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       Dunkdivee
   DIR By: dunkdivee
       Date: November 2, 2018, 5:49 am
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       I'm in the dark night of the soul, except it's lasting a lot
       longer than just one night.
       I get that the only way to go through this is to truly give up.
       Too bad its not something I can do, it's something that has to
       happen.
       Feeling incredibly powerless, probably because I am but it's a
       terrible feeling at the moment.
       #Post#: 36194--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dunkdivee
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: November 3, 2018, 1:31 am
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       Hi there and welcome to the forum
       Yes, DNOTS is inevitably more like dark month or two or the
       soul. The only way out is to not fight it and go right through
       the middle. Not easy.
       Just do the best you can which is all one can expect. If it's
       any consolation, your are not the first to experience this, and
       the other side is.... well.. it's the other side. You will enjoy
       it immensely.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 36254--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dunkdivee
   DIR By: dunkdivee
       Date: November 15, 2018, 5:29 am
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       I want to start therapy soon, preferably group therapy.
       I'm carrying a lot of shame around that I need to go through.
       Working through those feelings in a group seems like a good
       option, because when I'm alone it's very easy to repress them
       all.
       I've had a few moments in my life where I broke through the
       clouds and ended up on the other side where I felt free, in wide
       open space.
       Been living a life of quiet desperation for too long now.
       All the thinking and rationalizing in the world can't release a
       single feeling.
       #Post#: 36255--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dunkdivee
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: November 15, 2018, 7:55 am
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       You are right about logic and it's failures. So... what would
       you do instead.
       Group therapy, it's very dependent on the models, theories and
       presenters. It can be a double edged sword.
       I suggest caution, but I also suggest action.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 36261--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dunkdivee
   DIR By: dunkdivee
       Date: November 16, 2018, 4:56 am
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       Yea, don't think I'll go through with the therapy. I thought I'd
       need it to really get to the core of all the pain.
       But last night I focused on that feeling and I got right in the
       middle of it, crying harder than I've ever done, snot dripping
       on the floor, it was glorious.
       Didn't go all the way though, as today I am feeling incredibly
       angry, like 'kill every fucking person I see'-anger.
       #Post#: 36262--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dunkdivee
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: November 16, 2018, 7:44 am
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       Dear Snot Dripping Angry Person:
       Super! I love it, now do not let up.... stick with it.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 36452--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dunkdivee
   DIR By: dunkdivee
       Date: December 6, 2018, 4:52 am
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       Going to a psychologist after all, it's very hard to do the work
       on my own consistently.
       Having a psych meeting every week or so should really help with
       that.
       Psychology, for the most part, is trading in a story for a
       better one imo.
       I'm well aware of this, but there are plenty of gold nuggets in
       there, though.
       Having a personal story is restrictive, no matter what the story
       is, better off not having one.
       It's really incredible how attached I am to it, to the point
       that I would die before giving it up.
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       Re: Dunkdivee
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: December 6, 2018, 6:07 am
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       If you want to die before giving up your b.s., then you probably
       will. Seems rather silly to me, but what do I know?
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 36967--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dunkdivee
   DIR By: dunkdivee
       Date: January 8, 2019, 5:45 am
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       Some things that caught my attention.
       In response to Escapist claiming T/R, you responded with:
       'Welcome home my friend.'
       You dismissed Frits' concerns by questioning his
       reasoning/motives for bringing them up, instead of answering
       directly.
       You said 'My job is .., not to  rate person's progress or
       attainment.' but you end your post with 'In my experience and
       observations, the fact that anyone would engage in such a debate
       is a petty good indicator that they are not, but hey, what do I
       know?'
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       Re: Dunkdivee
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: January 8, 2019, 6:06 am
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       and.... what does that mean in your world? Does it have any
       effect on you? I suggest you stick with your own journey. If you
       have a specific question for me, I might be able to assist.
       However, to be of any value, it must be a question about you and
       your experiences. Looking in is much more productive than
       looking out.
       Love ya, Jed
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