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Grief - do those that are ‘enlightened’ experience grief in the
usual manner?
By: russelj6 Date: January 4, 2019, 12:17 pm
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My sons friend passed tragically last week. I have taken it bad.
My question is, do those that claim enlightenment or whatever
the current phrase is experience grief and empathy?
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Re: Grief - do those that are ‘enlightened’ experience grief in
the usual manner?
By: Jed McKenna Date: January 5, 2019, 1:15 am
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Sorry to hear of the loss of that youngster. Those who ''claim''
enlightenment might experience grief, but for one that is
actually T/R there is the experience as well, but I would
estimate at something like 90% reduced. I use myself as a test
subject. About a year ago my best friend here sat down across
from me in a bar and died instantly of a heart attack. He was 47
years old. I did experience a little grief, but it was like a
passing cloud in the sky. It totalled probably 15 minutes and
was gone, follow by gratitude for the amazing experience of
dealing with the Cambodian police, the hospital that refused to
take money for their attempts to revive him, the temple and it's
keepers, and perhaps the most gratitude around the fact that he
died quickly and painlessly. I know it sounds strange but it was
one of the most wonderful experiences I have ever had.
I trust that gives you a little background on your question.
Also, the more you try to suppress your grief the bigger it will
get.
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Grief - do those that are ‘enlightened’ experience grief in
the usual manner?
By: russelj6 Date: January 5, 2019, 8:51 am
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Thank you for your reply.
May I ask why you describe it as one of the most wonderful
experiences that you have had?
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Re: Grief - do those that are ‘enlightened’ experience grief in
the usual manner?
By: Jed McKenna Date: January 5, 2019, 10:26 pm
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Why is a rather foolish question because there is never an
answer to it. How is certainly better as it might yield
information as to how one could create or discreate a similar
event. The reason is that there is no reason, but I will make
one up as all reason are made up. When he was gone he was gone.
I attach very little importance to death as I realize that it is
just another experience. The more wondrous part was how those
around me behaved. I cling to very little, very very little, and
clinging another, especially after they have dropped their body
and moved on, seems to me like a silly waste of energy. Find out
first if you are really alive and death will lose it's sting.
There is a great opportunity hear for you.
Love ya, Jed
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Re: Grief - do those that are ‘enlightened’ experience grief in
the usual manner?
By: russelj6 Date: January 24, 2019, 5:37 pm
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Ok....
How then?
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Re: Grief - do those that are ‘enlightened’ experience grief in
the usual manner?
By: Jed McKenna Date: January 25, 2019, 12:51 am
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Ah, now that's a better questions. The answer is ''I don't have
a clue''.
The past is not something I rationalize or explain easily. It
just was what was.
Love ya, Jed.
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