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       #Post#: 4188--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: mattj
       Date: November 6, 2014, 8:18 am
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       The question that is coming lately is this: experience displays
       as a bunch of vibrating sensations. There are colors, sounds,
       and feeling sensations. When I can't sleep, I can see the entire
       field shift from "real world" to "dream world" fairly easily.
       When this happens, the nature of these sensations reveal
       themselves: not as physical objects, but as whirls of mind.
       The tendency is to identify with a few of these sensations--
       those associated with the body and the thinking mind. In this
       case, what I would call the bigger, formless me gets caught up
       with the little me sensations. However, when I relax, I tend to
       expand until it appears that the entire field of sensation is
       within a larger me (just as it is when I dream). It seems that
       separation (what you [Jed] call the root) comes from this
       tendency to identify with some, but not all, of the experience.
       
       #Post#: 4327--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: mattj
       Date: November 9, 2014, 8:12 pm
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       The truth is whatever is arising/passing right now. By
       definition, any resistance to what is arising/passing right now
       is a resistance to, or rejection of, the truth. Which means
       resistance is based on a rejection of the truth. And it is
       pointless: how can I resist what is happening? Resisting what is
       happening won't stop the sensations, but it may make them stay
       longer. Which means resistance makes suffering last longer.
       #Post#: 4335--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: November 9, 2014, 9:52 pm
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       Yes, that's been my experience.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 4421--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: mattj
       Date: November 11, 2014, 9:30 am
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       Thanks, Jed.
       So the bottom line is that it is both impossible and more
       painful to resist what is happening. It is irrational and based
       on ignorance.
       Not only that, but given the constant, fluid nature of
       experience, there is nowhere to stand and make a resistance. It
       is really the ego personality that resists, but this is simply a
       pattern of liquid sensations itself.
       #Post#: 4425--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: November 11, 2014, 10:37 am
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       Very well expressed.
       Love ya,  Jed.
       #Post#: 4642--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: mattj
       Date: November 14, 2014, 11:34 am
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       Expressing is easy enough (assuming taking several hours over a
       period of days is easy)... now to push it down to the
       (non)marrow...
       So one point of resistance is with the ego/personality itself.
       Fighting it, it grows stronger. But letting it blah blah, it
       tends to unspool as is its nature.
       A question: the more letting go, the less I feel the need to do
       anything, including spiritual investigation/practice. I don't
       want to drift back into sleepiness until suffering arises again.
       How do I stay motivated with the lessening of desire? Or does it
       even matter, as whatever unfolds as it does?
       #Post#: 4644--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: November 14, 2014, 12:14 pm
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       You tell me, does it really matter?
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 4748--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: mattj
       Date: November 16, 2014, 8:12 am
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       There is no good answer to that question.  ;D
       #Post#: 4780--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: mattj
       Date: November 17, 2014, 10:45 am
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       Another buried assumption: submitting to the truth means
       trusting in the truth, or some higher power, or something. I
       think, how can I surrender to what is happening, when I might
       get hurt? I don't mind when bliss unfolds and spiritual
       teachings magically appear at the right time, but what about
       cancer striking down my family or getting my face smashed in a
       car accident?
       But the problem is, there is no other game in town. I can only
       resist, I can never escape because there is no where else to go.
       #Post#: 4816--------------------------------------------------
       Re: mattj
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: November 18, 2014, 10:14 am
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       Dear Mattj;
       What if, what it, what if, WTF. I have one for you, what if
       nothing ever happened and all your worry was for naught.
       Wouldn't you feel like a right idiot. You can only escape to
       'you'. No where else to go, in fact, there is no where to go at
       all. Never was. Where you not always exactly where you are right
       now? Contemplate, or wash the dishes.
       Love ya, Jed.
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