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       Re: Jed Rant: Thoughts on thoughts.
       By: stamate Date: September 29, 2017, 1:12 am
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       [quote author=Jed McKenna link=topic=1486.msg31941#msg31941
       date=1506657580]
       Thinking is an attempt to set boundaries and confine,
       imagination is the opposite. Well... unless you are thinking
       that you are imagining or imagining you are thinking... then
       it's a dog's breakfast.
       [/quote]
       isn't imagination also made up of boundaries and confinements?
       and you don't need words for it, just like you can see a shape
       is different from another, or a color. you see how the blue of
       the sky is not the same as the blue of the sea, even if you
       don't have a word for it. perceived, imagined, pondered - what's
       the difference? all consciousness is made up of boundaries.
       maybe you are referring to "personal" boundaries, personal
       identity thoughts, boundaries of boundaries.
       as for the main topic, i don't know if the universe is projected
       by me or i experience an outer universe projected on me - but i
       don't think it ultimately matters.
       why do thoughts come up? why does anything comes up? a certain
       instance of creation contains a certain thought.
       #Post#: 31957--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: Thoughts on thoughts.
       By: Jed McKenna Date: September 29, 2017, 6:37 am
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       No more stories, what's you most important question.. and it
       can't start with ''why"?".
       and, don't ask why it can't start with why, cause I will say
       ''because''.
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       Re: Jed Rant: Thoughts on thoughts.
       By: stamate Date: October 2, 2017, 11:45 am
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       [quote author=Jed McKenna link=topic=1486.msg31957#msg31957
       date=1506685066]
       No more stories, what's you most important question.. and it
       can't start with ''why"?".
       and, don't ask why it can't start with why, cause I will say
       ''because''.
       [/quote]
       i have always compared the path with reading a book. you read
       and are absorbed in it, imune to "distractions" - but only when
       you find the book interesting ... the crises that push you
       beyond come and pass, as well as the interest. today i'm in
       "conflict" with the world, tomorrow i'm engulfed in it. if i
       look inside i find no impulse, the exterior is ever changing.
       how do you not lose your momentum? how about a failsafe
       mechanism? haha, guaranteed enlightenment...
       i fear that if i go on with "reading" i'll get in a tighter
       place then the one i'm already in.
       #Post#: 32021--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: Thoughts on thoughts.
       By: Jed McKenna Date: October 2, 2017, 8:27 pm
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       Be careful what you read... remember, GIGO.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 32161--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: Thoughts on thoughts.
       By: no one Date: October 10, 2017, 5:36 pm
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       Back in 2011 over a three day period I had numerous experiences
       where the body would begin to move to take some action and THEN
       the thought occurred to me to go do whatever the body had gotten
       up to do. It was a bit trippy and I was NOT on any mind altering
       substances. Hasn’t happened since. It probably happens ALL the
       time I’m just too slow or not present enough to see what’s
       actually happening, don’t know......as usual.
       #Post#: 32665--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: Thoughts on thoughts.
       By: abranpaso Date: November 5, 2017, 7:43 pm
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       I "think" the question is:
       What is beyond  thought?
       Tought is all i have learned, thought is all I have
       experienced,
       thought is in all i do, feel, see. Though in my opinion is
       everything, thought creates my self, and my self is EVERYTHING
       for me.
       Then, if there is no thought, there is no self, there is no I,
       there is nothing at all beyond thought.
       But you Mr Jed, say that yes, there is someting beyond thought,
       That emptiness is my "true self"
       I want to see what is beyond, but it is someting impossible. My
       false self never can see the truth.
       #Post#: 32666--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: Thoughts on thoughts.
       By: Jed McKenna Date: November 5, 2017, 9:07 pm
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       Yes, the false self can never see Truth.. so why cling to a
       false self? Not much sense in that.
       Love ya, Jed.
       P.S. no on can ''see'' Truth, only realize that it is.
       #Post#: 32750--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: Thoughts on thoughts.
       By: StinkyTheSmell Date: November 8, 2017, 3:19 am
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       Some thoughts are quite enjoyable, erotic ones in particular. :)
       #Post#: 32752--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: Thoughts on thoughts.
       By: Jed McKenna Date: November 8, 2017, 4:01 am
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       Yup... but I don't believe them either...
       Love ya, Jed
       #Post#: 33350--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: Thoughts on thoughts.
       By: Jed McKenna Date: December 21, 2017, 1:41 am
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       There is only one thing that you need to know and that is..
       nothing is knowable.
       Once you realize that you only knows stories about what appears
       to be... life becomes crystal clear.
       Love ya, Jed.
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