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Re: Tidwell Family
By: kalico Date: January 3, 2018, 4:10 pm
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Happy you tickled instead of swatted for now....
Thanks for sharing and happy to hear mom is doing better...
Hugs kal
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Re: Tidwell Family
By: Jack Date: January 6, 2018, 5:32 pm
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Up until recently, I never set a specific number on the Tidwell
children, besides the oldest three, and then Lincoln. A lot of
the reason for that is that I barely knew the names of some of
the kids (still don't, honestly), and it's hard to keep that
many kids straight, when I don't see them often. The girls and
younger boys come for the Tribal Party, and when we have
invitational parties including their family, and the older two
girls will sometimes come over on 'female swim' days, but that's
about it. It's mostly about Perry, Evan, and Chas, and about
Linc now as well - my godsons.
Well, i felt it was time to introduce two more. Bo turned 7 back
in November and Royce will be 6 in April (she has a TON of kids
with April birth dates). Curtis (and Connor) both like both of
them, and Curtis asked if they can come to his birthday party
(probably remembered them from the tribal party, and Perry does
let them ride along with him from time to time).
I called to ask this morning, and Chris was just fine with it.
[hr]
When I talked to Chris about his oldest boys, back on the 3rd, I
suggested and he accepted, that they should focus on school for
a bit.
Since the weekend has come, he informed me that he went to their
bedroom this morning.
They started with school work, but he reminded them that Perry
and I have already talked to them. He let them know he was
disappointed they weren't taking it seriously, and reminded them
how important it was, but he said he knew how I was working with
them, and he was happy to leave that to me.
However, the boys have also been letting some chores slide, and
he gave some specific, recent examples. He opened that up and
the three of them talked a bit. Then he talked to them about
Perry, and how Perry has been overseeing them, and helping out
himself and their mom. He reminded them that Perry has punished
them before, and they talked about how Perry might feel about
that, and how he (Chris) felt about punishing them - the
difference between he likes and loves them, but he's their
father, so it's his job.
He left them alone for about thirty minutes to talk about things
and decide how they felt.
When he went back, they both agreed that they deserved
whippings, and they wanted to apologize to Perry. Chas
suggested that if it was really too hard on 'you (Chris) and
Perry, they could skip it." Chris says Even looked like he was
ready to deck Chas, but he (Chris) actually had to fight back a
laugh.
At Chris' suggestion, they got ready for the whipping, then went
and apologized to Perry, then came back. Chris says it wasn't a
barn burner, but both of them did some crying. While Chas is
barely 13, Evan is closing in on 15, and he has more control.
Which is to say, Chas was bawling before Dad got through, but
Evan held on, even though he was crying aloud before the end.
Chris said they didn't do corner time, but they did do their
chores to perfection, and then helped out with some other stuff,
before spending the afternoon with Perry, so it sounds like it
worked out pretty well.
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Re: Tidwell Family
By: db105 Date: January 6, 2018, 9:55 pm
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=99.msg2815#msg2815
date=1515281548]
Chas suggested that if it was really too hard on 'you (Chris)
and Perry, they could skip it."
[/quote]
;D Can't blame a boy for trying.
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Re: Tidwell Family
By: Jack Date: June 20, 2018, 4:21 pm
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Been a while, and today ends up being a good day for a Tidwell
update.
Chris has changed jobs within the same company. He doesn't have
to travel nearly as much as he did, though he does have to
travel some (and is out of town right now).
Mrs. T's health has improved, and she's even staying on the meds
she's been prescribed (as far as I know), including for
depression issues. On the other hand, she doesn't have as much
energy as she once did, and she needs more sleep.
At this point, she has a toddler and a pre-schooler (boy/girl)
at home, and, even with Lincoln (10) at BCA this past year,
she's still home schooling Royce (6), Bo (7), and the three
girls (I believe they're 8, 9, and 12). After having discussed
a couple of things with Chris, he pretty much put his foot down
(after I put my foot down and threatened to treat him the same
way I do his boys when they're stubborn and rebellious... Not
that his boys are ever stubborn and rebellious).
1) As an 'early anniversary gift' to the two of them, I'm going
to have a maid service come in and clean their house when
they're on vacation in a few weeks. She'll hate it, but it'll
catch her up, which should make things much easier.
2) All the kids, except the two youngest, are going to be
attending BCA next year. I paid tuition this past semester for
all 'my boys' (Perry at college, and Evan, Chas, and Linc at
BCA). After getting her medical bills straightened out with the
insurance company, they're going to take those over again next
year. On the other hand, as a foster parent, I get a discount
at the Academy. As a member of a local church, I get a discount
at the Academy. As a teacher there, I receive free tuition.
I've already spoken with Mr. P, and he double-checked with the
trustees, and it's going to be transferred to Bo, Royce, and the
three girls. That'll leave Mrs. T at home with just the two
youngest next year.
Royce will be just fine. He's a sharp little squirt, and I
think he's already mastered what kids are supposed to know
before starting first grade. The problem is that Mrs. T has
fallen behind in home schooling at some point, and they haven't
completed this past years classes, which they'll need to do to
be ready to start in the fall. The situation isn't helped that
we have a short summer this year (school is start two weeks
earlier than in the past). Chris knows it's important, but he's
not sure what can do. We all agree that the kids do need a real
break between this and starting school in August (and they
already have vacation plans). I am considering the idea of
taking over the end of Bo's homeschooling. He knows me, and
with me, Marcus, and Chris taking turns with him, he would
probably have plenty of time to play with his friends, and we
could get him through things. For that matter, it just occurs
to me that, if we did it right, we could probably bring some of
the other kids in to 'play school' and let them earn the weekly
movies that way, which might make things a lot more fun.
Anyway, the reason all this comes up now is that I paddled Evan
and Chas this morning.
Things have been a bit mixed up around their home, since the
four older boys are through with school for the summer, but the
younger kids aren't. Linc, Chas , and Ev have been spending a
lot of time over here, and Perry's been here a fair amount.
With their father out of town this right now, Perry has been
doing more of the house work and trying to cover chores his dad
has recently been doing, and Chas and Evan were supposed to be
supervising the younger kids, while Mom was taking care of
dinner, I think.
Instead of supervising the younger kids, the two older boys
snuck in some extra video game time. The older girls were
downstairs with Mom (doing homework, I think Perry said). When
Perry finished what he was working on, he went to check on the
other kids, and found the little kids unsupervised and having
made a big mess.
Perry broke things up, made sure everyone was okay, separated
out the two youngest kids, stood Lincoln and the youngest girl
(besides the pre-school one) in a corner, sent Bo and Royce to
their room, then tracked down and chewed out Chas and Ev. While
Chas and Evan were cleaning the mess, Perry spanked Lincoln and
the girl, then went back to Chas and Evan, and helped them
finish cleaning up. When things were clean, Perry had Chas and
Ev get cleaned up and 'go to bed' (not to sleep, but they were
confined to their room, which means no TV, games, or anything
like that). They asked if he was going to whup them, and he
replied, "No, but we're going to go see Uncle Jack in the
morning, and you can explain what happened to him."
Perry had called me last night, so I knew what to expect.
Well, the two boys did explain what had happened, and I have to
admit that they were pretty honest about it. Yes, they knew
what they were supposed to be doing. Yes, they understood why.
No, they didn't think about what could have happened. Yes, they
did understand that Pam and Lincoln had already been spanked for
their part in it.
I asked them what they thought they deserved, and they were both
more strict that I was thinking.
Let me pause here to say that the Tidwells, so far, have been
early bloomers and are not small people. At 13, Chas is about
5'7" and maybe 125 or 130 pounds. He's got a solid, lean build,
and hair around his penis, under his arms, and on his legs.
Evan is nearly as tall as Perry - about 6' (slightly taller than
I am), but, despite being hairy enough to even have a happy
trail starting to grow, he's still not real filled out through
the chest and shoulders - probably weighing maybe 160 or 165.
I consider six swats with the medium Lexan to be a pretty
serious paddling, even for an older teen. Both of these boys
were pretty upset with themselves, and we finally decided that
five swats for Chas and 7 for Ev would be fair. Both boys were
dressed to hang out here, wearing sleeveless tees that weren't
especially big on them. They had removed their shoes when they
came in, and now they took off the gym shorts (not sure what
else to call them - they're just generic shorts that fall 2 or 3
inches above their knees) and their jock straps went as well
without me saying anything.
As I've said, both boys were really worked up, and by the time
they'd finished their confession, and I'd chewed them out
(fairly mildly), both of them were nearly in tears. Chas was
crying after the first swat, and screaming before we finished.
Evan managed to control himself after the first swat, but he
yelped at the second, and you could tell he was crying before
the third landed. Like his brother, he was screaming by the
last couple of swats, but I'm sure it was strong emotions with
both of them as much as anything else.
They both cried hard, but they both needed the catharsis.
Honestly, I kind of wish Perry had just brought them over last
night. On the other hand, I think this really made an
impression on them. Either way, while I felt really bad about
it while I was paddling them, afterwards - watching two good
looking, mostly naked teens, with tear-stained faces and very
red rears hugging and apologizing to their big brother and me...
yeah, that was pretty hot --- especially the group hug before
the two of them started dressing.
I did reassure Perry that he did the right thing. While I don't
want to do that type of thing to them, I would rather do it
myself than make him do it.
There's a bit more to this story, but I'll need to come back to
it later.
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Re: Tidwell Family
By: Adric Date: July 6, 2018, 10:11 am
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=99.msg6533#msg6533
date=1529529700]
Perry broke things up, made sure everyone was okay, separated
out the two youngest kids, stood Lincoln and the youngest girl
(besides the pre-school one) in a corner, sent Bo and Royce to
their room, then tracked down and chewed out Chas and Ev. ...
When things were clean, Perry had Chas and Ev get cleaned up and
'go to bed' (not to sleep, but they were confined to their room,
which means no TV, games, or anything like that). They asked if
he was going to whup them, and he replied, "No, but we're going
to go see Uncle Jack in the morning, and you can explain what
happened to him."
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It sounds like Perry does an awful lot of parenting in this
family. Did he ever get to be a kid?
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Re: Tidwell Family
By: Adric Date: July 6, 2018, 10:14 am
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=99.msg6533#msg6533
date=1529529700]
The problem is that Mrs. T has fallen behind in home schooling
at some point, and they haven't completed this past years
classes, which they'll need to do to be ready to start in the
fall.
[/quote]
I'm not surprised. Having her homeschooling her kids does not
seem to be a very practical or desirable arrangement.
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Re: Tidwell Family
By: Jack Date: July 6, 2018, 3:38 pm
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[quote author=Adric link=topic=99.msg6969#msg6969
date=1530889887]
[quote author=Jack link=topic=99.msg6533#msg6533
date=1529529700]
Perry broke things up, made sure everyone was okay, separated
out the two youngest kids, stood Lincoln and the youngest girl
(besides the pre-school one) in a corner, sent Bo and Royce to
their room, then tracked down and chewed out Chas and Ev. ...
When things were clean, Perry had Chas and Ev get cleaned up and
'go to bed' (not to sleep, but they were confined to their room,
which means no TV, games, or anything like that). They asked if
he was going to whup them, and he replied, "No, but we're going
to go see Uncle Jack in the morning, and you can explain what
happened to him."
[/quote]
It sounds like Perry does an awful lot of parenting in this
family. Did he ever get to be a kid?
[/quote]
There is an almost exactly three year difference between Perry
and Evan, and another two years between Ev and Chas. Then
there's only a year before the first girl arrived, which would
have made Perry 6, and I have a feeling that's when he had to
start becoming responsible.
I have known Perry for nearly 5 years now. I was a football
coach for a few days, which is when I first met him, but when
John moved in couple of months later, the two of them became
close, and he and I have been close since then. Perry has
suffered from pretty severe oldest child syndrome as long as
I've known him. All I can say is that I've managed to get Chris
to relax and treat his oldest soon a bit less strictly, and I've
encouraged him to relax and enjoy himself as much as I could.
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Re: Tidwell Family
By: Leti Date: August 2, 2018, 11:54 pm
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How are the Tidwells doing ? Are the girls ready to start BCA ?
:)
LL
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Re: Tidwell Family
By: Jack Date: August 3, 2018, 4:18 am
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Things seem to be going well for them.
I'm not even going to discuss Mrs. T. I cannot wrap my brain
around her worldview, but she seems to be adjusting to how
things are right now, so I guess the councilor she's been seeing
has been helping.
They finally caught up with all last year's classes, so they
were able to enjoy a short summer break, and Chris had a week's
vacation, so they were able to get out and go camping for a few
days and enjoy a change in environment.
Perry is close friends with Jeremy, and he's very happy that J
will not only be here, but that they'll be going to school
together.
He also informs me that, after their paddlings in June, they've
been on really good behavior. They have been over here a lot,
and they've been participating in the summer movie series every
week. Perry says there have been minor slips from both of them
occasionally, but it's only been needing a word to get them back
on track.
Perry does keep me up to date on what's going on, but it
sometimes takes me sitting down with him to get a full sit-rep.
I know Bo and Royce got spanked at least once in July, but it's
kind of vague as to when it happened, and it didn't sound like
anything too major - more like what I give one of the little
guys when a point needs to be made. As for Lincoln, it sounds
like he's been on a run of good behavior.
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Re: Tidwell Family
By: Adric Date: August 3, 2018, 7:50 am
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=99.msg7783#msg7783
date=1533287884]
He also informs me that, after their paddlings in June, they've
been on really good behavior.[/quote]
I'm assuming this "they" refers to Evan and Chas, but the text
doesn't say and he has other brothers to choose from so I could
be mistaken.
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