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       Re: Sandra Anne's New Book (currently untitled)
       By: Sandraanne Date: January 22, 2019, 3:34 am
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       @ Rambler_Dick. Wow, thanks for you comment.  You've no idea how
       much that made me laugh. So cool!  One line, one moment, makes
       my day because when I see you, hear you, read you, I see the
       entire world. And it just explodes into utter perfection.  And
       you are perfection, everything is perfection.
       Thank you, Sandra Anne
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       Re: Sandra Anne's New Book (currently untitled)
       By: Sandraanne Date: January 22, 2019, 5:37 pm
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       Dear Readers,
       Not too many comments here, well that's easy, and I
       don't like anything better than "easy."  It seems I don't have
       that much time to just mess around after all but let me know if
       we're going too fast otherwise, here's Chapter Four.
       Chapter Four
       It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that no one you know
       including yourself is living in a way that is actually worth
       living.  Anyone with even a little insight can see that
       something is amiss with how the human race sees things.  "What
       the f*** is going on?" , is a question that everyone should be
       asking themselves but almost no one does.  Even the fact that
       almost no one is asking themselves this question on a daily
       basis is like a glaring red flag, a clue that all the things
       that everyone's ever told you about life can't possibly be true,
       that this can't be it.  I mean how many people actually believe
       that the purpose of life is to see how many hours you can work
       at a job you hate to see how much money you can make and how
       many things you can buy with it before you die?  Apparently,
       almost everyone, isn't that what everyone you know is telling
       their children about why they need to go to school so they can
       get a good job that pays good money so they can live the good
       life?
       Neither is it about "the job", you may even like your job,
       that's not it, it's about the fact that everyone seems to think
       that "working" is somehow your purpose for being here, and
       through this "working and toiling", eventually depending on how
       hard you work at it, you get to "be somebody" as if you weren't
       someone already.  Your not anybody, and that's the big looming
       fear underneath it all, that fear is the driver of it.
       Meanwhile the children watch their parents go to work everyday
       and come home utterly exhausted and used up, stressed out, and
       most of the children are like "screw that" if that's the "good
       life" I don't want it, which is why the parents and the schools
       have to increasingly either entice them with rewards or threaten
       them with punishments to get them to comply with the fiasco.  If
       that doesn't work, there are doctors now who will diagnose these
       unruly little children with made up diseases like "oppositional
       disorder" and "attention deficit" and put them on drugs to quiet
       them down.  There's nothing wrong with the attention of the
       children, it isn't in a deficit at all, the only thing happening
       here is that the "attention" of some of the more hardier
       children just isn't going in the mad direction of everyone else.
       The child's "attention" is actually "consciousness" and it's
       saying "No, not this way.  I will fight you. I will fight for my
       life."  Unlike the adults in their lives the children still have
       a sense of what they were made of and for and when they look
       around at all these serious and somber people, they know "this
       isn't it."  Children come into this dream world full of the
       truth, and little by little it gets sucked out of them by the
       ignorant fearful adults who model this ridiculous unreality that
       everyone seems to go along with.  Maybe, that child who is
       throwing the biggest tantrum ever because his adult says he
       can't have that thing he wants is trying to say "No, your wrong,
       of course I can have it, I can have anything I say I can have
       because none of this is really here and I get to make it up as I
       go along."
       And maybe that screaming says, "Leave me alone, get your hands
       off me you lunatic!  What the is wrong with you?  Don't you know
       how this works? "
       The child's "I" is still pure so it's a lot more playful than
       yours is.   I don't know if you've noticed but children like to
       have a good time, they aren't worried about what they need to do
       or what time it is.  They don't worry  about tomorrow or how
       much money is in the bank.  They don't even worry about whether
       or not someone else likes what they do.  If someone gives them a
       toy, they don't wonder whether or not they deserve it.  They are
       literally just playing.  So are you, except that you "think"
       that you're not.  Trust me your life is playing itself.
       But what can you do?  Well, you can just go along with it all
       and you'll have plenty of company if you do, misery likes
       company don't you know, or you can figure out what you actually
       are and maybe enjoy your life before you die.  Either way, you
       die, so it doesn't really matter, you were never here to begin
       with anyway, but something is having an experience and maybe you
       want to know what that "something" is before it isn't here
       anymore like it is now.  If you do, you will have to stop
       believing not just "some" of what you have been taught since you
       started breathing in and out but all of it.
       You are not a "person."  The whole "person" thing was lie number
       one.  You can't blame anyone for teaching you this lie because
       everyone believes it so they don't even know that they were
       teaching it to you.  It has just been the underlying
       "assumption" for so long that it is NEVER QUESTIONED by anyone.
       This is the mother of all assumptions that trumps all the other
       ones.
       This is the underlying belief that shapes your entire
       experience.
       So let's just for a moment, suspend the belief that you are
       person. Ok, now you are no longer a person, so if you are not a
       person, what if anything could you actually be doing?  What
       actions could you be taking, right now, if you are not a person?
       What if anything could you be "responsible" for if you are not
       this separate entity called a "person"?  Remember, if you are
       not a 'person" than no one else can be one either.  This isn't
       about you, it's about figuring out what this whole thing called
       life is so what's true for you has to be true for everything or
       it isn't true at all.
       There does appear to be an experience happening, every moment a
       different experience appears to be happening.  Now remember, you
       are not a "person" having an experience because there's no
       person, there's just an experience being experienced but by
       what?  The person experiences everything as if it is happening
       to them but if there is no person then there's no one for it to
       happen to so maybe it isn't really happening at all.  How can
       you know for sure if it is?  On what criteria do we base our
       "assumption" that something is happening?  Don't we first have
       to assume that we are a separate entity that things could occur
       to?  How do you really know that you are anything?  We once
       again "assume" we are here on this thing we call earth which we
       also "assume" is here where things are happening.  Just because
       everyone we know is on board with "assuming" the same thing does
       not make it true.  So what is really happening?  Have you ever
       just noticed that  ANYTHING you thought has happened is just a
       "memory" in your head?  And there are some things you think
       happened that you can't remember so did they really happen?
       When I'm driving to work at night I see myself driving home in
       the opposite direction and before I know it I am.  It's true I
       now have a "memory" of having gone to work but  that doesn't
       prove that it actually happened,  We say "I" am doing this thing
       or that thing but what is this "I"?  Isn't this "I" just a
       thought  and a memory and nothing more?  Ever look back at the
       last two years and wonder where the time went?  How much time do
       you think you really have?  You make plans to go on vacation and
       pretty soon it's come and gone, and you are back at your job
       waiting for the next one.  The whole thing is just a memory now.
       Maybe it was always a memory, just some made up fantasy all in
       your mind and playing out on a screen you have mistaken for
       "your life."  Maybe, there is no you in it at all.  Maybe,
       you've never made a move in your life and every move you thought
       you made, every decision to do this thing instead of that thing,
       every idea you ever had, wasn't yours at all.  Maybe, all the
       thoughts in your head that you think are "yours" aren't yours.
       What then?  What could you blame yourself for or congratulate
       yourself for then?  Remember if this is true for you it's true
       for everyone else as well, so how could you blame anyone for
       anything ever again?   Who is even there if you aren't here?
       Well, if that doesn't get you thinking I don't know what will.
       Of course, you are not really here to do any thinking but the
       part of you which "thinks" it can think might have some very
       different thoughts, if you let it, which you probably won't
       because nobody does, not because "you" don't want to but because
       the "you" that you think you are has some pretty thick walls
       (walls masquerading as strong negative emotions and very
       important activities you absolutely must attend to right now)
       surrounding it to keep any really intelligent thoughts, thoughts
       that might expose it, from seeping in.
       Or maybe I'm just full of sh** but if I am then so is everyone
       else, including you.
       #Post#: 37117--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sandra Anne's New Book (currently untitled)
       By: Jed McKenna Date: January 23, 2019, 12:30 am
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       Thanks again for your contribution Sandra.
       Cheers.
       #Post#: 37118--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sandra Anne's New Book (currently untitled)
       By: breakup Date: January 23, 2019, 5:11 am
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       Children and parents. I remember my dad saying that when me and
       my brother peed our pants as little kids he would take us
       outside and hose us off, he'd boast that we never did it again.
       Good parenting lol, really running the show. I later went on to
       wet the bed. Nowadays if I talk to him on the phone he's happy
       to hear from me and then somehow the conversation always gets to
       the topic of work and I tell him things are gonig good, he
       subtly gets on the poison "ah well you can always get a better
       job if you want to...." or maybe "you got a girlfriend yet?."
       I'm learning these patterns in my own thoughts, instead of
       worrying about this and that its nothing, maybe "hi dad"
       At work its serious business. Just kidding, there's actually
       times where i sit down at a computer and recognize that i'm
       playing worker and have giggle or two stapling papers that
       probably have no business being stapled. No matter how
       overwhelming the workload is i treat it all the same... meh. it
       gets done or it doesn't, and if you think that's worth worrying
       about god help you. an old guy brought me a box with a problem
       last night and he looked like he was about to cry about it. I do
       my best to accept the "problems" in good spirits if someone
       could use a bit of levity.
       I was reading your post and
       "so if you are not a person, what if anything could you actually
       be doing?"
       I have this epiphany of what all this writing about not self but
       STUFF is about. The stuff is still all the self, no
       disconnection, just endless endless stuff.
       I've been thinking how its a miracle you end up in a 'maze' at
       all, but then maybe not, as if there's you and a maze to begin
       with. It seems that to undo something is not "it was this and
       then it was that" but instead "that never happened at all, and
       nothing was undone nor was there anything to undo" So nothing
       undone lol i better stop and post
       #Post#: 37119--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sandra Anne's New Book (currently untitled)
       By: Jed McKenna Date: January 23, 2019, 5:26 am
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       You are the maze, I love it.
       Cheers.
       #Post#: 37120--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sandra Anne's New Book (currently untitled)
       By: guest1170 Date: January 23, 2019, 6:40 am
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       Truly an insane world indeed Sandra, full of scammers, conmen,
       immature parentes and more blah blah blah. Nothing wrong with
       immaturity of course, but It makes me just slightly mad that
       everyone seems proud and happy with their state of deep
       ignorance. This whole play of Maya Isnt even that
       entertaining... Its just dumb
       No one wants the Truth, people just make up bulls.hit for
       purposes of self convenience and addiction to stories... Ramana
       called this whole manifestation of bulls.hit "Krama Srisht"
       #Post#: 37121--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sandra Anne's New Book (currently untitled)
       By: dunkdivee Date: January 23, 2019, 7:52 am
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       Who cares what Ramana calls it?
       Why do you care how other people live their lives?
       Generalising the 'play of Maya' to it not being very
       entertaining seems egotistical to me.
       What do you know of other people's lives..
       My life is kinda sh1t right now, but that's just my life.
       Lots of other people seem to be having a pretty good time.
       I'm curious about your experience with some of the toxic people
       in the world.
       I haven't lived a very eventful life so far, which might play
       into this, but I find them to be pretty easy to avoid.
       But how has that been for you? Of course in childhood you have
       to deal with the hand you're dealt, but after that it's up to
       you who you interact with for the most part in my experience.
       #Post#: 37122--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sandra Anne's New Book (currently untitled)
       By: Prashant Date: January 23, 2019, 9:29 am
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       It looks all messed up, but on closer look all is Love in
       action..
       Just that  Love is confused and ignorant to limit itself to a
       particular body, family, one's idea, country, religion and blah
       blah...
       Best wishes,
       P...
       #Post#: 37123--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sandra Anne's New Book (currently untitled)
       By: guest1170 Date: January 23, 2019, 9:36 am
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       I do not judge or care in any way... I am the changelesness
       observer of phenomena... Also, I do not have a "childhood"
       because I am timeless. I do not "think" people are insane, thats
       just what I see through the natural power of my True Nature...
       Its nothing personal, really
       Do I lick the balls of Ramana? No, I just find my experiences
       similar to his, and I like quoting him... So what?
       Yes, "I" am fully "self realized" or whatever you wanna call
       It...So why do I care about posting here then? Its just what I
       am doing in the moment
       I do not want confirmation or validation from anyone, because no
       power in the world can change this realization... Wether Jed or
       former president Bush confirms my awakening or not, It doesnt
       change anything... Got It?
       I really have no Idea why everyone is getting mad with my
       posts... Perharps you think I am "Escapist"... But hes just a
       dream character really, and his merit and "karma" dont affect
       me... Just see what is
       #Post#: 37124--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sandra Anne's New Book (currently untitled)
       By: guest1170 Date: January 23, 2019, 10:20 am
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       For me theres no time, space, self, past, presente and future...
       So its everything "out of context" I think and my posts are
       "weird" I think... Whatever. Another big myth of "enlightenment"
       is that people will start worshipping you and bringing you
       gifts, etc... Big NO... Its more likely they will put you in the
       loony bin against your will If you speak too much
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