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       torture
   DIR By: guest1766
       Date: February 8, 2019, 9:28 pm
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       Dear Jed,
       if I was to be tortured, inflicting 'personal' pain upon me
       probably wouldn't work. You'd have to create a world where
       animals and kids and innocent people who clearly aren't ready
       yet for truth and to grasp the impersonal nature of
       consciousness are tortured and thereby broken, not awoken. You'd
       have to create a cruel world like ours, this gigantic satanic
       altar, this deepest betrayal of oneness. I know in truth none of
       this exists or happens. Yet, I feel like a father helplessly
       witnessing his children being raped and crippled and murdered by
       the thousands every second, and it makes me despise the whole
       play of consciousness. The ecstasy of life has turned into a
       deep disgust, I haven't left the house for years. I know you say
       you don't do heart. But this father-thing comes naturally once
       everything has revealed itself as one and nothing. So how do you
       deal with it?
       #Post#: 37317--------------------------------------------------
       Re: torture
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: February 10, 2019, 1:32 am
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       Hi there:
       Thank you for your post and expression of concern for other's
       well being. There are many ''stages'' (for lack of a better
       word) to this seeking thingy. I too have felt similar to you but
       that was in the long-ago. There is a level of experience where
       one realizes that all of ''this'' is just an arising and as such
       is no more real than a character in a dream. Being caught up in
       concern for others is fine when that person is in front of you
       and has a need... one assists as best you can. Pick up a
       newspaper or watch CNN and believe the disasters presented there
       are real is nothing short of insanity. Your fretting has NEVER
       EVER made any difference to anyone... however, it has helped you
       avoid the personal pain that resides in you. Everything you are
       doing is to avoid the nothing that you are, but it's a very
       special kind of nothing. Unimaginable.
       You are not feeling any pain for other's suffering. You have no
       idea what they are going through. Find out what is true for you,
       who you really are and then you will have the peace you seek...
       and so will others. You will never know until you do it.
       Love ya, Jed.
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