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#Post#: 8296--------------------------------------------------
School Trouble - Fall 2018
By: Jack Date: August 24, 2018, 3:31 am
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Just over a week into the new school year, I witnessed my first
paddling yesterday.
I've decided to start this thread, rather than including it in
the Spanking Reports, both because of the difference in home and
school discipline, and because there's no personal relationship
between me and most of the boys I mention here.
Yesterday, after my last class, I had gone to the gym to talk to
Marcus as he was about to start lunch. The sixth grade boys
were getting suited out when I got there. About forty kids
changing into gym clothes - very cute. I think there were about
35 boys there, and most of them were in their underclothes when
I came in. Several of them greeted me, which is nice. Most of
them wear boxer briefs, but about half the rest (maybe 8 each?)
were wearing actual boxers, and the rest were wearing briefs.
The cute thing is, you're not allowed to wear boxers in gym - it
has to be something that gives support. The ones in boxers were
stripping down and putting on straps or compression shorts. It
was very cute.
When I got to the office, the receptionist called Mr. Sanders.
Mr. P was on a business call of some type, and Mr. C was with a
student. Mr. Sanders was waiting to paddle a couple of boys,
and asked me to witness.
The two boys were seventh graders. Apparently they'd been
scuffling at the start of lunch and were sent to the office.
I mentioned this in chat yesterday, and there was some
discussion. Someone (I think Zac) mentioned that I've said
before that there are 'three levels of fighting'. I don't
actually remember saying that, unless I included roughhousing.
Roughhousing is basically physical play that a parent would tell
the kid 'take it outside'. It can involve wrestling, but isn't
constrained to just that. At the top end, there's actual
fighting. I would want to look up the definitions in the school
handbook before making an actual determination, but I believe
that scuffling is something that is not play, and includes
physical contact, but hasn't reached the point of throwing blows
and trying to hurt the other person. If I understand the
distinction correctly, there is obviously some judgement
involved and some leeway.
Seventh grade boys at this time of year are probably 12. One
boy was just over 5'. and I'd guess just under 100 pounds. He
was a pretty generic European/American mongrel, with medium
Caucasian skin tone, brown hair, and blue eyes. The other boy
was a couple of inches shorter, a slight bit chubby, and
blondish (I didn't notice his eyes).
Mr. Sanders explained the situation, gave me a chance to ask if
Mr. Sanders was wrong about anything, then announced that he
didn't think it was actual fighting, but there was no question
they'd put their hands on each other in anger, so he wasn't
going to call their parents, but they were each going to get
three swats with their pants down.
I have the feeling it wasn't the first time to hear that for
either boy, because they looked unhappy, but resigned.
The taller boy was wearing pants, the shorter one had shorts.
The clothes were loose enough that, when they undid their belts,
the shorts hit the boy's ankles. A second later, when he'd
unzipped his fly, the pants did the same. The shorter boy was
wearing boxers, but the taller boy had white Fruit of the Loom
briefs.
Mr. Sanders was using a paddle about 18 inches long, I think
maybe 2.5 inches wide, and probably 1/4 inch thick. It might
have been made of maple, but it's hard to tell because of stains
and stuff. It definitely got the boys' attention.
Mr. Sanders had them bend over side by side, leaning against his
desk. He swatted back and forth, and I doubt it took much
longer than a minute for him to finish. He paused only long
enough to make sure each boy was still before giving the next
swat. I couldn't see to be sure, but it looked like he had
pretty good control of where it was landing. Thanks to the boy
wearing briefs, you could see that the last swat focused on the
sit spots and caught just a tiny bit of the upper legs. It was
firm enough that both boys were sobbing after the last swat,
though you could probably have said the smaller boy was crying
softly. Both had damp cheeks.
That was it. They dressed and I signed the paperwork. It was
strongly suggested they shake hands, and either make peace or
stay away from each other, because 'if (they) are back here
again, I will consider it fighting, your parents will be called,
and I think you both know what that will mean.
They both seemed to know exactly what it meant. They shook and
took off, so I left as well.
#Post#: 8303--------------------------------------------------
Re: School Trouble - Fall 2018
By: Zyngaru Date: August 24, 2018, 9:06 am
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I can hear the parents now. (I know the parents were not called)
But in my head I can hear them.
"One week! You could only get through one week, before getting
your bottom paddled!"
#Post#: 8305--------------------------------------------------
Re: School Trouble - Fall 2018
By: Zac Date: August 24, 2018, 10:26 am
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=790.msg8296#msg8296
date=1535099519]
Yesterday, after my last class, I had gone to the gym to talk to
Marcus as he was about to start lunch .... About forty kids
changing into gym clothes ... you're not allowed to wear boxers
in gym - it has to be something that gives support. The ones in
boxers were stripping down and putting on straps or compression
shorts.[/quote]
Could you see, did you notice if jockstraps or compression
shorts were more popular
[quote author=Jack link=topic=790.msg8296#msg8296
date=1535099519]Mr. Sanders was waiting to paddle a couple of
boys...The two boys were seventh graders. Apparently they'd
been scuffling at the start of lunch and were sent to the
office. .... he didn't think it was actual fighting, but there
was no question they'd put their hands on each other in anger,
so he wasn't going to call their parents, but they were each
going to get three swats with their pants down.[/quote]
Taking into accounts from previous school troubles, it would
seem that it is the standard the paddling to be trousers/shorts
down and over underwear for 'scuffling'.
Mr Saunders is one the group of new principals? Do you if this
was his first paddling in the job?
[quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=790.msg8303#msg8303
date=1535119616]
I can hear the parents now. (I know the parents were not called)
But in my head I can hear them.
"One week! You could only get through one week, before getting
your bottom paddled!"
[/quote]
In some cases it might be considered an achievement to get
through the first week, or even past the first day, before the
first paddling.
#Post#: 8311--------------------------------------------------
Re: School Trouble - Fall 2018
By: Jack Date: August 24, 2018, 3:06 pm
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First of all, let me say that Zac made time to do a little
research today, and he shared this with me.
[quote author=Zac link=action=profile;u=17 date=1535104915]
This is the relevant section (with my italics):
[quote]Summer Spankings (2017)
1 Summer Spankings (2017) on Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:59 pm
....
A brief aside: BCA recognizes three types of fighting: horseplay
(which is really just wrestling or play that has escalated
somewhat), scuffling (shoving and pushing), and actual fighting
(involving fists). While those definitions aren't exact and
there can be other factors, Marcus called this
scuffling.....[/quote]
I am sure you have also mentioned 'scuffling' a few other times
a sort of beyond play that has got out of hand but not at the
stage of full on fighting.
I though I had better check my facts.
Z
[/quote]
As to his questions:
1) I was trying not to be too obvious I was checking them out,
so it was hard to be sure. The way the lockers are set up, I
couldn't get a look at everyone at the same time.
2) To be precise, Mr. Sanders is The new principal. The other
three have been employed there for a while. On the other hand,
there were several new teachers hired for this year.
3) I have no idea if he's given other paddlings at BCA so far,
or if this was his first.
As to scuffling - I'm not sure there's really a set policy, but
from what I've seen, pants, but not underwear down does seem to
be the go to for that offense.
#Post#: 8333--------------------------------------------------
Re: School Trouble - Fall 2018
By: jackson Date: August 25, 2018, 9:03 am
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"Mr. Sanders explained the situation, gave me a chance to ask if
Mr. Sanders was wrong about anything, then announced that he
didn't think it was actual fighting, but there was no question
they'd put their hands on each other in anger, so he wasn't
going to call their parents, but they were each going to get
three swats with their pants down."
When you said "gave me a chance to ask if Mr Sanders was wrong
about anything..." did you mean it gave you a chance to ask the
boys if what Mr Sanders said was accurate?
#Post#: 8740--------------------------------------------------
Re: School Trouble - Fall 2018
By: Jack Date: September 11, 2018, 5:17 pm
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The first six-weeks of school is kind of weird this year, since
we started with a half week, then only had four day last week.
However, this is still technically the fifth week of school.
There have been a number of paddlings, but they've really been
pretty run of the mill and weren't anything to excite me to
write about them. Today changed that.
Mr. Sanders was away from school today. He had a meeting in
Dallas to check on some material dealing with Special Needs
Education. Apparently Mr. P was involved in showing around a
family who's considering attending here (which is one of his
major duties). There were two 9th grade boys whom I know (more
or less). Alex Shatterly used to be involved in Cub Scouts,
back when Van was. The other boy is named Dylan Young. Of
course, I know both of them since they're in the same grade as
Colt, so I've been them both around a fair amount the last few
years, though I wouldn't call either of them close friends with
Colt.
The thing is, Dylan was waiting with his dad, and Alex's dad
came in a few seconds after I did. The receptionist had been
expecting me and gave me a note. The two boys had been sent to
the office for fighting, which is why their parents were here.
It explained where both principals were and asked if I can
handle the matter.
I called the four of them into Mr. Sanders office, since he
wasn't expected back to need it.
It seems the two boys have lockers next to each other, and they
have never liked each other. There was a bit of he said/he said
about what the root cause was, but what it boiled down to is
that neither of them was especially polite to the other and
today, Alex shoved Dylan's locker door, which was blocking his
lock, and which caused Dylan to hit his elbow. Dylan then hit
Alex and it was on.
I sent the boys back to the outer office, spoke to the
receptionist, then spoke to both fathers, before calling the
boys back in. I explained that, in order not to show
preference, both boys were doing to have their lockers changed,
so they wouldn't be next to each other.
"See how easy that was? If you'd just asked, we could have
avoided this, couldn't we?"
"Yes, sir."
"But since, instead of asking, you decided to fight, you're both
getting eight swats bare. And that's getting off easy, only
because neither of you has been in trouble for it before."
Both of them were using their eyes to plead with their fathers,
but their fathers had already informed me I shouldn't let them
off easy. From something Mr. Young had said, I'm thinking Dylan
might be in more trouble when he gets home.
I'd already talked it out with the parents, and I put the boys
side by side leaning against the desk. They had to drop pants
to knees (actually they were both wearing shorts, even though we
didn't reach the 80s today), and those hit their ankles. I told
them boxers (they were both wearing boxer briefs - Alex was
wearing a plain, dark blue pair of Hanes, while Dylan was
wearing a green pair of things that had such short legs they
were practically briefs, with nothing on the waist band.
Despite both of them being long term BCA boys, meaning they've
been showering after gym class more than three years, they were
both very shy and hesitant about undressing.
When they were both in position, about a foot from each other, I
started. I knew the basic pattern I was going to use, so I
worked back and forth on them.
Neither of the boys is especially short. About 5'7" for Alex,
and 5'9" for Dylan, though Alex is a bit stockier, so they
probably weigh close to the same. Both of them have lighter
hair, though Dylan is arguably light brown. Dylan has braces
and is moderately cute, while Alex is a bit more average looking
(but far from uncute). Though They're both in the same grade,
Alex didn't seem as mature as Dylan. Alex had less pubic hair,
and almost none under his arms, while Dylan had thick hair under
his arms, and his pubic hair was growing down onto his sac.
Despite that (and considering they both were soft) Alex looked
like he was a bit better hung, since he looked pretty close to
four inches, while Dylan wasn't much longer than two - hopefully
Dylan's a grower.
I started just above the middle of the left cheek for each boy,
working left to right, and placed the third and fourth swats
lower down, but still not on legs. The fifth and sixth swats
were top to bottom, centered on the crack, so almost all
overlap. The boys had yelped a bit at the third and fourth, but
they were getting loud and the fifth and sixth. Then the last
two swats were back to each side, and centered on the sit spots.
The boys yelled at those and they were both crying a bit with
the last one (more heavy sobs than actual, broken crying).
I have to admit, it was a serious paddling, and I'm glad I was
wearing loose pants. Dylan must not have been as shy as Alex,
since he took a moment to rub, while Alex just yanked his boxers
up before rubbing. Both fathers gave their sons a chance to
replace their clothing, while they signed the witness
statements, then they each chewed their own boy out a bit while
I signed return to class passes for them.
#Post#: 8744--------------------------------------------------
Re: School Trouble - Fall 2018
By: db105 Date: September 11, 2018, 8:43 pm
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I hope they don't get extra at home. Sounds like it was enough
to get their attention.
What would have happened if one of the fathers hadn't been
available, and the mother had come instead? Surely they wouldn't
have been bared in front of her?
#Post#: 8748--------------------------------------------------
Re: School Trouble - Fall 2018
By: Jack Date: September 12, 2018, 5:24 am
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[quote author=db105 link=topic=790.msg8744#msg8744
date=1536716614]
What would have happened if one of the fathers hadn't been
available, and the mother had come instead? Surely they wouldn't
have been bared in front of her?
[/quote]
It's hard to say with mothers. Technically, they have the same
rights as fathers. However, being a Christian school, BCA
sidesteps that point (at least with older children) by simply
asserting 'Christian modesty'.
While I don't know if there's a specific policy, I do know
things which have been done in the past. I heard about an
incident that happened in the past (from one of the boys
involved), where two mothers were in the room (for younger
boys), but the mothers watched the boy who wasn't being paddled,
while the boy being paddled was bared and spanked. I know that,
in general, older boys are given more consideration than younger
boys, though I'm not sure how it's defined. I also know that I
have been 'deputized' by more than one mother to witness a bare
paddling for them.
#Post#: 8751--------------------------------------------------
Re: School Trouble - Fall 2018
By: Zyngaru Date: September 12, 2018, 7:50 am
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=790.msg8748#msg8748
date=1536747889]
I also know that I have been 'deputized' by more than one
mother to witness a bare paddling for them.
[/quote]
Deputy Jack.
"Deputy Jack, please report to the office for official
business." Over the intercom. ;D
#Post#: 8752--------------------------------------------------
Re: School Trouble - Fall 2018
By: jackson Date: September 12, 2018, 8:02 am
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What paddle did you use Jack?
Was it the same one Mr Sanders used to paddle those two 7th
graders a few days back?
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