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       #Post#: 37507--------------------------------------------------
       Further
       By: guest1765 Date: March 14, 2019, 2:24 pm
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       This past week, in the spaces between posts and emails, some
       little personality facets I never really saw have been mirrored
       back and right now the mind is a tad bit quieter.
       I've been waiting for a real question to arise, the only one so
       far has been to my self:  Is it true I'm stuck?
       It feels like anything I can put into words isn't true but I
       have to start somewhere.
       Judging by the nervousness in my gut and mind as I begin with
       this little post it seems like I'm crawling forward just a
       little tiny fraction of an inch.
       I can't even know if I will go any further.
       #Post#: 37516--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Further
       By: Jed McKenna Date: March 15, 2019, 5:53 am
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       Hi there:
       You can't even know if you will go any further. Understandable.
       Maybe inquire where you would go to.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 37520--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Further
       By: guest1765 Date: March 15, 2019, 7:16 am
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       Hi Jed,
       (There was some blah, blah, blah that I deleted.)
       Where is there to go to?
       It's something about the funny pointlessness of moving around in
       space or time whether it be internally or externally.  Something
       like just moving around in a dream.  All the distractions are to
       avoid something that  teases the edges of my thinking mind.
       It's like having amnesia.  It's there, can't grasp it.  Right
       now it's laughing. Me is scratching her head, not laughing.
       later:  where am I?
       it's been feeling a little like being in the cookie bakers
       kitchen
       later again:  I can't think of a single reason not to go
       further.
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       Re: Further
       By: Jed McKenna Date: March 15, 2019, 10:16 pm
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       Neither can I.
       Love ya, Jed.
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       Re: Further
       By: guest1765 Date: March 16, 2019, 3:46 pm
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       I did a little reverse engineering as I walked along the beach
       and pretended there was no I:
       "There is a form that has been called a body or person moving
       with another small and furry form attached to what's called a
       hand by what's called a leash.  There is a surface under the
       feet, not hard, not soft.  To one side there is something making
       sound and movement that is called water and something here knows
       it has a certain sensation called wet.  There are other forms
       moving along, some smaller and more energetic and making sounds
       that could be called excitement or fun.  There isn't a sense of
       danger or threat coming from the space or the other forms moving
       in it.  There is some commentary going on which seems to be
       coming from, and listened to, by this body/person moving along."
       After awhile something is sensed.  A thought comes that
       interprets it as something sensed before.  A place and time is
       attached to it.  Then a another time and place when the same
       sensation was realized to not be a memory but just what is,
       without time or place.  It is exquisite, gone as soon as it is
       grasped at, but beckons one to find it, to go further, to wrap
       oneself in it and just live there.
       No so much later:  Was that just Maya's siren song?  Or is Maya
       the questioning?
       I appreciate your guidance so much Jed.
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       Re: Further
       By: Jed McKenna Date: March 17, 2019, 2:11 am
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       Time and space gone as soon as grasped at because they never
       were.
       Love ya, Jed.
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       Re: Further
       By: guest1765 Date: March 17, 2019, 9:32 am
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       A little confused today and frustrated with crashing back into
       my mundane me.  But there was a fleeting moment of experiencing
       this mundane state as actually being the altered state, like it
       was unreal, fake but not fake at the same time.
       
       I also had this sense that I was being pulled back by the herd,
       the collective, and not just by my own personal garbage.
       Ironic because I've spent a lot of time and energy this whole
       life trying to fit into the herd.  Now that I want out.....
       Then I was in the past some of the day; in this nostalgic weird
       state I don't like to get pulled into.  Looking longingly at
       certain times in the past and also at the times I've just blown
       up my life over and over.  Was it all destined or just me making
       the same mistakes repeatedly?  As in being insane.
       I look back because to go forward is death. Both kinds.  I would
       rather "die before I die" though, I know that.  Otherwise I will
       have regrets.
       I'm trying to pay better attention:  to silence,  to where
       thought causes separation, and to space between thought.
       Things feel a little strange but ok.
       Thanks Jed.
       p. s.  Jed, I think you are sort of like a koan.
       #Post#: 37541--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Further
       By: Jed McKenna Date: March 18, 2019, 4:13 am
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       Speaking of Koans (or mantras) here is one for you. Ask yourself
       ''What arises after this question?'' Then watch, and ask again
       and again. The minute a thought arises, go back to your
       question. It's a little strange but you'll get the hang of it.
       You are to be intensely aware of what is there just after the
       question. Go for it and report back.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 37546--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Further
       By: guest1765 Date: March 18, 2019, 10:18 pm
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       Well,
       Like a living dissection of the mind.
       At first there is a blank in the foreground and a commentary
       about it in the background starts rising up like a loop or a
       ticker tape---where does that come from?  How many of "us" are
       in here?  The thoughts aren't mine. Just like an annoying tv in
       the background.  "me" is just this thought stream.  So who is
       asking the question?
       There is a "blank", a dark space which becomes an intensely dark
       spot hovering in front of the arising thoughts.  Thought/feeling
       like it is there, it will consume me--"now the cat is out of the
       bag".   I have a memory of reading Paul Brunton's account of
       spending the night in the Great Pyramid and disappearing into a
       tiny black hole.  It sounded creepy, not sure about this.
       When I open my eyes:
       It's here, outside of my mind, seeing it with my 'mind's eye',
       it becomes like a little slit or tear, like in a fabric, I can
       look through,  there is another layer under all of this.. It's
       there for a while.  I go outside take a walk, look at flowers,
       this feels very good.
       I feel like I would like to stay home all day and play with this
       more, but have to go out for some hours.
       Later in the day more time with it just seems exhausting.
       Is the tiny black hole/slit thing my overactive imagination?
       Should I keep doing this?
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       Re: Further
       By: Jed McKenna Date: March 18, 2019, 10:55 pm
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       It's all you imagination until it isn't... and you will know
       when it isn't.
       Just be with what is as best you can, and remember to breath.
       Love ya, Jed
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