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Re: Jed rant on the Guru for You and H/A
DIR By: know1
Date: October 30, 2014, 10:19 pm
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Lets see, Mork's chewed up 4 responses from Jed that could have
gone to other members... Who's getting distracted Jed? ;D
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Re: Jed rant on the Guru for You and H/A
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: October 30, 2014, 10:20 pm
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Less than 250 words.
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Jed rant on the Guru for You and H/A
DIR By: know1
Date: October 30, 2014, 10:24 pm
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Ha, got me, crisper, more pithy... I think Mork is the Jester on
your Tarot card Jed...
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Re: Jed rant on the Guru for You and H/A
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: October 31, 2014, 4:05 am
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My leg always remains available for pulling.
Love ya, Jed.
#Post#: 3801--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed rant on the Guru for You and H/A
DIR By: Jesse
Date: October 31, 2014, 7:52 am
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Hi fellas. Sorry for all the commotion.
I thought that since it directly pertained to the subject at
hand and was in fact straight out of one of the McKenna books,
it would be okay to post.
Won't happen again.
#Post#: 3806--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed rant on the Guru for You and H/A
DIR By: know1
Date: October 31, 2014, 12:37 pm
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Hi, just a thought (Really? haven't you had enough of those
today?) Jed wrote about unhappiness and depression in Damnedest:
"Depression is fear with hope removed, it arises as we discover
that something we thought could be ours will never be ours.
Unhappiness is when we worry about not having something.
Depression is when we realize we will never have it and freedom
is when we realize that nothing is ours and nothing can be ours,
so that in effect nothing isn’t ours… Anyone who seems about to
succumb to morbid despair is actually experiencing the onset of
human adulthood, the precursor to enlightenment, a
prerequisite."
JM
I love this explanation, it seems a lot of people are struggling
with depression around these parts so I thought I'd throw this
up as a reminder... Also, is it possible that depression could
also arise as the I Am's response to the mind's refusal to let
go the tiller?
#Post#: 3827--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed rant on the Guru for You and H/A
DIR By: Notdan
Date: October 31, 2014, 7:52 pm
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Jed said;
You are the final authority on this, you and only you. What do
you want? If I said 'Here is T/R but you will be miserable for
the rest of your life', would you take it? I'm not so sure you
would. That means that you have placed happiness higher that
T/R. Once again, nothing wrong with that, but T/R requires
fierce honesty.'
Now I'm guessing that the question spoke primarily to our
dedication to the cause( or lack thereof) and to our primary
search for happiness. But it seems a moot point as a direct
question since to be T/R would be to have transcended the ego,
right? And only the ego can experience misery , right? What am I
missing here?
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Re: Jed rant on the Guru for You and H/A
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: November 1, 2014, 1:47 am
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Dear Members:
I let the last forum run for a number of years and only chucked
a couple of shills off it during that time. They were incredibly
disruptive and members where pleased to see them go. To say they
were a distraction and a waste of time is an understatement.
However, it was an experiment and I told members that. It led me
to create this forum. I learned a good deal and can now smell
the shills a long way off. I have already removed one member
from here because of it.
The purpose of opening up the Rant threads is to offer a place
to share your experiences, and for that matter also your
arguments etc. WITH ME, but only as it relates to that specific
topic. If you don't think Buddha existed, or don't like what I
say, feel free to express it BUT, only in the context that you
and I are the ones talking. I don't mind that at all as along as
it relates to the thread and your experiences.
Forums are like gardens. They require continuous weeding or
they, sometimes at an alarming speed, degenerate into 'he said,
she said' child's play. You can find this strange mechanism just
about anywhere that a forum opens up and it's unmoderated. Of
course, the more contested the subject the quicker the
degrading.
We are playing a game here. Even though some of you may not
think so. All games have three things, boundaries, rules and a
goal. The boundaries are the context, i.e., the forum. The goal
is T/R or whatever you wish to call it, but please stick with
T/R for consistency. Then there are the rules:
1.) No posting of more that 250 words, less is always better. It
makes you think hard about what you are saying. I prefer that.
2.) No comments about other's posts. You are not posting your
experiences to get attention, acceptance or a declaration of
'done', etc. You and I are in a conversation. I am only
interested in your experiences, preferably in the more or less
present as that's where the greatest value is to be found.
3.) No cross-talk. Such things as telling another members that
you had a similar experience, that they should write or post a
certain way, or that they need to do 'X'. Mind your own store,
no one else's.
4.) No extraneous content, links, photos, etc. Smileys only if
you wish. ;D
5.) NEW RULE... one that I can't enforce, but I ask that you be
in a sober state when writing here. Other than perhaps, a
caffeine buzz, please don't write stoned... you know who I
mean...
Some of you would like a more open thread so that you can
communicate with each other. There are hundreds of thousands of
venues available for all the babble you wish to engage in. The
internet age has opened up some amazing doors, but for all it's
opportunities I don't know that communication quality has gone
up. My take is that it has gone down. More mindless babble-crap
doesn't mean high quality communications are taking place. In
fact, it feeds Maya very well... plays right into here hands. It
takes people away from where they are and who/what is in front
of them right now.
So the tone of this forum is it's being run by me, you might see
me as a benevolent dictator.. yeh, I like one... and the sole
purpose is a conversation between you and I. You are not here
for attention or approval, even mine, you and I are here in
order to hold hands while you jump from the burning building.
The discipline I espouse is counter to what some of you might
want, but T/R is highly unlikely to show up in your world if you
don't exhibit some discipline.
If you don't understand any rule, please ask me about it. If you
don't think you can follow them, then either suck it up and make
yourself follow them or perhaps leave.
Love ya, Jed.
P.S. For the most part, members are doing a truly wonderful job
of sticking to the program.
#Post#: 3866--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed rant on the Guru for You and H/A
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: November 1, 2014, 3:27 am
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Thank you Gromer.
Lovey ya, Jed.
#Post#: 3883--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed rant on the Guru for You and H/A
DIR By: Notdan
Date: November 1, 2014, 7:38 am
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About the cross talk rule- The combination of yours AND Mork's
response to my question about scientific 'truths' really rocked
my ego foundations. As I stated, your answer was like a gut
punch, and I started counterpunching furiously. But his response
made me realize the toy I was defending was not only cheap
plastic crap, it was BROKEN! Pondering the implications of BOTH
your answers led to a sleepless night, an experience(fleeting
and tenuous though it was) of the amorphous and illusory nature
of the universe, and an extreme reordering of the basis upon
which I accept something as true. I thank you BOTH!
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