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Jed Rant: Helping others... eazy peazy
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: May 30, 2017, 11:52 pm
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Dear Members, Lurkers, and Friends:
Here is a major step towards H/A.
Other people's business is just that, their business. When you
are in their business no one is minding the store (your store).
When no one is minding your store others jump to fill the void
and hence run you and your business. Look at it the other way. A
friend calls you up with her problems. It's obvious that she has
problems because she isn't minding her store. You sense the lack
of management and step in to fill the void. Maya/ego loves to
offer management temps as it makes her appear indispensable.
This all happens in and instant and usually quite subtly.... but
it will become more obvious with increased awareness.
STOP and think about what is really going on. You are being of
disservice to her and you. Your store is now empty and her store
is being run by you. That is a formula for suffering if I ever
heard one.
You have nothing to offer anyone until you realize that you are
nothing, and then, just maybe you will be able to offer the
universe and more. Realize your True Nature first and then go
out and change the world, if you can find one.
Now, on a practical level, what does one do when a friend make a
plea for attention (all it usually is)? What to do when you feel
a strong urge to assist and guide them?Yes, I do get that this
arises from time to time and there is a very easy formula. It
requires a rather rare ingredient, trust. Trust that they know
what they really want, where they are going and what to do next.
They may not sound like they do, but that's just their game.
Don't get drawn into it.
Here is the magic formula, but I warn you, it's deceptively
simple while usually difficult as heck to do.
1. Learn how to shut up. Don't finish their sentences, don't
jump to conclusions, relax and breathe. I can assure you that
they aren't and you might just help in that one simple action.
2. ONLY ASK QUESTIONS... ONLY! And that is going to be the hard
part. Do not ask questions to meet your agenda (as best you can)
and don't fail to ask questions just because you ''think'' you
might receive an uncomfortable answer. The goal is to gentle get
them to reflect on their world.
Until you are, at a minimum H/A and preferably T/R, everything
you do will have some degree of Maya/ego contamination, it can't
be avoided. By focusing on questions, you have a much better
chance of being of some service, PLUS, you might just learn
something. While this is just a marvelous dream, learning is
always fun. and learning about this thing called ''you'' is the
most fun, in my experience.
One more point. Sometimes friend A will call you and,
vicariously, attempt to enroll you in solving friend B's
problems. This is a real formula for disaster. Change the
subject immediately and (I strongly suggest) find a more mature
friend. In fact, I think it's wise to always be seeking mature
friends, but as you mature you will find that you draw more
mature beings to you.... less drama and childish silliness.
Let me know how it goes, if you feel so inclined.
Love ya, Jed
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Re: Jed Rand: Helping others... eazy peazy
DIR By: TRN
Date: May 31, 2017, 12:58 am
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Right in time. Thanks
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Re: Jed Rand: Helping others... eazy peazy
DIR By: Bert
Date: May 31, 2017, 2:20 am
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Can we the wise guys on this forum talk about what im doing? I
dont try to help others ( mostly) , I use their perceived issue
(perceived by me) to help me, to prop my path futher up to be
visible and even give them vague vague advice so that i can
dissect it for the reason of why the hell am i saying stuff like
that. That's what I used to do...
Lately... I see some are muuch wiser than me :o. Im at most a
interesting fool in others lives. Not sure how they see me.
So I start out specifically by trying always to get others to
mind my store, use them as a whiteboard to ping my own feelings
off, seeing if they resonate with what my intuition is telling
me. Intuition?? What the hell.
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Re: Jed Rand: Helping others... eazy peazy
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: May 31, 2017, 4:25 am
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Hi Bert:
Thanks for your post and sharing. If something works for you,
then I am all for it.
Sounds to me like you are constantly learning and modelling that
out.. sounds just fine.
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Jed Rand: Helping others... eazy peazy
DIR By: guest89
Date: May 31, 2017, 7:50 am
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Spot-on, Jed.
1 and 2 are the quintessential components of quality (in the
Robert Pirsig sense of the word) therapeutic counselling and
constitute possibly the greatest service you could offer someone
seeking advice of a personal nature. A method to minimise egoic
interference is to make the questions as reflective of the
speaker's own words as possible, to minimise distortion. The art
comes in doing it without overtly parroting their speech.
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Re: Jed Rand: Helping others... eazy peazy
DIR By: Frits
Date: May 31, 2017, 10:43 am
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So? Only ask questions, 'ey? And how does that work for you,
Jed? ::) ;) ;D :P
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Re: Jed Rand: Helping others... eazy peazy
DIR By: guest1293
Date: May 31, 2017, 4:43 pm
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"Helping others" makes me sleepy.
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Re: Jed Rand: Helping others... eazy peazy
DIR By: guest89
Date: May 31, 2017, 7:09 pm
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--- Quote from: j( link ---
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> "Helping others" makes me sleepy.
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Yeah, nothing drains the well faster than the thought of "being
helpful".
I'm more a fan of "...why are we talking?" :)
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Re: Jed Rand: Helping others... eazy peazy
DIR By: know1
Date: May 31, 2017, 7:22 pm
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Well said Jed.
My daughter called yesterday to exclaim that for the first time
she was able to "sit back and watch her crazy mind run through a
myriad of delusions and assumptions without latching onto any
particular one". She was so excited because for the first time
she could see a pathway off of the anti-anxiety and psychotropic
meds her "doctor" had been prescribing.
I listened, whatever she does is perfect, but somehow this
conversation felt just a tad more perfect. ;)
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Re: Jed Rand: Helping others... eazy peazy
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: June 1, 2017, 12:17 am
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Hi Frits:
Maybe I didn't go into another point deeply enough ... when
there is little or no ego the dynamic changes dramatically. With
no ''you'' helping nobody you are free to do what ever arises.
You will find ego-free communications are.... just that, ego
free, and hence of a much different quality. An ego-based
assistance will contain threads of drama which will eventually
metastasize and be a dis-service in the end.
Love ya, Jed
Love ya, Jed.
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