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Re: I get it, but I really don't!
DIR By: guest1728
Date: December 31, 2018, 8:19 am
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No, I, as in the thinking so called me, well I feel it is
extremely doubtful that I am aware of anything. This thinker,
thought that I was aware, but how can a thought structure,
inclusive of memory, knowledge/belief, etc, be aware to begin
with. A string of thoughts being aware, WHAT!!! There is
awareness of these strings of thoughts, of this picture that is
inclusive of the so called me, be it body/mind etc. Yet, I need
to go real slow though, as its challenging whatever I am, in
every godam way. SO yeah, No me required. Aware awareing.
What would you know without awareness... or, perhaps more
important, what do you know with awareness?
Quite the questions. The me, an image in a picture, seems to
require awareness in the first place. I don't know if I
understand it very well though. Its not as if I can identify
what I am, with awareness itself, but maybe that is because it
is a formless type quality, and if I am that awareness, be it
formless, a sense of nothingness, well maybe its absurd
identifying yourself, with what you truly are to begin with.
Usually one is identified with the body, the mind, thus a
duality, but I feel there really is only experiencing the
perception or the awareness of this so called body, the so
called sensations, and never directly. I think I need to just
ponder, rather than push it to much. As far as what I feel I
know with awareness, well ir seems pivotal in knowing anything,
albeit seeing it as fiction. Wooops, Word Count. Soz
Roger
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Re: I get it, but I really don't!
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: December 31, 2018, 11:49 am
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Yup, just ponder Woger, just ponder....
Love ya, Jed
#Post#: 37035--------------------------------------------------
Re: I get it, but I really don't!
DIR By: guest1728
Date: January 13, 2019, 7:33 am
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So where was I, yes, trying to determine whether what is
perceived, is representational of what might be out there. Well
so far, I have determined, that I have never experienced
anything directly, that its all a brain creation, seen, and
experienced, perhaps, in the mind. or somewhere, and even
though it looks like it all belongs out there, yet looks can be
deceiving/revealing. Its not as if the light wavelengths hit oll
roger's alleged eyes, and quickly going back to that table, and
stopping there, so ol roger can see the table, in its actual
position. NOPE, the picture, a brain creation, of an alleged
brain, is creating a world inclusive of me thinking the table,
really is out there, Hang on, re - abit to the left, actually
bring it forward about a foot, and yep, thats about right, just
there fellas. Sorry, I just imagined removilists, as well as
making light of a so called illusive situation, inclusive of an
illusive me/body and all hence nuclear, but kind of cool. SO
yeah, all a brain creation, abiding by laws. ITs not as if I
want to test such laws, to determine the truth of such matters.
Like, I know full well in a dream, at night, that I have woken
up, bent over in pain, remembering that I just fell of the top
story of some building, and really really felt pain. I dare say,
its this junction, of trying to determine such things as this,
that maya can jump up, and be about fear, and control, where one
foolishly concludes, well if I stick my head in the microwave,
and don't get fried, then its all a dream. Nppe. that would be
fear and control, as well as a bloody bad migraine as well, or
worse. It might all be a dream, in the context Roger is
implying, but a very consistent and experienced dream. So as far
as truth goes, testing things, in such a vain, won't answer
whether its all a dream or not. Im more cool with knowing, or
believing I know perhaps, that the color green, the shape of
that green coloured chair, aint entering Rogers eyes, nor are
sounds originating out there, and this is not only science, but
experienced as so, baring in mind, Sience won't go into the
logic, or truth, of where the hell is this world percieved,
which is undeniably, in me. The dream appears to consist of me
in the dream, occurring in somethingness that Im not seperate
from. I have to go slow, as I don't want to miss any fun stuff.
lols. Im also feeling pretty good, and may be taking this
lightly, but it is what it is, kind of a thing.
Hi Jed btw, cheers.
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Re: I get it, but I really don't!
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: January 13, 2019, 10:49 am
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Two points..keep it shorter... and there is no out there out
there.
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: I get it, but I really don't!
DIR By: guest1728
Date: January 15, 2019, 5:06 am
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Soz mate about the length, and as far as outside not being
outside, Well I have determined that the inner, the outer,
whatever is experienced, is only ever going to be the experience
or awareness of the awareness of what is perceived, thus brain
creations. So on that basis, I think I see what you may mean.
Awareness doesn't feel part of it all though. Like an in and an
out, Out not being out, as in the outside, but outside of every
context perceivable. Don't know if that makes sense, and I'm
traveling slowly, as having your so called real and experienced
world, blow up into a thing one ultimately cannot know for sure,
experience directly, is abit of a shock. I am not at the stage
that feeling that the whole universe doesn't really exist,
purely because I can never ever ever experience it directly. I
can get the thing where you said, that there is only you, but
that doesn't necessarily imply that others do not exist, the you
that is you, might be the one consciousness all YOU"S hence
there is only you, but there seems further, and Im taking my
time. Thanks for the heads up, but one of the biggest things I
got from you is think for yourself, a thing, Im sure you still
agree with. tHAT SAID, what is perceived is neither mine, or
yours, hence A big thank you, as a penny just dropped. The dream
of maya, includes division, identity, but its bullshit, so
grateful for all that presents. Got to love that word.
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