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       #Post#: 29134--------------------------------------------------
       Life after death
       By: expelliarmus Date: June 2, 2017, 9:39 am
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       Hi Jed,
       I have a question which I'm not sure you can answer but I'm
       gonna ask it anyways. I really need to know.
       So when Jed McKenna dies (or any other "enlightened person")
       will it be like watching the rest of the play just without you
       on stage, in other words, will consciousness watch the universe
       unfold further, or will it just all be over and you will just
       rest as nothingness for eternity?
       I hope this makes sense
       #Post#: 29138--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Life after death
       By: Jed McKenna Date: June 2, 2017, 11:42 am
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       Dear E:
       Welcome to the forum... and that's a good question.
       However, it's the wrong question. You might want to ask yourself
       something like, ''Who is it that is asking.''.... or ''What am I
       fearing"?
       Speaking from my own experience, I was never born and thus can
       never die. There is a body in this appearance, and it will
       eventually become worm food. I couldn't care less because it has
       nothing to do with the real me.
       I am 99.99% confident that this will be your experience... some
       day. But, who knows and who cares. Be patient, relax and
       breathe... and do the best you can to understand your control
       issues.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 29143--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Life after death
       By: expelliarmus Date: June 2, 2017, 2:00 pm
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       "What am I fearing"....well that's easy. I'm afraid that I will
       have to spend 2 years in excruciating agony :D :D
       No but seriously though, thank you for your answer. This is
       basically the question that I've been asking myself for the last
       few months more or less 24/7 and it has brought up so
       much.....well...shit. Which is really good.
       It's just that I had this...let's say experience, which made me
       really scared and it made me realize that this is not at all
       what I want. But I don't think that any of this is in my
       control, so I'll just hope for the best :-\
       PS: I didn't really think that there was a simple answer the
       question, but it was worth a try. Thank you anyways. I'll just
       keep doing my thing
       #Post#: 29153--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Life after death
       By: Jed McKenna Date: June 3, 2017, 4:43 am
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       Good plan E, look for what might die... see what's there, if
       anything.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 30138--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Life after death
       By: expelliarmus Date: July 6, 2017, 9:39 am
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       Hi Jed,
       A couple of questions have popped up and my hope is that you can
       provide me with some insight.
       1. Let's start with the most serious one: Looking back I see now
       that what fueled my search for enlightenment was a deep seated
       sort of demon/pain-body thing. In a way it always felt like it
       was burried under many layers, like it was really far away yet
       extremely accute. Now I feel like I have digged all the way down
       through all sorts of crap to the very source of it. But now I am
       stuck here. It really feels like a demon has his teeth in my
       legs and is constantly pulling me down and never letting go,
       which makes everyday life a drag. Now I know that this is a
       great opportunity, but I'm afraid that if I immerse myself fully
       in the pain I will go further than I had intended. I very much
       think that this is one of those demons that can throw me off
       this cliff that you talk about. And I am definitely not ready
       for that. Maybe some day, but I really just want to have a few
       years of living a normal life, being myself, having experiences.
       I mean, I am still so young. All the work I have done I did in
       order to clean out the prism of self, not to get rid of the
       prism altogether. So the least I should get is a couple of years
       as my self, right?
       So what choice do I have? Well, I thought that maybe the pain I
       am feeling has nothing to with psychological pain, maybe there
       is just something wrong with my brain? Maybe the best thing
       would be to see a psychiatrist so that he can prescribe me some
       pills that balance out whatever inbalance there is and all will
       be good. I'm also thinking that I don't have to take them
       indefinitely. I could just take them for a few years, enjoy the
       shit out of my life, have realtionships, get educated etc. and
       then I stop taking them, immerse myself in the pain, accumulate
       enough dissatisfaction to jump off the cliff and then that's
       that.
       So that's pretty much what's been going on in my mind. Am I an
       absulute lunatic? Am I just fooling myself by thinking that the
       first step is that imminent? Is my plan just really stupid?
       Could it work?
       2. In your newest book, Jed Talks #1, you say that you can name
       about a dozen living poeple who are awake and you would estimate
       that there are about two dozen alive today. That seems to be a
       really low number to me. I mean, in Damnedest you said that you
       can account for about 1-2 cases of enlightenment a year. So
       what, you only taught for 5 years? And also the whole thing with
       this forum and navigator series and what not....it just strikes
       me as very strange that you only know of twelve cases of
       spiritual enlighenment, but what do I know.
       Anyway, thank you for your time and all that you do.
       Love, E
       #Post#: 30142--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Life after death
       By: Jed McKenna Date: July 6, 2017, 12:09 pm
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       I'm not much of a statistician, in fact I am terrible at it. Who
       really knows. I can only make estimates and speak of my own
       experiences. I would that that from 3 to 5 percent the Series
       students have reached T/R, but once again, some of the smarter
       ones just keep their mouths shut. I'm not that smart.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 30150--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Life after death
       By: expelliarmus Date: July 7, 2017, 4:46 am
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       Thank you and sorry about that dumb comment.
       The only problem is that I still think I can controll anything.
       Maybe I should find out if this is really the case before I go
       down these rabbit holes.
       So one question. Is it ok if I do the spiritual autolysis here
       in this forum, or should I do it on a word file and just use the
       forum if I have any specific questions?
       #Post#: 30152--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Life after death
       By: Jed McKenna Date: July 7, 2017, 8:07 am
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       I read, and have read, every word written to me. I'm not
       inclined to read your S/A.
       If you have a specific sticking point and a question about it,
       please write on the forum.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 30383--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Life after death
       By: expelliarmus Date: July 21, 2017, 6:09 am
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       I got it! I had an epiphany!!! It is so obvious. I’ve always
       been trying to do something. I have always tried to achieve
       something. But all I gotta do is look. Let go of the tiller for
       a second and look around for things that seem to be me and then
       just question the reality of it. So simple
       #Post#: 30384--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Life after death
       By: expelliarmus Date: July 21, 2017, 6:24 am
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       Now I really only have one thing that I've been stuck with that
       maybe you can help me with. Do you think that all depression is
       just caused by perception, or is it really the case that some
       depression is just due to some inbalance in the brain and should
       be taken care of in that way.
       Because there is this depression that never leaves me no matter
       how I feel otherwise. I can sit in meditation and be in a state
       of absolute contentment and yet still feel depression. I just
       don't know if the depression will eventually go away by itself,
       or if I should try out medication. I know you are probably the
       wrong person to ask this but maybe you do think that sometimes
       medication is the way to go.
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