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       #Post#: 25621--------------------------------------------------
       Say What Again?
   DIR By: nil
       Date: November 25, 2016, 12:24 pm
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       Hello,
       It took quite a while for me to finally decide to post a
       question. Each time I was about to post a question I sort of
       realized it was moot.
       Yet I feel compelled to ask: is there an end to the "???" state?
       I guess what I'm trying to ask is whether the mind/ego/whatever
       can reach a point when it accepts that there is no
       real/definitive answer to any question that arises in itself.
       Then again, why do I ask? Oh, I'm looking for
       attention/validation/whatever, aren't I? I seem to have
       perpetual brainfarts. Damn!
       #Post#: 25630--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Say What Again?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: November 25, 2016, 7:31 pm
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       Hi there:
       Welcome to the forum. In my experience the mind/Maya/ego doesn't
       really exist so you question does not compute. However, you are
       correct in that mind/Maya/ego is here just to get attention.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 25646--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Say What Again?
   DIR By: nil
       Date: November 26, 2016, 10:21 pm
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       Hello,
       In my experience, the mind/Maya/ego does seem to exist. I guess
       the keyword here is *really* as in "doesn't really exist".
       My ego (I?) got the attention it needed for now. I have no
       question for the time being. But I may again later on.
       Thanks.
       #Post#: 25648--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Say What Again?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: November 26, 2016, 11:10 pm
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       Happy attention getting.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 25708--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Say What Again?
   DIR By: nil
       Date: November 29, 2016, 7:57 pm
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       Do you have any other recommendations besides Ramana and
       Nisargadatta? Or would this instead lead down the path of
       earning a "Ph.D. in waking up"?
       Thanks.
       #Post#: 25714--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Say What Again?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: November 30, 2016, 3:14 am
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       Those two have the highest references that I can give. Now...
       you have to be careful about the Ph.D.
       Do you know what a Ph.D. actually is and the process to get
       one... a real on, not a fake one?
       The challenge with the issue of waking up is that no amount of
       intellectual study of the subject will get you anywhere. Neither
       R. nor N. had anything more that some very basic primary school
       studies.
       I realize you may have been using that term in a somewhat
       exaggerated manner, but it really does raise a point that I want
       to impress upon students. Studying is of very limited value,
       doing is much more useful and, if you can just be, well... not
       much more than that is called for.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 25747--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Say What Again?
   DIR By: nil
       Date: December 1, 2016, 9:22 pm
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       If by "real one" you mean in what you qualify as the dreamstate,
       then yes. And I can tell first hand it doesn't help much.
       So I guess it all boils done to doing instead of studying?
       Students should drop the studying and start the doing?
       Thanks.
       #Post#: 28211--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Say What Again?
   DIR By: nil
       Date: April 23, 2017, 9:25 pm
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       Hello Jed,
       Got an acute case of makyo. Any suggestions?
       Thanks.
       #Post#: 28215--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Say What Again?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: April 24, 2017, 4:14 am
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       Find out who realizes that and the process. No more is required.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 31563--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Say What Again?
   DIR By: nil
       Date: September 11, 2017, 10:54 am
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       Hello Jed,
       I got a question (although probably irrelevant): what is
       "meditation" exactly? How can anything subjective like that be
       taught/shown to somebody else?
       Sorry for the noise.
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