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       #Post#: 42486--------------------------------------------------
       Re: what's what
   DIR By: eldonko
       Date: October 18, 2020, 3:42 pm
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       hi Jed, you replied on my post re is there a body.  I don't
       recall anyone ever saying they followed what I said exactly
       before, thanks for the validation.  How mind is making things
       seems obvious once it is noticed, which is why you can say that
       I guess, but to have someone else say it is a booster for hte
       sincerity and stick-to-t-ness tank.
       do yuo think there is a point in continuing to engage in the
       character?  Or do yuo think it is necesasry maybe?  do you have
       any ideas about what might happen if that habit was let go of?
       is that a further?
       As always, thanks for being available.
       #Post#: 42494--------------------------------------------------
       Re: what's what
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: October 22, 2020, 11:12 pm
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       Nothing is ever necessary, absolutely nothing at all.
       'Necesssary' is just a conceptual thingy, mostly so others can
       impose their b.s. on you. So, to repeat, nothing at all is
       necessary. Are you talking about your 'character' engaging with
       your 'character'... I don't think you have much choice in the
       matter. Try 'dog chasing it's tail'.
       What will happen is what will happen. Once again, you have, at
       best, only a sliver of a say in that. Why not let your
       experiences be what they are.... just dream material and of
       very, very little consequence. There is no such thing as 'not
       further', but I use the word to kind of selectively point,
       nothing more.
       Much love and stay healthy,
       '
       Jed.
       #Post#: 42509--------------------------------------------------
       Re: what's what
   DIR By: eldonko
       Date: October 29, 2020, 2:12 am
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       When you say,
       "Are you talking about your 'character' engaging with your
       'character'... I don't think you have much choice in the matter.
       Try 'dog chasing it's tail'."
       What do you mean by the two characters, I am not clear...
       thanks Jed.
       #Post#: 42510--------------------------------------------------
       Re: what's what
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: October 29, 2020, 4:28 am
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       That's what I was pointing to....
       Stick with it.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 42514--------------------------------------------------
       Re: what's what
   DIR By: eldonko
       Date: October 30, 2020, 11:58 am
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       Hi Jed I am going to try again with that question, please
       indulge.
       I didn't understand what you mean by the 'character engaging in
       the character', and have contemplated the idea of two characters
       it a bit.
       
       Here goes:
       Consciousness is all we know, common denominator, so the movie
       of the senses superimposed on consciousness is the first
       'character'-  I see what appears to be 'myself' doing stuff as
       the center of things, prior to thought labels.  Ie. Even though
       I don't have any control over what is happening and know that,
       it still appears to be my arms poking out and typing, etc. hence
       a character to be identified with.
       Then from that simple state of awareness, thought/conditioned
       mind is engaged in, and the personality character is born, the
       obvious character.  Thus two characters, and one trying to give
       up the other is like a dog chasing it's tail.
       If so then I should keep heading on through both characters.
       Or perhaps, be that which is aware of consciousness?
       Any clarification you can offer is appreciated.
       
       
       
       #Post#: 42516--------------------------------------------------
       Re: what's what
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: October 31, 2020, 2:13 am
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       It's like nailing jello to the wall, but you have it down pretty
       well.
       Much love,
       Jed.
       #Post#: 42517--------------------------------------------------
       Re: what's what
   DIR By: eldonko
       Date: November 3, 2020, 9:21 am
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       Haha thanks Jed, funny simile, nailing jello to the wall.  It is
       definitely getting tricky to use concepts to describe things.
       Guess I will watch the characters do their thing.  😜
       Much love back at ya!
       #Post#: 42527--------------------------------------------------
       Re: what's what
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: November 11, 2020, 4:32 am
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       ;) ;) ;) ;) :o ::) :P :P :P
       #Post#: 42953--------------------------------------------------
       Re: what's what
   DIR By: eldonko
       Date: April 28, 2021, 9:55 pm
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       ah Jed, I was hoping when you talked about the transition as a
       horror show akin to a psychotic break some of it was for
       dramatic effect.  nope, and it is not even worth it, hey? except
       it is better than watching 'myself' be an ass among asses.
       asshatery all around, on every channel.  AHTV
       but then sometimes, and more than before, natural, boundless,
       empty, and it is good, and there is relief and encouragement.
       hey if I say there is a black hole at the base of my skull that
       wants to suck me in, and silently whispers surrender and go see,
       do you smile?    [emoji573].
       your diagram thing that I sort of remember from TOE isn't all
       that metaphorical maybe.  first step might be the last step
       also?
       fun fact, where I live, walking around with an empty head and
       happy eyes looks like being on hard drugs apparently, haha....I
       keep looking at pictures of nis, and oh how we laugh.  ::) if I
       was capitalistic I could probably use it to my advantage and get
       rich jedi spare changing the suitmonkeys downtown.
       lightbulb eye intimidation technique.
       too bad there aren't more bright eyes/empty heads around to take
       the heat off a bit, actually.  it is kind of discouraging to be
       accused of rocking around on hard drugs.  Or disconcerting.  It
       is something, anyway, except it doesn't change anything, so
       nothing.  AHTV.  Maybe north america is the problem.  We were
       raised on fruit loops and looney tunes, after all...
       ah well, thanks for listening to a ramble, it is lonely not have
       anyone that winks at me knowingly, on occasion, and otherwise
       offers their realness for contemplation.
       el donko (with a bullet)
       #Post#: 42960--------------------------------------------------
       Re: what's what
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: April 29, 2021, 9:16 pm
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       Dear Assoholoic Junkie:
       Sounds just fine to me. Onwards my friend.
       Love ya, Jed.
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