probably about 1 percent of the time. You have to
       put in the work, do your time, earn you bona fides. Do you have
       the list of deliverables for the Nav Series? You don't have to
       go all the way, in fact, you have little control over that, but
       you do have significant control over becoming an adult. It's a
       very strange conundrum, a paradox, it is and it isn't at the
       same time. You have some control, you have no control, you exist
       and you don't exist, all is all and all is nothing, you exist
       and don't exist, you let go of everything and find out it's all
       you anyways... a ''person'' can't get enlightened but
       enlightenment does arise and it appears to be in a person... but
       only when the person is not ''there''... and there is no ''out
       there, out there''.
       Your ability to handle much of this world is directly related to
       your capacity to embrace and be o.k. with chaos and paradox.
       When you finally figure things out it's a sad day because you
       can't figure it out. Thinking you ''got it'' means you have
       definitely ''missed it''.
       Best wishes always.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 39191--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Question
       By: obmcbob Date: September 4, 2019, 10:10 am
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       What exactly do you mean by the list of deliverables?
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