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       Re: Fresh meat
   DIR By: Notdan
       Date: November 17, 2014, 12:52 am
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       Reading some of the other posts and noticing the vitriol and
       creative delusions on display I'm somewhat surprised you
       volunteered for another tour of duty in the Ward of Fevered
       Minds. Is this your Korean soap opera Jed? Or are you , 'aw
       shucks Ma'am',a bodhisattva after all?  All joking aside the
       breadth and grace of your responses is impressive.
       'Where am I" has been a fabulous koan and I'm still busily
       pulling threads from it. Kinda low energy today, and not very
       focused. Slept 9 hrs last night and still nodded off doing the
       unfindable objects thing. Think this serious thinking stuff
       draws more energy than expected. Gots to build dat endurance.
       Went for a walk and managed to just be Awareness a few times,
       without a sense of perceiver or perceived. Fascinated by birds
       and actually found myself able to look briefly at a robin and
       later a scrub jay without naming them. They were unusually
       vivid. And when the inevitable thought'That robin is looking for
       bugs under that leaf' appeared it seemed to diminish and haze
       the scene. Back to the pressure cooker tomorrow.
       Loving it,
       Dan
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       Re: Fresh meat
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: November 17, 2014, 1:51 am
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       Dear ND:
       We are all Bodhisattva and have simply been sent here to
       realize it. That's the only real task that every was, screw
       washing the dishes.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 4826--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fresh meat
   DIR By: Notdan
       Date: November 18, 2014, 1:43 pm
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       'Where am I' seems to have run outa gas. I can't seem to prove
       that Awareness isn't associated with the location of the body.
       Tried hard today to induce or accept, project or extend, an out
       of body experience, to no avail. Can't think of anything else
       that would be experiential proof. Without sensory input
       Awareness fills a formless void, but stimuli always seems to
       locate it at the data collection point. Tried all of my
       Skeptical Arguments (present fave is that perception is a mirror
       and Awareness is out there looking this way) and I can show that
       I can't know where it is, but can't show I know where it's not.
       Quite a few threads came loose in 'who am I' and I'll happily
       begin pulling them. But my question is whether I SHOULD table
       'where am I' since I'm stuck, or whether this is the time to
       redouble my efforts.
       #Post#: 4899--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fresh meat
   DIR By: Notdan
       Date: November 19, 2014, 8:04 pm
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       As alluded to on the coming out rant I'm deeply identified with
       being the guy with the answers. In fact my first response to the
       idea of not-knowing was to adopt the posture of my own just
       invented philosophy- Universal Skepticism. But that's more
       claiming-to-know intellectual bullshit. And naturally I fancy
       myself as some kind of writer and even garnered minor local fame
       a few years ago with a few self published chapbooks. But I never
       had the balls to risk the inevitable rejection which getting
       someone else to publish them would have entailed. And then there
       is the 'my daddy didn't love me enough' thing that's always good
       for a little spotlight seeking. When I was in school I was
       designated a genius and combining that with a lisp elicited a
       lot of negative attention. Waaaaah! But it wasn't till I'd been
       out of school for 20 years that I realized what a bully I was
       with my intellectual shaming. I was skinny, slow and clumsy but
       brains was my power. No wonder I got the crap kicked outa me
       regularly. I'm no better(or worse) than the beauty queen or star
       athlete trying to take credit for things that are just luck of
       the draw. Wanting to be special, an ego trait which gives me
       some threads to start pulling to unravel this cluster of crap.
       #Post#: 4914--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fresh meat
   DIR By: Notdan
       Date: November 20, 2014, 7:03 am
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       My is is; Yesterday morning, standing on the mountaintop,
       screaming to the masses that "It's all bullshit. I'm setting my
       piece afire and so should you", I felt strong, powerful,
       energized. Like a warrior. This morning, thinking "I know
       nothing", contemplating the ridiculousness of specialness, I
       feel weak, lethargic, mournful. Like sitting at the bedside of a
       dying friend.
       #Post#: 4919--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fresh meat
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: November 20, 2014, 8:16 am
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       R.I.P.
       #Post#: 4954--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fresh meat
   DIR By: Notdan
       Date: November 21, 2014, 10:57 am
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       What do the twin pillars of ego, separation from Source and
       multiplicity, what does that offer? What could induce me to
       accept this hell of my own making? SPECIALNESS!!! Uniqueness!
       That's the tie that binds me to the ego/body, the mother of all
       attachments. Is that why you call us out over attention seeking
       behavior? Cuz it sure looks to me like desire for specialness is
       the root off all evil.
       Yesterday I kept  trying to find something to pry on or tear
       off, but uniqueness seems so blatantly obvious that it's like a
       marble edifice. Finally I realized that it's impenetrability
       lies in the fact that it is welded directly from I AM/Awareness
       to the twin trunks of ego. To find threads hanging off I have to
       go all the way out to the tips of the branches and work my way
       all the way back. But if I can find the right fuel for the
       cutting torch I can just whack the whole specialness link free
       and leave Awareness unfettered to any ideas or beliefs in
       separation or multiplicity.  I remember you saying (in Warfare?)
       that we can't get rid of ego, just get rid of our identification
       with, our attachment to, ego. Sure looks to me like this is the
       way to do just that. If I just kill my mistaken belief in, and
       desire for, specialness the rest of the crap should be seen for
       the smoke and mirrors it is. May seem like I'm trying to take
       the easy way out , but this doesn't seem like it'll be painless,
       and it certainly appears to be the most direct way.
       #Post#: 4955--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fresh meat
   DIR By: Notdan
       Date: November 21, 2014, 12:45 pm
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       So this will be my practice till it pans out or proves it won't.
       When not actually engaged in my job I will look slowly around
       and say 'I don't know what that is' and try to just let it float
       out there. Everytime someone asks me a question that doesn't
       directly affect the performance of the task at hand I will try
       to remember to say 'I don't know'. To every thought about how
       great I am, or anybody else is I try to remember to respond,
       'nothing is unique, no one is special, it's all equal, and
       equally false'. And I will try really hard to catch myself
       telling people what I think they don't know and showing off my
       'knowledge', and cut it off with 'I am not special, I am equally
       as false as everything else'. And when I have actual free time I
       will get out the notebook and tear as many holes as possible in
       the beliefs in uniqueness and specialness. Seems rather
       acedemic, even to me, but I'm not sure what else to do. Any
       ideas?
       #Post#: 4970--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fresh meat
   DIR By: Notdan
       Date: November 21, 2014, 8:36 pm
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       Well I was wrong! Becoming a pattern. Well, I'm starting to see
       the pattern. Specialness is not the root of fear, it's just
       another response to fear, a justification for fear. All day long
       as I whacked at specialness I kept encountering fear. Just my
       desire to be special, to figure out something new and original
       kept me from realizing it sooner. Fear is that welded link
       between Awareness and ego. You said it, and so have so many
       others. But I was afraid to deal with it. And the only way I can
       get rid of fear is to drag it piece by piece into the light,
       stare it down, and wait for it to crumble. Then dredge out
       another chunk and repeat, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. Yay! This is
       gonna be fun!
       #Post#: 4985--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fresh meat
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: November 22, 2014, 5:59 am
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       It all comes to those who wait, and something is coming.
       Love ya, Jed.
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