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       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: December 19, 2014, 1:36 pm
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       ;D
       #Post#: 6906--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: Matt Ricks
       Date: December 20, 2014, 3:34 am
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       Hi Jed,
       Thanks for your answer!
       You wrote - "Nothing is better than anything else."  - that's
       the hardest for me to accept. When I inquire, layers of beliefs
       are peeled, until it gets to this wall of good/bad/desire. Many
       times it's in the form of "but those sensations are unpleasant".
       Seems like this is the basics.
       Generally, I notice some progress over time towards less
       polarity of good and bad, but it seems quite far from truly
       seeing everything as equal.
       There is always the desire to be in comfort conditions,
       anticipation towards what is labeled as "better experiences".
       Do you have a creative suggestion or a practice how to see that
       clearly?
       
       #Post#: 6911--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: December 20, 2014, 6:13 am
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       Look for who/what is naming something good or bad. Hint: it
       starts with 'I am..'.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 6921--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: know1
       Date: December 20, 2014, 8:05 am
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       Jed's answers (like this one) bugged the hell out of me at first
       but what has become clearer is that even though he could give a
       clearer answer it still couldn't be THE answer, it would just
       approximate the experience of your own answer and would still be
       false.
       It might placate the mind thats asking Jed the question but that
       is exactly the problem, if the mind is placated with a
       falsehood, no matter how succinctly Jed answers your question,
       your desire for truth will wain because the mind is satiated.
       The mind now "thinks" it has truth but the mind can never hold
       truth, period.
       The answers he gives are an invitation to/for your mind to dig
       deeper, to find the "experience" of the answer, to do the math,
       which is your only true answer and the only thing that will
       shift you from a "thinking" paradigm to an "experiencing"
       paradigm.
       #Post#: 6923--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: December 20, 2014, 8:25 am
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       Here's a quote that I have included in the Nav Series from one
       of the great ones:
       ‘The dream is not your problem.
       The problem is you like one part of the dream and not another.’
       Nisargadatta.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 6925--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: know1
       Date: December 20, 2014, 8:28 am
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       Ahhhh.... Mind is now satiated... ;)
       #Post#: 6929--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: December 20, 2014, 8:52 am
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       8)
       #Post#: 6956--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: Matt Ricks
       Date: December 20, 2014, 2:14 pm
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       Nice quote. Thought thinks it is a someone that likes  :)
       #Post#: 7016--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: Catfish
       Date: December 21, 2014, 8:15 am
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       Never had one. Bar being high on extacy or crystal meth (FYI:
       many years ago -occasional recreational only). Oh and ayawashca
       (spell), not really spiritual but different.
       #Post#: 7095--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: Catfish
       Date: December 22, 2014, 7:26 am
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       Actually, the closest I came to a spiritual experience was after
       doing an introductory 'Landmark' weekend around 12 years ago. I
       'got' the no choice, conditioning, rackets and forgiveness. The
       next day or two were wonderful and blissful. I walked down the
       street feeing and seeing joy and wonder and love. Was excited to
       speak to people and wanted to chat and exchange good feelings.
       Was a little (lot?) like smoking crystal meth in retrospect.
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