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       #Post#: 37844--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Prometheus
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: April 9, 2019, 2:53 am
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       If you think you are ''living'' then you probably think you will
       die some day. Both quite erroneous. Trying to stop thinking is
       just more thinking.. good luck with that one.
       Your contemplation assignment it so get very curious about what
       you next thought will be, hunt it down relentlessly.
       Feedback always welcome.. now go do it.
       Love ya, Jed
       #Post#: 37856--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Prometheus
   DIR By: anthropisces
       Date: April 9, 2019, 2:39 pm
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       I"ve been down the road of trying to stop thinking after someone
       recommended "The Power of Now" to me six or seven years ago. Its
       like a gym workout. But you are proposing an exercise and ok, I
       accept the assignment. I've been doing it this afternoon and my
       understanding of the assignment is evolving.
       If the assignment is to remain curious about what the next
       thought will be then its an aspect of what I've already learned
       to do, and which has worked out well when I can muster it (when
       thoughts aren't "screwing things up".
       I've realized that waiting curiously for just about anything
       life has to offer is a sound policy for escaping the idea that
       something is wrong. I never thought about doing it with thought
       though.
       I am a bit concerned about all of the forgetting that I seem to
       endure and that I'll simply forget to remain curious about which
       new thought is coming down the pike. Maybe I ought to get
       curious about what I'll forget next and all of it will just
       become part of a strange party.
       Now just one more thing about your reply
       I sort of get it that I"m not alive (sort of as in like my
       understanding of that concept is like Jello and I'm only
       partially set). And it does stand to reason that if I"m not
       alive then I can't very well die.  But what about all of the
       memento mori, death awareness, true za-zan, spending time in
       cemeterys and cocked guns pointed at the head and "I love the
       fact of my own death" stuff?
       #Post#: 37858--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Prometheus
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: April 10, 2019, 12:26 am
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       What about all that stuff... what about any stuff... all stuff
       is doing is occupying one until you discover your true nature.
       Nothing matters, but finding who you are matters more than
       anything else. All you have ever done is to avoid the
       nothingness that you are.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 37862--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Prometheus
   DIR By: anthropisces
       Date: April 10, 2019, 2:39 pm
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       Based on "your contemplation assignment it so get very curious
       about what you next thought will be, hunt it down relentlessly."
       1. I noticed that the thoughts fall into the following
       categories
       A) Loss thoughts-these are about peril that I see myself facing
       B) Thoughts about how others might see my actions
       C) Thoughts about what others are thinking
       D) Thoughts about changing the circumstances of others
       E) Thoughts about changing the circumstances my own life
       F) Thoughts that assign an arbitrary quality to the current
       perception (including current thoughts).
       G) Thoughts about alternatives to perceptions that are assigned
       low quality with the idea that I "should have" done things
       differently
       H) Construction of simplistic models of the future (which
       overlaps A-G)
       2. All of the thoughts seem to be tied to a physical feeling.
       Some of the feelings are subtle. So for example a thought about
       house repair occurred with an associated feeling that generally
       comes with control. It is barely discernible compared to a
       thought that occurred about my ex-wife who has threatened to
       continue suing me for years. The feeling associated with that is
       some amplification of what always accompanies fear of loss.
       3. It does not seem possible to know where the thoughts
       originate. The standard understanding is that "I think of them".
       In this scenario my brain or mind is the origin. But they seem
       to sort of arrive. Which might be an indicator that they arrive
       from an external source. The exercise calls free will into
       question and I have always perceived a sense of calm when
       operating under the idea that there is essentially no free will.
       Over the course of a few hours I felt like I was having a lot of
       fun with the exploration.
       5. I found myself awake in the middle of the night watching the
       cave wall again. I expect that I'll continue an exploration of
       thoughts but an "abiding" understanding of my true nature
       remains as elusive as ever.
       In another thread you said "Extensive spinning of the record
       leaves deep grooves, vestiges of these will always be around...
       just shadows of a former dream."  These are more than vestiges
       for me. Maybe the edges are eroding on the grooves though. I
       know a guy who advocates pushing the boundaries of reality to
       hasten the erosion. He has a specific understanding on the
       nature of reality so that one can be more confident in just
       going for it. I've done that and maybe its done worn the grooves
       down a bit. I still get pretty upset sometimes.
       #Post#: 37868--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Prometheus
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: April 10, 2019, 11:43 pm
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       Sounds like you are doing the work but you are not doing it the
       way I would like you to. The tske is to get seriously curious
       about your next thought, ''what will that be''. You are
       analyzing those thoughts, categorizing them. That's just more
       thinking. I want you to watch your thoughts like a cat watching
       a mouse. Simple, very simple. Do  not get caught up in any
       judgment or analysis, the task is to continually seek to become
       aware of your next thought. If that thought is you need to
       understand the thought, then that is just your next thought, not
       action is to be take, just watch and be curious.
       NO additional action, just watch. I suggest you do thing in
       short burst as it require discipline, try 10 minutes at a time.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 37874--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Prometheus
   DIR By: anthropisces
       Date: April 11, 2019, 10:27 am
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       ok
       #Post#: 37882--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Prometheus
   DIR By: anthropisces
       Date: April 12, 2019, 12:57 pm
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       It is dizzying to watch the thoughts. Physically, I'm in a dizzy
       state anyway with my head pulsating, some left side paralysis
       and an eye that won't blink. Compared to what I'm used to these
       physical things are very different and focusing on thoughts
       coming in really is disquieting.
       As each thought arrives and is observed it seems to burst like a
       balloon. One after another poof, poof, poof. Sometimes the
       succession is rapid and I can barely keep up.
       Since this physical stuff began in January there's been a lot of
       music pouring through my head. Just streams of random music, or
       perception of "mind's ear" sounds (since it isn't really sound)
       that can be a sort of beat or pattern. At times these just roll
       over and over. I can't say  that I haven't experienced it prior
       to January, but it is more prevalent for sure.
       Does that musicy stuff count as a thought? Watching it and then
       having it pop like a balloon only to restart again is dizzying.
       #Post#: 37883--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Prometheus
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: April 12, 2019, 3:43 pm
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       Sure, a musical thought...why not?
       Cheers.
       #Post#: 38233--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Prometheus
   DIR By: anthropisces
       Date: May 28, 2019, 6:47 pm
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       I'm done
       #Post#: 38238--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Prometheus
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: May 29, 2019, 8:47 am
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       Got it... now what's next?  ::) ::) ::) :o 8)
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