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       #Post#: 35521--------------------------------------------------
       what's what
       By: eldonko Date: August 23, 2018, 12:09 pm
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       Hi Jed,
       It seems like there is a pretty clear understanding that nothing
       is mine, and I is just a sense of being in which everything
       happens.  This story of thought has such a magnetic power
       though, that word I.  But sometimes there is a distancing from
       thought, and it is realized that the present is just what is,
       and presence is a matter of attention.  I mean sometimes there
       is a letting go of attention on a specific facet of this
       experience, and then awareness is expansive and free, and
       everything keeps happening without it being personal.  It seems
       like the only thing that keeps the illusion of me and a world
       going is the habit of focusing on it in that way, instead of
       letting that go.
       Is there any suggestion you have for how to generate more effort
       in that way, how to speed things up?  Or I guess the place to
       start, is what I am describing valid at all?
       Thanks.
       #Post#: 35525--------------------------------------------------
       Re: what's what
       By: Jed McKenna Date: August 23, 2018, 11:44 pm
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       Hi There:
       Welcome to the forum and thank you for your question(s).
       Nothing wrong with what you are experiencing. It's a necessary
       step in the process. Keep in mind that the fortress called ''I,
       me, my and mine'' has been built up over many years, perhaps
       decades. In addition, that illusion of a personal self is fully
       supported by societies and institutions all over you world. Maya
       surrounds you... so what to do?
       Keep doing exactly what you are doing, be patient and do you
       best to avoid seeking specific outcomes. What arises, arises..
       and in it's own way is perfect. Now back to work (gently).
       Love ya, Jed.
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       Re: what's what
       By: eldonko Date: August 24, 2018, 2:29 am
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       Your response is appreciated Jed thank you.
       Since the word surrender came up, it has occurred to me that
       since nothing is mine there is a process that is taking care of
       itself, and any other view is just thinking.  A story line for
       an epic hero.  Well, maybe a mediocre hero.
       Sounds like surrender is a good thing.  How's that seem?
       Thanks for the (gently), impacting.
       :)
       #Post#: 35530--------------------------------------------------
       Re: what's what
       By: eldonko Date: August 24, 2018, 2:31 am
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       woops should have been 'since the word process came up'.
       Apparently the word surrender is what is coming up in lieu of.
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       Re: what's what
       By: eldonko Date: August 24, 2018, 10:49 am
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       Been awhile since a read your books.  Release the tiller came
       up.
       :-*
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       Re: what's what
       By: Jed McKenna Date: August 24, 2018, 11:04 pm
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       ;) ;) ;) :o 8)
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       Re: what's what
       By: eldonko Date: January 23, 2019, 9:41 pm
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       Haha what a silly dream to watch Jed.  There was never a need to
       fight with thoughts was there?  They can think whatever they
       want about it, it all just keeps flowing by regardless!  A grain
       of sand in a windstorm can think it is choosing where it is
       going, haha.
       Much love.
       :D
       
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       Re: what's what
       By: Jed McKenna Date: January 24, 2019, 12:59 am
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       No need to fight anything. Much better to love it to death.
       Cheers.
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       Re: what's what
       By: eldonko Date: January 24, 2019, 2:36 pm
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       [emoji108] Love it to death.  Good one Jed.
       Cheers, like galaxies colliding.  See you (be you!) in the
       thingy.
       ;)
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       Re: what's what
       By: Jed McKenna Date: January 25, 2019, 12:53 am
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       Oh yes, galaxies colliding. Maybe more truthish that fictionish.
       Love ya, Jed.
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