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Talks #1 have started thinking
DIR By: Parsley
Date: August 30, 2018, 1:03 pm
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Hi Jed,
I’ve come to read your latest book (Talks #1). And it has
started me thinking.
Well, I‘ve catched the message, that it’s absolute pointless
trying to achieve T/R (or better to say UnT/UnR).
It’s funny, you say you would be surprised if there are more
than 30 or 40 enlightened people in the world. So isn’t it a
great big joke that so many people are trying to achieve what is
almost unachievable? Who seduced me to even think about such a
pursuit?
Maya is really adorable, which means this program unfolding
before our eyes (Brahman’s eyes) is brilliant without any doubt.
Brahman playing Avatar, no, getting played by his own
timeless consciousness.
So what are we doing here on this forum? Suddenly it looks like
another trick of Maya to keep people from committing suicide by
telling them there is something to achieve. And that’s perfect,
ok. As the german writer Hermann Hesse once wrote: „Life does
not get flat, stupid and boring if you try to achieve an ideal
but by thinking you have to achieve it“. Stay hungry!
Well, now that thinking has started I’m wondering: How does this
forum fit together with the books? Is this forum a trial getting
a message through to the little bastard within, or merely a
clever distraction from it (a safeguard if the spiritual
marketplace fails trying to save persistent ego from a pointless
path of self-destruction)?
You wrote: „In my experience, virtually all spiritual seekers
insist on looking without for what lies within. That’s why
students are never qualified to ask questions and why I stopped
playing the teacher role.“
So why now go on teaching?
(sorry if I wrote to much).
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Re: Talks #1 have started thinking
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: August 31, 2018, 12:27 am
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Hi Parsley:
Welcome to the forum and you raise some good point.
First off, never, ever believe anything another person
(including me) tells you. Always go and find out for yourself.
Words issued from other dream character's mouth are just more
dream material. They might point and be useful, and might not,
but always test for yourself. Have you ever said, ''I love you''
when you were not thinking exactly that? How about I hate you
when you were simply angry? Maybe you said, ''Good morning, how
are you'' when you could not have cared less about the person
and would rather they just go away.
Why does it seem that so many folks seek ''this'' and so few
achieve/realize it? Most folks don't really want T/R, they are
not willing to give up all their stories, pain,
self-justification and various other things which are so
important to them.
Keep in mind that there is no such thing as a non-fiction book.
Libraries might try to tell you there is, but once a word is
written down or spoken it is subject to the interpretation of
the recipient... and then the fiction become obvious to an
evolved viewer.
There is not me here to teach anyone there... there is no one
their... just a collection of dream characters in their pain
arguing for their limitation.... and, of course, everyone is a
both a teach and a student all the time.
You mind is continually seeking security, consistency and
continuity.... and your mind is never going to find it... but
that doesn't stop it until it stop... someday. The answer to
your ''why'' questions are always the same, 'because' or 'it
seemed like a good idea at the time'. You, or I, can make up
reasons but because they are made up, they are.... made up. Made
up reasons are completely fluff. From now own, try answering
everybodies ''why'' questions with ''because'' and then watch
how their mind start churning up reasons.... all b. s. Perhaps
well intentioned, but just silly.
What are you seeking? Let me guess. You want to have a happy
life without pain or sorrow... is that true? If you don't have
that now, I can tell you exactly why (hmmm.) no, not because,
but because of your mind.
Never, ever, expect people, especially me, to be consistent or
reasonable. I am neither and no one else is either, but precious
few realize that.
The books filter out contenders from pretenders, the forum takes
that further and then perhaps they join me on a one on one basis
in the Nav Series.... it's a little like a funnel. Why do it
this way... you already know the answer.
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Talks #1 have started thinking
DIR By: Parsley
Date: August 31, 2018, 12:22 pm
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I do agree with your comments, not because you convinced me, but
'because'. ;)
Seeking a happy life without pain and sorrow?
What is happiness? It's relative, depending on all the debris in
the mind. Is it the orgasm or the calm after the orgasm, or the
urge to get more or the peace of letting go?
Even my stupid mind accepts, that the best way to get unhappy is
the pusuit of happiness. It's a trap, it simply does not work. I
miss the point trying to control emotions.
These days my damaged health is pushing me to seek for
solutions. But it's getting obvious that it's all about death.
Death of dreams, hopes, plans, stories, status, trophys; death
of the illusion to think I am this guy who I thought I am for so
long.
Have I really thought this? How can that be if I (ego-self) do
not really exist.
On some other topic you recommended to sit down, relax, breathe
and let myself die with all these imaginations of future and
past and what I have won or achieved and what I have lost or
missed.
Is there any better practice? I don't think so.
This just happens to "me" whether I want it or not. It's
painful, of course. But it looks like Maya has cancelled its
support to throw me back into the race.
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Re: Talks #1 have started thinking
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: September 1, 2018, 1:00 am
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Sounds like you are doing fine, except for the pain. You might
want to ask who the pain is occurring to. Go as deep as you can.
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Talks #1 have started thinking
DIR By: Parsley
Date: September 6, 2018, 10:10 am
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I appreciate your short focused answers, always pointing at 'who
does it occur to?'
It's the mind thinking that me and the stories are true.
Fortunately not in my case because 'I' reached the point of
having enough of chasing illusions. No resistance anymore that
it's all burning down. There goes this illusive Me, bye bye.
What is lost? Nothing.
So who's the mind thinking there's a person with pain?
A patch in the program. Maya.
I am. Infinite. Not the person, but the no-one wearing the
person (all persons) to act like someone (billions of ones).
Oh oh, sounds like: "Teacher, teacher, am I right?" :-)
Who cares?
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Re: Talks #1 have started thinking
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: September 7, 2018, 12:15 am
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You have always been right in everything you have ever said or
done... to bad, there is no such thing as ''right''.
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Talks #1 have started thinking
DIR By: Parsley
Date: September 7, 2018, 2:14 pm
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Not bad, damn good! :-)
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Re: Talks #1 have started thinking
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: September 7, 2018, 11:31 pm
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No good, no bad ... that's the sameness of Truth.
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Talks #1 have started thinking
DIR By: Parsley
Date: September 8, 2018, 1:30 pm
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Yes, of course. These days I get reminders from all around to
leave it behind being fixed on feelings. They come they go, same
as with thoughts, no good or bad.
This person that I am wearing (belonging to this phenomenal
story) was very attached to emotional memories. But now when the
question arises: Suffer or delete all?, the answer is already
there: Delete!
It's relieving to lose myself to get back home to the unleavable
ocean. It's all a matter of fantastical identification. What is
lost when I (as this human being) is dead. The movie is over.
Next one. Further!
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Re: Talks #1 have started thinking
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: September 9, 2018, 12:57 am
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The events where deleted the moment they occurred. It's the mind
that keeps all the b.s. alive. I suggest letting go, but that is
just noise. It is all already gone.
Love ya, Jed.
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