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       #Post#: 34182--------------------------------------------------
       Die before you die
   DIR By: Jump
       Date: March 5, 2018, 1:49 am
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       Don’t all big spiritual systems actually describe the same thing
       you are talking about? You call it seeking for truth, others
       call it seeking if God exists... just different words... but the
       same hard death. Right? You are not talking a lot on what you
       find...very buddhist in fact...but stress the journey... but
       wouldn’t everyone find the same truth after the death of the
       ego? There is only one....
       #Post#: 34187--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Die before you die
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: March 5, 2018, 10:46 pm
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       Dear Jump:
       All realization of one's true nature is, in it's purest form
       identical, however, upon return to the body and humanness it is
       expressed through one's own language/words, one's cultural
       filters and one's human 'life' experiences. T/R is unimaginable
       and indescribable so it will inevitably be described with some
       similarities and considerably differences. Just the way it is.
       All descriptions, including mine, are just stories and all that
       really matters is that you go and find our for yourself and your
       Self. Stories are only useful in that they point, but they also
       trap the search into the illusion that he/she can imagine what
       T/R is like. Such imagining is often flowered ups with bells,
       baubles and b.s. and that is all that is needed to block the
       true view/experience/whatever you wish to call it. I.E. find out
       on your own what's true for you... and then let all that go
       because it will inevitably be from your mind, and see what is
       left. Simple but not easy. It takes real nerve to jump and not
       just talk about it.
       Best wishes on your journey.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 34193--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Die before you die
   DIR By: Jump
       Date: March 6, 2018, 5:08 am
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       Dear Jed,
       Thanks for the fast reply. Totally agree with you! Coming out of
       Christianity, I „jumped“ 4 years ago. Figured it out from the
       Bible. I love your texts and books because you find a modern
       language to communicate this knowledge. Also love your
       descriptions of „life after death“. Be well.
       Love,
       Jump
       #Post#: 34199--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Die before you die
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: March 7, 2018, 12:02 am
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       Hi Jump:
       I came to the conclusion that life before death is well worth a
       little effort and house cleaning. Most people, in their lives of
       quiet misery and desperation, have no idea what life is about. I
       found that it's (IMHO) all about entertainment. A bit like a
       circus or entertainment park... and at the same time
       multidimensional V/R. It's a dream gift and any dream character
       who turns their nose up at the gift is... just missing the
       point.
       There are parts of the dream that appear good, some bad, and
       some in between.... that's just the nature of the dream. And
       when you realize that the True You was never born, then you
       realize that it can't possibly die. You only check out of the
       dream of humanness and into more and more adventures.
       Is that true? No! Words are only symbols and never actually true
       or real. Is it representative of my experience? Absolutely yes!
       Is such realization(s) worth the effort? In my experience it's
       are the only thing in the dream of humanness worthy of throwing
       your ''self'' into with all the gusto you can muster. I think
       I'll get a t-shirt printed... ''Find out for your self''.
       Love ya, Jed
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       Re: Die before you die
   DIR By: Jump
       Date: March 7, 2018, 2:18 am
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       Hi Jed, also totally agree with you on this one. Everything is
       just loving playfulness and soo alive.. Nothing serious,no fear,
       no body, no death. Rather entertaining and intense. Just like
       Jesus said: “Come and see“. I sure would wear that shirt too!
       And I wonder why people can possibly choose to remain in the
       dreamstate, it is such a little step. Just muster the courage
       and jump. From one state to the other..  Hilarious! Is that
       true? No of course not! Only if I choose to...
       Jump and enjoy!
       Big hug and lots of love,
       Jump
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       Re: Die before you die
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: March 7, 2018, 4:46 am
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       Back at ya....  :-* :-* :-*
       #Post#: 34287--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Die before you die
   DIR By: Jump
       Date: March 22, 2018, 4:39 am
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       Hi Jed,
       Going through death, I broke free of everything. Also all
       personal attachments to people. I find it very difficult
       (bothersome) to have to go back and keep living in the old
       confines. It would be honest to get rid of them. Live
       independently. But there is a bunch of people in the dream state
       around me, who would “hurt” if I lived the truth... Is that what
       they mean by Karma..?
       Jump
       #Post#: 34288--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Die before you die
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: March 22, 2018, 7:19 am
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       Their pain lies only in the fact that their stories are not
       proving to be fulfilled.... and their stories are clearly not
       your problem. Do you really think that living the ''truth'' as
       you put it will cause pain? How much pain is caused by living a
       ''lie''?
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 34319--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Die before you die
   DIR By: Jump
       Date: March 25, 2018, 9:11 am
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       So in the end it boils down to simply doing what’s „in
       character“ and then letting things develop? And leave the others
       to figure it out themselves?
       #Post#: 34320--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Die before you die
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: March 25, 2018, 10:20 am
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       That would seem logical, but sometimes you ''character'' just
       seems to generate misery.. is that true for you?
       Love ya, Jed.
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