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How do we know there is only one consciousness
By: guest939 Date: July 16, 2017, 5:24 am
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Why is there this assumption that there is only one
consciousness? How can we not know that every individual has
their own consciousness?
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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
By: Jed McKenna Date: July 17, 2017, 1:04 am
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All assumptions are false, that's why they are called
''assumptions''. Please define what you mean by
''consciousness'' and perhaps we can continue with less
assumptions.
In addition, the answer to all ''why'' questions is very
simple.... ''because''. One need know nothing more in order to
answer every ''why?''.
Now, why do you ask?
Unless, you want to make up more... assumptions.
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
By: guest939 Date: July 21, 2017, 11:53 am
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....Because.
Harharhar I get ya!
Yeah no I hear you Jed. Anything attached to thinking my ego is
the be all and end all is just spinning my wheels. I guess to
define consciousness again I'd say it's like the blank stage
where all this stuff takes place including the stuff which seems
to be taking place. It is becoming more felt over time. But
yeahhh I'm still stuck in my attention being still on my ego.
Unpleasant or boring things still suck and fun or delicious
things are preferred. I desire stuff. Not stuff to prove myself
to others but stuff that I just want. It's a felt and thought
experience of desire. If I put my attention on what is not that
experience isn't that still experience caused by my mind? Gurus
talk of the self dropping but the self is part of consciousness
just like everything that's occurring. So how can it drop? It
seems like more of what might happen is it becomes no more
significant than anything else. But I'm still at the point where
a nice juicy steak eaten with a gorgeous woman on a tropical
beach is more what my self prefers to have in experience than
catching the train home at 10pm after work. I can get a bit of
peace from my skill at turning my attention away from my
cognitions and into my senses in the now but that's just a
little glimpse triggered by the mind.and that gets boring.
Everything gets boring. I'm sure if I had enough steaks and
tropical women that would get boring too. But I still want it.
I'm hungry 😋
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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
By: Jed McKenna Date: July 21, 2017, 12:41 pm
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It's pretty challenging to talk about these matters, but you say
that the self is part of consciousness... and if we are to take
C as meaning T, then you are not correct, Nothing is a part of
Truth, it only appears within it... no as a part or it. This is
an important distinction.
How can you drop what isn't there, what does not exist? Tell me,
I would love to know. The only real hunger is for Truth, the
revealing/discovery of your true nature. Everything that arises
does so in You, but that doesn't mean it's real. And that is
definitely not the you that you think you are. Anything that
appears to have a beginning will be found to eventually have an
ending. Truth just is... or perhaps IS! Always has been and
always will be because in Truth there is no such thing as
''time''.... another illusion.
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
By: guest939 Date: July 22, 2017, 10:34 am
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I'm not sure which "you" You mean here do you mean the ego "you"
or the TR "you"-. "Everything that arises does so in You, but
that doesn't mean it's real. And that is definitely not the you
that you think you are.
"Anything that appears to have a beginning will be found to
eventually have an ending. Truth just is... or perhaps IS!"
Consciousness doesn't appear to have a beginning and just is.
I can't know or experience outside of my consciousness so if the
truth is beyond consciousness then how can it ever be known? It
can't right?
So I read in another post you said remove a thorn with a thorn.
So remove consciousness with consciousness. Can you offer any
advice on that? If I try to write something true. I'd say truth
is beyond my ability to know. If I can't know it what else is
there to do? Knowing that hasn't popped my ego. Or changed
anything
I'm sorry if I seem angry. I just am totally lost in this now
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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
By: guest939 Date: July 22, 2017, 10:47 am
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I think I'm just too dumb to understand this. My mind can't know
truth. Consciousness without mind is not truth. Trying to use
some meditation technique won't get me to truth. Apparently
there is no me. So what is typing this word and this word? And
how can you say simply it doesn't exist? This right there >
"this word"
before anything comes into my mind or whatever it doesn't exist
is just a potential thought, as are senses and experiences
outside my consciousness. So am I really that void of potential
before the manifestation of thought because I don't get why that
is significant
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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
By: Jed McKenna Date: July 22, 2017, 11:20 am
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Blah,blah... you are trying to think your way through this,
forget that, it cannot be done that way. Truth does not yield
itself to analysis, it's completely paradoxical. Pursuing your
thoughts, as you are, will end up in massive frustration... BUT,
that can be very good if you reach that point and totally give
up.
Once again, neither Truth nor I make any sense.... so don't
waste time trying to figure it out, just accept what is, forgive
EVERYTHING and EVERYONE in your life, take a deep breath and
relax.
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
By: guest939 Date: July 22, 2017, 8:53 pm
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Okay... I'm giving up on this stuff. Before I go do you have any
tips on how to not think? Because it seems impossible
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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
By: Jed McKenna Date: July 22, 2017, 11:23 pm
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Just watch you thoughts and realize that none of them are
yours... they are just recordings from the past that keep
playing and replaying. Watch them and contemplate what you next
thought will be. Much to be learned with a little dedications.
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: How do we know there is only one consciousness
By: guest939 Date: July 23, 2017, 10:58 am
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So why could I have thoughts in the past but now they are
replays? Or do you mean that many of them are replays?
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