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       #Post#: 2391--------------------------------------------------
       Jed, on the offensive about defenses
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: October 6, 2014, 10:18 pm
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       An extract from a previous post. Please read slowly while
       watching your response to it. Thanks in advance.
       Simple, but not easy. I don't know if we have discussed this
       one, but have you done Kiloby's vids on Unfindable Objects? Find
       your sickness and the you that is ill. I highly recommend them.
       Conserve your energy by not talking about yourself any more. No
       one really wants to hear about you. They all just pretend.
       Believe me, I know what I am talking about. No! don't believe
       me, believe yourself. That's the source.
       Dialogue:
       Hi, how  are you?
       Well, not too bad, my backs been kicking up a little but the
       twitch in my left hand is going away. I think the acupuncture is
       helping. Got a great acupuncturist, used to be the royal
       accu-guy for the King of Thailand, but now that the king is
       dying he had to leave the country, met him in a book store in
       Syracuse. He noticed a little growth on my right ear, it's dark
       and irregular, said it might be cancer. Jeez, I don't know what
       to do. Other than that, I'm not doing too bad. Wife left me last
       week, said the drinking and smoking dope was getting to her.
       Good thing she didn't find out about 'you know who' or I would
       have lost an important body  part. The guy from Thailand said
       wives feed them to the ducks. I watched a documentary on that, a
       doctor has done three thousand re-attachments in the past eight
       years. Duck chewed ones are the toughest and the blendered ones
       are impossible. Yup.. sure glad she didn't find out about 'you
       know who'. As a precaution, I threw out the Blendomatic we had.
       But, that's enough about me. Tell me... do you think I am
       looking a little pale, you know.. peekid.. these days? I think
       I'm losing weight, might to due the Chinese diet pills I got on
       the internet. Make my jaws clench a lot. Now, what do you
       suppose that is? Ah, probably just a little tension. That's all
       it is, just tension. I'll just have a little smoke and feel
       fine. Have you ever noticed how people don't listen to you? It
       happens all the time to me, no one listen and understands me.
       Just to be clear and for emphasis, no one gives a tinker's damn
       about you, period. Getting that is one of the biggest reliefs l
       could offer you. The freedom that comes from this kind of
       honesty is amazing. Of course, the corollary also applies, with
       the exception of West Africa. There they really do give a damn
       about you but it's not quite the same... they only give a damn
       about whether or not you have symptoms.
       Not giving a damn, or hootlessness as L.L. used to call it
       doesn't mean you are a bastard and ill-willed, it means there is
       little or no 'you' in everything you do. Things don't go better
       with Coke, things go better without 'you' in them. The more
       'you' the more screwed up things get (a generalization, but look
       around 'you' and see for yourself).
       That's a very condensed version of a huge topic. Just try it on
       for size. Also, it's important that I have offended you here, I
       make no bones about it. The only thing that can be offended is
       something that requires defending and this is all about de fence
       (please say with French accent) that you built. I want for you
       to break that fence down into recycled toothpicks. Then compress
       the toothpicks into press-to-logs and send them to Nepal where
       they have burned all their trees down (I spoke to the Dalai
       about it and he said they didn't have many trees to start with
       so it's not their fault).
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 2393--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed, on the offensive about defenses
   DIR By: know1
       Date: October 6, 2014, 10:20 pm
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       Who says enlightenment can't be funny? ;D
       #Post#: 2400--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed, on the offensive about defenses
   DIR By: GromerCop
       Date: October 6, 2014, 11:18 pm
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       Jed, you are making me grin.
       I come here to get things out of my system, not for 'love',
       although seems as we exchange energies here - the 'give and
       take' takes place and all is fair, and in that way we are loving
       each other. EVERYONE, without exception, enjoys the sound of
       their own voice (you too, you liitle (or big?) vampire) lol
       This place IS fun and is self perpetuating, like a roundabout.
       will go on forever, as long as... YOU live forever hahaha!
       Which you won't. Bummer!
       It's all about the energetic exchange.. like sex. Sooooo-oo
       intoxicating, and everyone is having one continuous orgasm. And
       why not?
       #Post#: 2405--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed, on the offensive about defenses
   DIR By: Jack
       Date: October 7, 2014, 12:27 am
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       I noticed this in myself last night.  A girl asked for my number
       through a friend and we ended up chatting for an hour.  I kept
       noticing the compulsion to talk about myself, to describe
       myself.  At certain points I was just waiting for her to stop
       talking so I redirect the conversation back to me.  I do love
       very much to talk about myself.
       Maybe we are all the same, just attention addicts desperately
       seeking our next fix.
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       Re: Jed, on the offensive about defenses
   DIR By: Stephan Caspers
       Date: October 7, 2014, 1:34 am
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       Next time, I better bring protective equipment with me when
       feeding bread to some streetducks. Never knew they can be THAT
       savage!
       #Post#: 2414--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed, on the offensive about defenses
   DIR By: Fear
       Date: October 7, 2014, 2:28 am
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       I mean, what the hell would you talk about but yourself? We must
       feel/know on some level we know nothing about others, they are
       quite literally strangers. And I talk about myself because I am
       a riddle, even tho I fel familiar to me. When I go through it
       carefully and try to compose all the snippets I have every
       characteristic ever found. Its just that certain people see
       certain parts and vice versa.
       That aside, its a fucking RELIEF , and it always has been this
       prospect since the first Mckenna tm book I read, that I dont
       have to talk about myself, that it is not necessary. I think I
       realized a long time ago that it takes a lot of pedigree to get
       something substantial from all the self-talk, like your parents
       and grandparents have got to know how to do it right and then
       you are taught, otherwise I dunno, in my case it always felt
       like enrolling in a deeply wrong college. I always did it
       because on some level I thought it would benefit me, because I
       saw how it benefited other, but I could never put myself , my
       full weight behind it.
       This way, the SA, you talk to yourself about yourself the whole
       day, its social media on steroids.
       So here I am, changing vocations.
       #Post#: 2423--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed, on the offensive about defenses
   DIR By: jacoba
       Date: October 7, 2014, 3:56 am
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       dear jed, yes, I felt hurt and offended and insecure.  Someone
       is laughing as well
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       Re: Jed, on the offensive about defenses
   DIR By: Smith
       Date: October 7, 2014, 4:00 am
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       Looking back, I noticed this in a conversation with a friend
       recently. He's one of the funniest people I know, but he was
       talking about an injury he'd got and it was so boring to listen
       to. It was a bad injury as well, but I got tired of hearing
       about it fast. I've listened to his 'problems' before, but then
       it was funny and a good story. This showed my true colors - if
       I'm not entertained, I don't care.
       I think a way to get people to realize how uninteresting what
       they're saying is, is to really listen to them. When you're
       really there for them, without saying too much yourself, they
       might wake up a little. I talked with another friend and I gave
       him my opinion on something and I immediately regretted it. Why
       was it so bloody important to give it? The quality of the
       conversation subtly suffered because of it. I was attached to
       the topic, and that is annoying for everyone that has to listen.
       #Post#: 2425--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed, on the offensive about defenses
   DIR By: Gwen
       Date: October 7, 2014, 4:09 am
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       waking up = dying for YOU!
       #Post#: 2427--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed, on the offensive about defenses
   DIR By: Gwen
       Date: October 7, 2014, 4:36 am
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       Honestly, maybe all of us are looking for whole-ness/
       acceptance. In our converstations we scream: "ACCEPT ME" cause I
       can't accept myself. I can't accept myself not like this
       ......Not just yet, but maybe whan I'm enlightened, or when I'm
       thinner, or when I drive a big car, or when I'm healthy then I
       will be able to accept myself.
       Maybe waking up is dying from this need of acceptance because
       acceptance is already and always the case. Hilarious isn't it?
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