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       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: SEE
       Date: October 28, 2014, 5:32 pm
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       @ k1
       I'm just too dumb to get what you're on about. The difference
       you're talking about, that is. I don't get how one experience as
       such is different from another one... Please explain.
       I think it takes the knowledge of the Absolute, that personal
       knowledge to get anywhere near enough steam for lift off
       I'm sorry but here my b.s. detector goes off. Personal knowledge
       of the Absolute? I recognize the impossibility of language here
       but whose knowledge of what is that?  ???
       I've never used any uppers, maybe now it's time... maybe then
       I'll know.  ;D
       Feedback more then welcome
       #Post#: 3570--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: Stephan Caspers
       Date: October 28, 2014, 5:54 pm
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       The 'you' clearly got schizophrenia  (;) ;D :o :-\ :-* ???) Not
       one actor pretends the same. The script makes no sense to anyone
       hence believes got born so we can forget the script and just
       play along. Since we are born with a name attached to our
       identity, it shows absolutely no one can tell what the freakin
       hell this illusion is all about other than horsecrap. Whenever I
       dream whether lucid or not I imagine all the characters I see in
       the living dream; friends, family, anyone. Knowing a non-you is
       dreaming a 'you' as for anything which is perfectly created by
       yourself. If you say stuff is right or wrong, the real referee
       is YOU. Why need a referee when even the referee gets
       instructions in their ears?
       Love you,
       Stephan the toothfairy
       #Post#: 3575--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: John Lamont-Black
       Date: October 28, 2014, 7:03 pm
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       Dear Jed,
       I just had one experience, walking in the woods and for no
       reason and without preparation or warning, bam! I was immersed
       in and indistinguishable from by unspeakable sparkling beauty
       for about half an hour. Lovely, amazing and tender but never
       came again and now I can barely recall it.  That was 2006 and
       about the time I started looking into non duality. Thankfully I
       found people who had the wisdom to explain that experiences like
       these are just spiritual 'shiny objects' - states. Not that I
       know it but it was explained that abiding non duality is not, by
       definition, a state: states come and go.
       Best. J.
       #Post#: 3576--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: know1
       Date: October 28, 2014, 7:09 pm
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       @ SEE
       I can only speak from my own H/A experience, it actually matches
       up with some others experience, that's how I know I'm not just
       nuts. Jed discusses this in Damnedest, it's quite fascinating
       and enlightening, it was for me anyway.
       If you haven't had a unity consciousness experience, sorry,
       nothing I can say that will help you understand, it's like
       trying to explain what its like to scuba dive, unless you've
       done it you will never know from someone telling you about it. I
       am talking about this from an H/A perspective, not a T/R
       perspective, hence the need for the "I" to exist. Jed was
       speaking about human spirituality from his experience, I was
       adding my experience, it will resonate with some, like
       Cannonball, not with others.
       k1
       #Post#: 3582--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: October 28, 2014, 11:29 pm
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       Thank you all for sharing your thoughts and putting the effort
       into expressing what is pretty difficult to express, if not
       impossible.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 3594--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: guest101
       Date: October 29, 2014, 1:55 am
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       @Smiling
       I have never had any peak experiences, not even a climax
       Are you sure?   ;D ;D
       #Post#: 3596--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: October 29, 2014, 2:09 am
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       Dear Ferry:
       Are you sure???
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 3597--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: guest101
       Date: October 29, 2014, 2:19 am
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       hahaha yes I am sure I was dreaming them!!
       #Post#: 3614--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: SEE
       Date: October 29, 2014, 7:23 am
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       @ k1
       Fascinating. How do you know an experience matches up other's
       experience?
       Anyway, I haven't ask about the contents of that particular
       experience... The point is how you differenciate one experience
       from another, other then by valuing and prioritizing them.
       That's what I'm interested in.
       @jed
       yeh yeh, I'll shut up now. Enfant terrible.
       #Post#: 3633--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed rant on your spiritual experiences
   DIR By: know1
       Date: October 29, 2014, 11:54 am
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       "Fascinating. How do you know an experience matches up other's
       experience?"
       Because I dreamed it did. period.
       "The point is how you differenciate one experience from another,
       other then by valuing and prioritizing them. That's what I'm
       interested in."
       When I take a bite of a steak and then take a bite of a
       McDonalds hamburger, I experience them differently and
       consequently prioritize them based on my "dream" of them. Same
       way I experience your ego versus another members, each has a
       certain "flavor"...
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