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       Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: February 14, 2017, 4:52 am
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       I appear to be down on meditation and prayer, but not really. I
       am trying to point out what is, in my opinion, the challenge
       with them.
       Almost everyone engages in these activities as a means of
       getting something... get someone, some state of mind, but
       whatever it is, one doing this is spending time in fruitless
       endevours. You are going to get, and lose, many things in your
       human experience: people, loves, etc. in this dream... and when
       it's over you can be sure that you will lose them all because
       they were only an appearance. How else could a dream be. If this
       be Truthish, then why ask. Why spend energy affirming that you
       don't have something by declaring at a deep level that you are
       want of it when it's not even your desire. (de=of the,
       sire=father).
       In my experience, a true desire for something will automatically
       bring it about at some time in the illusory future. However,
       very few of what you think you desire are actually true desires.
       Almost everything you think you want is just a story churning
       over in your head, a story that isn't even yours. It's a meme
       from your  schooling, family, peers, society, advertising, etc.
       (meme=mind virus and it's catching). You think you want things
       that your heart doesn't genuinely desire and then wonder why you
       don't get them (you are obviously a bad and undeserving person)
       or it takes so darn much energy (you are obviously very weak as
       well). And so it goes.. beating oneself up for not meeting
       expectations that are not even yours. Sounds a little silly, but
       I certainly did it once upon a time.
       What if you have only one true desire... to realize your True
       Nature (Truth) and come to the home you never left. In my
       experience all other desire are pretty much insignificant....
       but back to meditation and prayer. What does old Jed recommend.
       Do whatever you want to do but make everything your meditation
       and prayer... by being as aware and conscious as you can in
       every possible moment. Add to that a little trust that what
       needs taking care of will be taken care of... not necessarily
       how you think it should, but always in concert with your true
       desire. Let what is be as it is .... a good mantra should you
       desire to use one.
       Love ya, Jed.
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       Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
   DIR By: Huzefa
       Date: February 14, 2017, 6:17 am
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       Thanks a lot for that, Jed. Very helpful.
       #Post#: 26976--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
   DIR By: guest1170
       Date: February 14, 2017, 10:59 am
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       Cool, another down to earth, illusion level rant talking about
       the illusory world and it's mechanisms... Love those.
       #Post#: 26977--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
   DIR By: DragonTree
       Date: February 14, 2017, 11:21 am
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       Oh perfect! Now instead of sitting down to get the thingy I can
       redirect the sitting down urge as a prompt to do something else
       to get the thingy.
       #Post#: 26978--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: February 14, 2017, 11:49 am
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       Dear DT:
       What thingy do you want to get?
       Love ya, Jed.
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       Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
   DIR By: abrakamowse
       Date: February 14, 2017, 2:20 pm
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       Jed, that is awesome! Thanks for sharing!
       Can I post it on another forums? I think a lot of people need to
       read that!
       :-)
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       Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
   DIR By: abrakamowse
       Date: February 14, 2017, 2:55 pm
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       Jed, what does H/A mean?
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       Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
   DIR By: abrakamowse
       Date: February 14, 2017, 6:22 pm
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       One more question. Is Maya the one who thinks?
       Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
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       Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
   DIR By: alighazi
       Date: February 15, 2017, 12:02 am
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       "being as aware and conscious as you can in every possible
       moment" hmmm... I don't get it Jed, how can I be as conscious as
       I can all the time? I think I already am as conscious as I can
       all the time  ??? :-\
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       Re: Jed Rant: Meditation and prayer... what's up?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: February 15, 2017, 2:00 am
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       Dear Alig: That's just a thought. If you can be .001% more
       conscious/aware with a little effort or change of attention then
       it's not a very accurate thought.
       H/A = human adult(hood)
       There is no ''one'' who thinks. Thinking just happens, like
       perceiving. Maya has many facets and is thus pretty difficult to
       define with a treatise on the subject. She is more of a pattern
       or habit, one that focuses on separation and she does everything
       she can to perpetuate that in others as well.
       Love ya, Jed.
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