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Sleepwalking
DIR By: alighazi
Date: November 1, 2016, 5:30 am
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I will write a detailed post about my situation later, but at
the meantime I just want to know Jed's thoughts on Vippassana
Meditation technique as this is my practice atm.
I've been recently to a 10 day retreat where I learned about
this. I had some progress and a lot of insight about how stupid
I was acting in life to preserve my ego/self image/pride/honor
etc, multiple times smarter in general.
I don't know how informed you are about the technique but the
basic principle is to sit for extended hours and by focusing on
the sensations on your body, you sharpen your mind and
awareness. While your are in this state the challenge is to
maintain the equanimity of your mind through all the negative or
positive experiences on your body or the dramas that your mind
brings up from your past or future. You practice not responding
with craving to the good sensations of the body or the thoughts
of the mind and also not responding with aversion/hatred with
the unpleasant sensations or thoughts by being aware of the law
of impermanence of all the sensations/thoughts/emotions. this
equanimity translates later into your day to day life. in other
words you exercise seeing things objectively which is the holy
grail IMO.
I know you are against meditation but this sounds very practical
to me. what are your thoughts on this? am I wasting my time? or
is there a more time efficient method to approach my goal? ie.
Human adulthood and higher consciousness.
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Re: Vippassana
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: November 1, 2016, 5:59 am
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Dear A:
Welcome to the forum... now it's reflection time.
1.) Who is doing all this V stuff?
2.) Who wants equanimity?
3.) Who wants a sharper mind and more sensitivity?
4.) blah, blah, blah... fill in more questions if you want.
You are putting lipstick on a pig. Find out who/what you are and
you will have all of those things you seek, and more... with the
added bonus that you won't care any more about it. Of course,
there is nothing wrong with what you describe in that it might
make for a better dream at times, but the dream will always be a
dream until you wake up, and for that... what you describe is
far from optimal. But HEY, what do I know? Do what you do like
your life depended on it.
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Vippassana
DIR By: alighazi
Date: November 1, 2016, 8:39 am
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Thanks for the reply Dear Jed.
The answer to those questions is I. I'm an Illusion I know.
TBH (What do I have to hide from Mr. Jed?) I want to get all
those perks of human adulthood so I can have an easier time with
girls. on some level at least...
#Post#: 24919--------------------------------------------------
Re: Vippassana
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: November 1, 2016, 9:00 am
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Good luck.... :P :P :P
Love ya Jed.
#Post#: 24932--------------------------------------------------
Re: Vippassana
DIR By: alighazi
Date: November 1, 2016, 4:22 pm
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Posting here is a kinda Spiritual Autolysis IMO as I have to
think hard about correctness of what I'm writing here, because I
put Jed in a very high regard and I know he won't take any bs.
and the funny thing is that when I tried to do the SA for my own
sake I didn't have the patience but for other people I have the
patience to do it (ego mechanics of maintaining self image) also
whatever I write turns out to be just mayas word and I have to
delete it and rewrite again and again. I come to realize what
you said in Warfare more and more, that All the thoughts are
just emotions speaking to supports beliefs or rationalize fears
etc and true thinking is something different.
OK back to where we were. I know why you asked those questions
about who does the V stuff and who wants those good qualities
etc. you wanted me to ponder about the self and the nature of
it. but I've done that before I've realized the temporary nature
of it long ago, the fact that it doesn't exist but the illusion
gets recreated in the consciousness that it exists every moment
(for survival?). so I think I'm past that, or in your words I
have killed the dragon and now I want to clean the mess which is
the whole point. I want to extend the duration and the depth of
my realization. I still have a lot of problem making distinction
between what is true wanting and what is ego wanting, when it is
maya who is speaking trough me and when it is true me (until its
very late), although there is no such a thing as true me so is
all the words maya? what about your words jed.
Still emotions hijack a lot of my rationality, although I know
all these and I've realized them in many ways in my life. still
I have desires and I keep convincing myself that its ok to have
desires etc and that's why I picked up meditation and vippassana
specifically to be able to think in a clearer manner, a bit
freer from my fears and wants. so can you elaborate a bit more
on why its far from optimal and what are my other options? some
pointers about the nexts steps would be greatly appreciated.
#Post#: 24949--------------------------------------------------
Re: Vippassana
DIR By: alighazi
Date: November 2, 2016, 4:30 am
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There is another category of thoughts which occupies the mind
(mine at least):
most of the time we are thinking it is actually other peoples
words just repeating in our head, ie. things that we have read,
listened to etc. there is nothing original about it while it may
feel very good as if we are very wise people. I don't think it
leads to any progress at all. or maybe it does, as if by taking
someone's perspective it helps us understand their world view
more. or maybe it just leads to our own misleading, because what
if those words are false? they will turn into our own beliefs as
well as they get repeated in our head. Its hard to think for
oneself.
#Post#: 24954--------------------------------------------------
Re: Vippassana
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: November 2, 2016, 5:51 am
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Please whittle down to one question.
Thanks in advance.
Love ya, Jed.
#Post#: 25011--------------------------------------------------
Re: Vippassana
DIR By: alighazi
Date: November 3, 2016, 4:37 am
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I'm slacking and not committed deep enough to the process. Its
stupid that I don't commit 100%, I feel guilty about living a
life that might be a lie. I need to really start from 0 and come
to something that is true 100% then build everything else on top
of it. I want to start by analyzing the Cogito, seeing if my
mind can accept it on my own (without relying on the fact that
because everyone is accepting it it must be true) handling all
objections that I might have. Then dissect the dialogue in the
first chapter of the theory of everything. I will come to you if
I encountered any road blocks.
#Post#: 25019--------------------------------------------------
Re: Vippassana
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: November 3, 2016, 7:29 am
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See you later...
Love ya, Jed.
#Post#: 25107--------------------------------------------------
Re: Vippassana
DIR By: alighazi
Date: November 5, 2016, 3:53 pm
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I spent the last couple of days listening to spiritual warfare
audio book and also taking some online courses on reasoning and
logic. haven't started the actual SA yet.
In the book you mentioned in order to wake up you need the
emotional energy comparable to the energy a rocket needs to
escape the earths gravity. I don't have that much energy or
desperation that you talk about, I know what you talk about has
some truth to it and I'm just curious to give it a fair trial.
so should I begin with SA or should I begin with just prayer
instead? prayer to have that energy and desperation for waking
up.
Also you mentioned that living with the eyes open (ie.
adulthood) is a whole different state of being. but most of the
qualities you talked about for adulthood, for example releasing
the tiller or manifesting desires, killing our parents etc all
seem totally just like some life skills, which can be mastered
by anyone with proper education and one doesn't need to change
his state of being completely in order to attain them.everyone
with some life experience attains them to some degree whether
one knows it or not.what is your thoughts on this?
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