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PJ Wells (28) and his half-brothers, Ryan (13) and Jake (12)
By: Jack Date: October 11, 2017, 4:50 pm
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PJ (30 May 1989)
Ryan (29 Nov 2004) 7th Grade
Jake (25 Feb 2006) 6th Grade
I had started this this morning, but found that I am missing the
post I felt was most relevant. After stopping to search for it,
i was too sleepy to write it, so I posted a request for help and
went back to bed. No help has appeared, so I'm just going to
paraphrase.
Ryan and Jake are actually pretty good friends, which means they
end up in trouble together more often for things they've done
together than for fighting.
I'm not going to say that they took it well when they realized
how sore moving in with PJ would leave their butts, but they
didn't take it any more badly than most boys take news of an
approaching whupping.
While I knew the boys when they were still living with their
mom, I didn't know them well. After everything that's gone on
the last year or so, I think I've come to know them a lot
better, and it's pretty obvious that, as much as they resent the
corporal punishment when it occurs, they know that PJ is trying
to help and guide them, and that he really cares about them. As
for them, they've both mentioned that they're happy in a
quieter, cleaner, better organized (and better behaved) home
where they know what to expect and what's expected from them.
One of the biggest problems was that they hated having to wait
to get spanked when they were both in trouble.
At one point, when PJ had been catching me up on what was going
on, I wrote
[quote]
The boys hate getting spanked in front of each other. PJ tried
spanking in the bathroom first as a neutral location, but it's
really not large enough. They couldn't keep a chair in there,
it was a pain fetching one every time someone got in trouble,
and Jake managed to hit his head on the bathtub one time, so
that was out.
He then tried giving solo spankings in his bedroom, and duets in
the boys' bedroom, but they really hate being spanked in front
of each other. With as much trouble as they were having, he
felt like that was something he could give them without a
problem. Now, solo spankings are in his bedroom, and if they
both get in trouble, Jake gets spanked in their bedroom, while
Ryan has to wait in PJ's. There have also been complaints from
Ryan about Jake always getting to go first. I've suggested
that, since they are fairly close in age, let them play 'odds
and evens' like the twins once did, but let Ryan know that he'll
be getting extra. I also suggested he buy a jumbo spoon and try
paddling them over the side of the bed, side by side. [/quote]
Another time, I did a BOTD that spelled out the same basic
situation, but after they'd moved out here, when it was just the
three of them.
[quote]About nine months ago, you took in two young young
relatives. You've known them for a while, and you know that
their mother was never very consistent with them - spanking more
often when she got mad at something, than when the boys 'just'
disobeyed or broke the rules. While you dealt with them some
while they lived with her, you weren't around all the time, so
you weren't able to be consistent.
Since moving in with you, you've been very clear about the rules
and expectations, you did listen to the boys and allow them to
have some input. You have strictly enforced them - occasionally
with a short time out or restriction, but more often with a
spanking, which you apply the same way your Dad did/does - with
the boys bare bottom, over your knees, and with a wooden
spatula.
Over the nine months they've been living with you, the two boys
have earned a lot of spankings, but things have been calming
down lately, and the boys are getting better and better about
remembering to follow the rules and obey instructions. Better,
but far from great.
Today the two of them both earned a session, but there is a
recurring problem. Their last spanking was almost three weeks
ago, before they left for camp. The two of them hate being
spanked in front of each other, so you separate them when
they're both in trouble. Last time, Jake got spanked in their
bedroom, while Ryan waited in your bedroom, which is where you
spanked him.
They're not shy. They share a bedroom and a bathroom, and you
often see them walking back and forth naked in front of each
other. Despite that, they don't like watching or being watched
when you spank. However, while Jake is okay with the way you did
it last time (as okay as he is with any spanking, at least),
Ryan hates it. He says it's unfair for him to have to wait every
time.
You've spoken with your dad, who says he spanks youngest to
oldest, because it is hard having to wait. Despite being about
the same size (both boys are still pre-pubescent), Jake is
fifteen months older. Your dad suggest that, if you want to let
Jake go first, just let him know his spanking will be a bit
harder.
Right now, Jake is complaining that he had to wait last time,
and Jake should have to wait this time. However, he also
complains that he shouldn't have to get extra smacks, since the
two boys did the same thing.
Your Dad has also mentioned that the sons of one of his friends,
are also about 15 months apart, and when the two of them got in
trouble together, they had to lay, side by side, across a rolled
sleeping bag, and get paddled that way. It would certainly
eliminate the problem of having to watch each other get it.
So, are you going to try something new, will you stick to the
normal way, or is there something else you can try?[/quote]
It was written from PJ's Point of view, if you didn't guess.
What PJ ended up doing was giving all doubles in his bedroom,
using a backrest pillow
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HTML https://s1.postimg.org/29lq0xjbzj/36671941743478p.jpg[/center].
He turns the pillow so the base faces the end of the bed, and
the boy, who is already bared, climbs or is lifted into place.
Both boys are short enough that there toes barely reach the
ground, and he can either sit or kneel next to them to apply the
Tailblazer or the jumbo spoon. While they complain about being
spanked together, it solves most of the problems. As a matter
of fact, PJ says he was never real comfortable with the boys
over his lap, and so he's started to use this position every
time - double trouble or solo.
As for actual trouble, I think the boys have been doing pretty
well.
Last year, they moved in with him in Nov, but they were able to
stay in the same school. He did implement something like my
homework folders, and they had a bit of trouble with that last
year. They ended up with better grades than they'd been making,
though. This year, with the conclusion of the first six weeks,
they're both making straight As.
PJ was over here yesterday and we spent the afternoon together.
While they have a laundry room at his apartment, I have two big
washers and dryers, and he can basically do almost all their
stuff at one go. With us getting cold weather, he'd wanted to
go through and wash the cool/cold weather clothes before they
were needed, so the boys were supposed to do the regular
laundry. While PJ normally gets a weekend day off, someone was
on vacation last week, so he has to work Saturday and Sunday
both, then worked Monday as well, before being off Tuesday. On
Saturday, the boys came over here after their games, and helped
do the early Halloween decorations. Sunday they did some
chores, but spent a lot of the day juts playing, and didn't get
the laundry done. Monday, the boys were warned to go straight
home and do the laundry, but they're used to it being Scout day,
so came over here.
PJ didn't spank for that, but both of his little brothers are on
zero tolerance over chores for the rest of this week.
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Re: PJ Wells (28) and his half-brothers, Ryan (12) and Jake (11)
By: kalico Date: October 11, 2017, 10:37 pm
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Thanks for the update and I can see allot of You in how Pj is
raising his brothers
....happy things are going good
Hugs kal
#Post#: 801--------------------------------------------------
Re: PJ Wells (28) and his half-brothers, Ryan (12) and Jake (11)
By: Leti Date: October 11, 2017, 11:35 pm
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It is good that Jake and Ryan are settling in and needing less
spankings.
:)
Thanks for sharing.
LL
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Re: PJ Wells (28) and his half-brothers, Ryan (12) and Jake (11)
By: Jack Date: October 12, 2017, 5:46 am
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[quote author=kalico link=topic=88.msg800#msg800
date=1507779463]
Thanks for the update and I can see allot of You in how Pj is
raising his brothers
[/quote]
This really isn't much of a surprise. PJ isn't incredibly
interested in discussing his family, but I have picked up some
details over the years. I do think PJ is something like I am in
how he judges who is or is not family, so the numbers sometimes
vary a bit. Since I've never met them or even talked a lot
about them, that makes it somewhat hard.
I think PJ has two older half-siblings (one bro and one sis)
from his father, whom he never knew well. Then there are the
two early 20s sibs - the boy is in prison now, though expected
to be released soon, and the girl has a small apartment with a
friend of hers and she's going to college (she's the one who
lived with PJ and the boys when they were still in the north
Fort Worth area). That's the man who PJ really remembers from
when he was growing up, and he says the guy was okay, but was
only interested in punishing, not disciplining. I'm not sure
when that guy left, but then Ryan and Jake's dad came along, and
that guy was a total loser. PJ never tried to deny he was a
problem kid, but that guy is the reason PJ was sent to TYC
instead of just being put on probation.
I'm not sure how long he was with his foster family after
leaving TYC, but he lived with me maybe 5 years before going
away to college. I only physically punished him once (before he
even moved in with us), but it seems pretty obvious that I'm the
only father-figure PJ had who was interested in actually raising
kids. I would say I'm happy PJ didn't pick up a lot of bad
habits from those other guys, but he was helping with my younger
kids for years, and he had some private time to get himself
together before he started helping with this family, so Jake and
Ryan are really pretty lucky with the way things worked out.
The two of them do miss their old home and their friends (they
do get to see their mom sometimes), but it seems pretty obvious
that they're much better off here.
One problem that Ryan told me about. He and Kelly Henderson
were walking around, talking, and they passed behind the
apartment where Kelly and his younger brothers live with their
Mom, and, as they went past the bedroom Kelly and his brothers
share, it was obvious someone was getting spanked. He said
Kelly obviously gets spanked too, because he turned so red
(remember, the Henderson boys are fair-haired, Irish decedents
and blatantly look it) and got really embarrassed. Taking mercy
on his friend (who is in the same grade and the two boys are
only a month or so apart in age) and admitted PJ spanks him.
That relaxed him a bit, and they talked about me and PJ and
Kelly's Uncle (dad's brother, with whom he spends a lot of time,
since Dad lives out of state).
Of course, the problem now is that Ryan worries if people can
hear him getting spanked in PJ's room.
#Post#: 1114--------------------------------------------------
Re: PJ Wells (28) and his half-brothers, Ryan (12) and Jake (11)
By: Jack Date: October 26, 2017, 5:03 am
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Ryan and Kenny got spanked yesterday afternoon.
I should say that yesterday was a really nice day - low 70s/23C
- and Ryan, Kenny, and Jake (also 12) had gone riding around.
They passed by Jake's house and saw his mom was home, so they
went in to do/look at something.
It's kind of interesting with this many boys who are all in such
a small span. They're all friends to one degree or another, but
spats happen, and interest shift, and one day the two best
friends are arguing, and the two that wanted nothing to do with
each other are hanging out together. Having said that, these
three and Colt are usually pretty close. I'm happy to see that,
since I was worried about Ryan and Jake fitting in, when all the
other friendships had already been formed.
Anyway, the kids aren't supposed to be at Jake's house, unless
parents are home, so it was okay this time. What wasn't okay was
them losing track of time. Jake was home, but when Kenny called
to say they were on their way, it was already after 6:30. For
most people, it's easier to eat with a sore bottom than when
expecting one, so I escorted them to my office. This didn't
need to be a barn burner, and they knew why they were in
trouble, so I just had them drop pants and shorts to their ankle
and move the back pillows on the couch, then I put them side by
side over the arm. Their arms went around each others
shoulders, and I used a rubber spatula I'd not tried before
(except in test smacks). It's high sting with a bit of thud. I
went slow and methodical, but it didn't take long to have the
two of them crying hard and loud, which I figured was enough for
what was technically a double offense (tardy, and not letting me
know where they were, though I would have let the second one
slide, if they'd been on time). I quit as soon as they went
past soft but constant sobbing, so I feel like it was hard, but
not harsh for the offense.
PJ had had a late day at work. When he came to pick the boys
up, I had a plate of leftovers for him. He sat at the kitchen
counter, and we talked while he ate. I told him they'd got
spanked. It sounds like Ryan and Jake have been doing pretty
well at home and school recently, and he's not concerned over
the kind of slip Ryan had last night, though he agrees they do
need to be reminded it's unacceptable. Then he started talking
about some ladies he likes, and about getting serious.
It wasn't until he left that I realized something. Every time
he addressed me, he called me Dad. I'm not sure I remember him
not calling me Jack, at least some, and I can't even tell you
if/when Dad started becoming common.
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Re: PJ Wells (28) and his half-brothers, Ryan (12) and Jake (11)
By: kalico Date: October 26, 2017, 9:45 am
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Aww that's cool about the the dad thing ....
aww boys......
Hugs kal
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Re: PJ Wells (28) and his half-brothers, Ryan (12) and Jake (11)
By: db105 Date: October 26, 2017, 5:13 pm
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=88.msg1114#msg1114
date=1509012181]
Ryan and Kenny got spanked yesterday afternoon.
I should say that yesterday was a really nice day - low 70s/23C
- and Ryan, Kenny, and Jake (also 12) had gone riding around.
They passed by Jake's house and saw his mom was home, so they
went in to do/look at something.
[/quote]
This Jake is not the same as Ryan's brother, right?
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Re: PJ Wells (28) and his half-brothers, Ryan (12) and Jake (11)
By: Jack Date: October 26, 2017, 5:37 pm
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[quote author=db105 link=topic=88.msg1127#msg1127
date=1509055994]
[quote author=Jack link=topic=88.msg1114#msg1114
date=1509012181]
Ryan and Kenny got spanked yesterday afternoon.
I should say that yesterday was a really nice day - low 70s/23C
- and Ryan, Kenny, and Jake (also 12) had gone riding around.
They passed by Jake's house and saw his mom was home, so they
went in to do/look at something.
[/quote]
This Jake is not the same as Ryan's brother, right?
[/quote]
No, that Jake is 11. Jake (12) is my grand nephew, Jason's
oldest son, and Andy and Ollie's big brother. Jason's family
only lives a few blocks from here, much closer than PJ.
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Re: PJ Wells (28) and his half-brothers, Ryan (12) and Jake (11)
By: Jack Date: December 1, 2017, 7:31 am
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Let me apologize for any confusion because of the recent BOTD
Extra I posted, where Devon got spanked. Wednesday was Ryan's
birthday, not Jake.
I don't have any problem keeping the two boys separate when i
see them. I think my problem comes in talking to them because
Jake Wells (PJ's bro and my 'son') is 11 and will be 12 in
February, but my grand-nephew, Jake Carpenter, is 12 and will be
13 in March.
I didn't notice that until I opened this up to talk about Ryan's
(not Jake's) birthday.
Yes, Ryan's mom did come out to visit him (and Jake) on Monday.
She took both of them out to dinner, though Ryan got to pick the
place. She also took him to Target and let hm pick out a Lego
set, to go along with a couple of video games he'd picked out.
We did Ryan's birthday dinner over here Wednesday night (at PJ's
request). He requested grilled burgers, and it was actually
pretty good weather for that.
Yes, he is having a party of sorts. We're taking them to
Grapevine Mills for Lunar Golf (kind of like black light, neon,
Putt Putt), but we'll feed them there, and they'll have time to
do other stuff.
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Re: PJ Wells (28) and his half-brothers, Ryan (12) and Jake (11)
By: kalico Date: December 1, 2017, 1:10 pm
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Oh how fun and happy birthday to this young man
Enjoy
Hugs kal
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