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Annoying Question Thread ^^
By: R_loling Date: December 10, 2014, 3:22 am
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A thread for those who like me have questions to Zectas.
I don't understand the logic in the sentence:
[Quote]It takes 10 points of Intelligence before the maximum
mana capacity increases. Smoke has estimated that the increase
would be around 12%. Deducting Igniz's 10% symbiosis would mean
that he would still gain 2%.[/Quote](Chapter 7)
If 12% is the total mana capacity increase 10% of that would be
1.2% so 10.8% would be left?
[Quote]Symbiosis:
* With every maximum mana increase, the Dark Ember
Sprite absorbs 10% of that value. [/Quote](Chapter 6)
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Re: Annoying Question Thread ^^
By: No Comment Date: December 10, 2014, 3:57 am
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Ingiz merge took away 10% of the maximum for it to become a
symbiote.
So he has 90% of his normal mana.
Because reading the books gave him intelligence increases, he
has gained about 12% of his original max mana. (each 10
intelligence increases mana)
As such, he has about a net gain of +2% max mana, because of the
extra stats from reading the books.
Now "If 12% is the total mana capacity increase 10% of that
would be 1.2% so 10.8% would be left?", I think it means from
the original standpoint that with the max mana taking away the
10%, the net gain is 2%, as such he has 102% of his maximum
mana, offsetting the mana expended on the sprite.
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Re: Annoying Question Thread ^^
By: R_loling Date: December 10, 2014, 4:36 am
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Sorry didn't quote properly.
If it is in relation to the original amount that would make
sense.
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Re: Annoying Question Thread ^^
By: No Comment Date: December 10, 2014, 4:57 am
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Since he had basically no points in intelligence to begin with,
I'd say that the 10% mana from the increase is negligible at the
start, so not that much to worry about.
Also, since it took 10% to begin with, and 10% of every
increase. He will still only have 90% of the max mana he would
have had to begin with without the sprite, so it's not that bad
to imagine his mana increases.
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Re: Annoying Question Thread ^^
By: johnnest Date: December 10, 2014, 7:20 am
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This has also been brought up before, but the general idea is
that Smoke gains 12% of his existing mana points. 1000 * .12 =
120 but Igniz bypasses this and gets 10% more 1000 *.10 = 100
then the supposed amount of 120 - 100 = 20.
I think the wording that I used is wrong. I'm open to
suggestions on how to improve it, in order to better understand
the logic ???
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Re: Annoying Question Thread ^^
By: No Comment Date: December 10, 2014, 8:02 am
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[quote author=johnnest link=topic=3.msg10#msg10 date=1418217651]
This has also been brought up before, but the general idea is
that Smoke gains 12% of his existing mana points. 1000 * .12 =
120 but Igniz bypasses this and gets 10% more 1000 *.10 = 100
then the supposed amount of 120 - 100 = 20.
I think the wording that I used is wrong. I'm open to
suggestions on how to improve it, in order to better understand
the logic ???
[/quote]
Hmmm, that does sound entirely confusing. From what I understand
of what you just wrote it seems as though Igniz takes more than
10% of the mana increase.
From what I understand Ingiz took 10% of his max mana at the
time, and any increase to max mana is lowered by 10% as well (so
if he gained 100 mana, it would be changed to 90).
Which means that Smoke would always have 90% of his theoretical
max mana.
Perhaps say something like "The symbiotic relationship feeds the
dark ember sprite 10% of Smokes' current max mana and through
[quote]Symbiosis:
With every maximum mana increase, the Dark Ember Sprite
absorbs 10% of the increase[/quote]
He smirked due to the books he had used increased his int stat
enough so his mana pool was a little higher than before (the
drain).
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Re: Annoying Question Thread ^^
By: AidanKyros Date: December 10, 2014, 8:51 am
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You could write it like this:
"The symbiosis with Igniz has cost me 10% of my max mana,
however i noticed that every 10 intelligence points I gain 12%
increase on my max, due to this I still came out ahead by 2%
from the books read."
(Maybe the tone/wording does not sound like Smoke but you should
be able to write something similar.)
It is just confusing as the way the sentence was stated makes it
sound as if you were talking about the cost of symbiosis with
igniz will now reduce smokes max mana every 10 int by 10% of the
max mana, which means smoke will only gain 10.8% max mana per 10
int as igniz is stealing the other 1.2% mana.
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Re: Annoying Question Thread ^^
By: R_loling Date: December 10, 2014, 1:28 pm
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I would change it a little bit but that is just me.
from:
It takes 10 points of Intelligence before the maximum mana
capacity increases. Smoke has estimated that the increase would
be around 12%. Deducting Igniz's 10% symbiosis would mean that
he would still gain 2%.
to:
It takes 10 points of Intelligence before the maximum mana
capacity increases. Smoke has estimated that the increase would
be around 12%. Deducting Igniz's 10% symbiosis would mean that
he would still gain 0.8% after compensating for what he lost
(through symbiosis).
or:
It takes 10 points of Intelligence before the maximum mana
capacity increases. Smoke has estimated that the increase would
be around 12%. Deducting Igniz's 10% symbiosis would mean that
he would still gain around 11%.
(1000 + 12%) - 10% = 1120 - 112 = 1008 (100.8%)
or depending on the logic:
(1000 - 10%) + 12%-(12%*10%) = 900 + 106 - 10.6 = 995.4 (99.54%)
If I haven't gotten confused. ;D
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Re: Annoying Question Thread ^^
By: AidanKyros Date: December 10, 2014, 3:37 pm
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Just to point this out it sounds unbalanced if a symbiote is a
one time cost of 10% of your mana as lower levels or playets
with less mana will use less then someone invested in mana or at
a higher level. It makes more sense for it to be 10% of his max
mana no matter how high it gets. (could also increase igniz
ability)
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Re: Annoying Question Thread ^^
By: GregGillis Date: December 10, 2014, 6:14 pm
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I thought I understood when I read the chapter now I'm confused.
So Ignz gets 10% of total mana available is this the consensus?
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