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       Re: mattj
   DIR By: mattj
       Date: November 22, 2014, 7:02 am
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       A few things have come into focus based on that last message:
       Yes, it all happens in me (or not me). There is only mind (or
       experience or whatever I want to call it). It changes.  It is
       strange because I can see that space is in mind, but mind
       doesn't hang in some sort of metaspace. The idea of external
       space is just that: an idea. So is the idea of dividing this
       mind into two: me and not me, or outside and inside.
       There is a limit to mind/experience/me. I cannot say what is
       beyond this, or if there is even a beyond. I can easily make
       different stories: there is a vast material world, there is
       nothing, there is the Mind of God, but I can't verify them.
       #Post#: 5064--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: mattj
       Date: November 24, 2014, 1:26 pm
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       I now see there is a lot of wasted time and energy about what
       happens outside the limits of experience. It is ironic because
       what I can know and what I cannot know should seem obvious.
       What I know is what is going on here/now. What is unknown is
       everything else. The only way to know something is to bring it
       within "me". While somewhat liberating, it is also kind of a
       downer; like being in a prison with no walls. However, the
       upshot is I have more time/energy to spend exploring the
       here/now.
       #Post#: 5107--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: November 25, 2014, 5:04 am
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       Dear M:
       What I know is what is going on here/now.
       Do you really, or are you just living in the mental concepts and
       thoughts of what you think is going on here and no? Do you know
       where 'here' is, really? How about when 'now' is?
       I don't have a clue about these two. But I can make up some
       wonderful stories and incorporate here/now, when and where I
       want.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 5596--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: mattj
       Date: December 1, 2014, 12:09 pm
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       Jed,
       I feel that I see where this is all going. But I cannot deny
       THIS. By this, I mean whatever --- looking around, feeling,
       thinking, etc. I can argue about what this means, but I can't
       argue with what is.
       How do you pull the rug out of experience itself? What am I
       clinging to?
       Matt
       #Post#: 5621--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: December 2, 2014, 1:41 am
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       ;)
       #Post#: 6106--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: mattj
       Date: December 10, 2014, 2:41 pm
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       Nothing I say, think, label, or do can make the true false or
       the false true.
       #Post#: 6122--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: December 10, 2014, 9:43 pm
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       Dear Mat:
       Nothing you can say can make anything, periods. Words are
       nothing at all and have no power.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 6255--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: mattj
       Date: December 12, 2014, 10:16 am
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       You're right on the point that it is hard to push "non-belief"
       into the bones. Although I have found it is helpful to watch
       this stuff as it comes up, and really push into it.
       But there's a part of me that doesn't give a $&!% about any
       problems at all. Probably because they aren't really problems,
       they are only problems from a smaller point of view.
       #Post#: 6480--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: mattj
       Date: December 15, 2014, 12:21 pm
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       When I look to things, I see me. When I look to me, I see bright
       nothing. Inside this me-space things form and unform, including
       the "me."
       Last night, when the stress came, I let them come. They are
       either me, or just fleeting energies, so what's the harm? No
       thought, word, or deed will change what they are. And who knows,
       maybe it will be a good thing. Maybe these emotions just need to
       come out, or burn up attachments, or do whatever.
       So I just hosted them. My body felt hot. My stomach twisted and
       burned. Panicky thoughts started to come. So I let them be what
       they were, and remained present.
       And what happened? They hung around for a while and then
       dissolved. No harm to the me-space.
       #Post#: 6485--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: December 15, 2014, 1:53 pm
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       Yes, nothing can harm the 'me-space', as you aptly put it.
       Love ya, Jed.
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