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#Post#: 6495--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: Jack Date: June 19, 2018, 4:29 am
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Glenn and Kline (10 and 11) had a rough time of things Saturday.
Let me start by saying that, when I made up the check list for
camp preparations, I post it to our family web site, and I
e-mail it to some of my friends. It's the same basic list every
year, and it includes things like making sure you have
everything on the list, cleaning your trunk, selecting (and
laundering) the clothes you want to take. The thing is, after
having sent kids to camp for more than 20 years now, I've
learned it's better to let older kids do most of it themselves,
and that it's better to break it down over several days, so it
doesn't seem like such a big deal.
Kline and Glenn (and Paden and Emmet) are over here most of the
day almost every day, especially during the week, since Marcus
is over here helping run things and helping the kids who are
interested in sports. I think it must have been Wednesday,
Kline and Glenn got home late afternoon, and they wanted to go
see some of their friends in that neighborhood, but they needed
to finish their chores, including their camp checklist for the
day, first. They decided to just say they'd done it, then catch
up on it later.
That actually would have worked, except it seems they forgot to
catch up on it, so when Marcia was checking everything Saturday
morning, it became obvious they'd been less than honest... or
obedient.
We were going to see Incredibles 2 at 1:15, but everyone was
meeting here, and we were going to watch the Incredibles, then
eat lunch, before leaving for the theater. Marcia brought Paden
and Emmet over here to do those things. At their house, Marcus
sat down with the boys and let them know they weren't leaving
the house until they were caught up, which means they wouldn't
be watching Incredibles with us, and it was up to them and how
long they took if they got to see I2. The boys were ready to
rush off and get to work, but Marcus stopped them, made sure
they knew he was going to be inspecting before they left, and
assured them they could get started as soon as he finished
wearing them out.
Each boy got a deluxe session with the Tailblazer, and they were
screeching before he finished with them. Afterwards, he sat with
them while they cried themselves out, and then he talked with
them a bit about being responsible and honest, before they got
to work. Marcus also told me it was pretty cute, because their
little rears were a good, solid red, but neither of them felt
like putting underwear on for a while, and so they were taking
care of the rest of their packing while bare from socks to tee
with those red rears peaking out from beneath their shirts.
They ended up having to eat sandwiches on the way to the
theater, but Popop got to play the good guy and make sure they
got soda and pop corn, so the rest of the day went okay for
them.
[hr]
Next month is Marcia and Marcus' anniversary. I don't know what
they're doing for each other, but they're planning to let the
boys know no that day that Marcus has legally adopted them.
Everything's already been clear, and it's already official, so
they're just waiting to tell the boys.
Emmet was a problem, though.
It's not unheard of for an adult sibling to raise a much younger
one, but Emmett's mom is still alive, and he sees Marcia as a
sister. Yes, Marcus handles a lot of Emmet's discipline these
days, but he just doesn't see Marcus as a father. In order to
adopt someone, they're supposed to live with you for six months
or more. While that amount of time is waived in some cases, and
while we got around it completely in Jake and Ryan Tucker's case
(though they do have their own room here), Emmet still has a
parent who has custody of him, and his sister is my
daughter-in-law, unlike PJ.
After a lot of discussion between we four adults, we approached
Emmet with a possible suggestion. We are going to have Emmet's
last name legally changed to Wells, and his mom is going to make
me responsible for him in her will, so if anything happens to
him before he turns 18, I will be responsible for him. Further,
since his dad's not in the picture, we're going to court to have
me named as a non-custodial guardian for him. It won't legally
make me his father, but it will be close enough to him, and it
won't leave him feeling left out of the family.
#Post#: 6499--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: kalico Date: June 19, 2018, 8:22 am
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Congratulations to Marcus on the boys
Congratulations to you and Emmett
Hugs kal
#Post#: 6502--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: Zyngaru Date: June 19, 2018, 11:56 am
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=72.msg6495#msg6495
date=1529400572]
After a lot of discussion between we four adults, we approached
Emmet with a possible suggestion. We are going to have Emmet's
last name legally changed to Wells, and his mom is going to make
me responsible for him in her will, so if anything happens to
him before he turns 18, I will be responsible for him. Further,
since his dad's not in the picture, we're going to court to have
me named as a non-custodial guardian for him. It won't legally
make me his father, but it will be close enough to him, and it
won't leave him feeling left out of the family.
[/quote]
This is a curiosity of mine. Yes I am curious about a large
variety of things.
In the State of Indiana, you cannot inherit children. Yes, you
can put in your Last Will and Testimony that your wishes are for
your children to go to this person or that person, but the
courts here only see that as the parents wishes, not something
legal and binding. In this state all children belong to the
state. Parents only have custody of their children and can lose
their custody any time PCS comes in and decides you are not fit
to have the children. Fit = whatever PCS says it is.
When I read your post I read that Emmet's mom gave you
responsibility of Emmet in her Will. Which like I said in the
above paragraph in my state that is only a "wish" not something
legal and binding. In Texas, is that considered a legal
request.
Then I read that you are going to the courts for a non-custodian
guardianship of Emmet, which would be a legal contract.
The two combined probably would be enough in my state for the
courts to recognize and decide in favor of. Is it a definite
thing in Texas, that the two together is a for sure deal?
Lastly, what would happen if another relative stepped up and
wanted custody of Emmet if his mom passed on. Would that change
her Will and wishes against you taking responsibility for him?
I know you have great lawyers, to figure all that out. Heck you
have adopted more boys than anyone but maybe you can keep count
of.
Like I said, it is a curiosity of mine. I know how PCS and the
Foster system works in my state and how once the system gets a
hold of a child, it is an uphill battle to get them back out of
the system.
#Post#: 6506--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: Jack Date: June 19, 2018, 2:06 pm
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[quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=72.msg6502#msg6502
date=1529427402]
When I read your post I read that Emmet's mom gave you
responsibility of Emmet in her Will. Which like I said in the
above paragraph in my state that is only a "wish" not something
legal and binding. In Texas, is that considered a legal
request.
Lastly, what would happen if another relative stepped up and
wanted custody of Emmet if his mom passed on. Would that change
her Will and wishes against you taking responsibility for him?
[/quote]
Remember that Emmet's father is deceased. That makes his mother
his sole managing conservator. While I'm not 100% certain of
this, my understanding is that the parents have rights to their
children, and the state only has the right to protect the child
when cause is shown. Unless they could show me taking custody
of Emmett was against his best wishes, they'd grant it.
If another relative stepped up, they would have trouble winning.
If it was his sister, it might be a different situation, but
she has already agreed to this approach, so I can't really see
her changing her mind. Also, because he's already 14, Emmett
would be allowed to testify, and his opinion would carry a lot
of weight with most judges.
#Post#: 6507--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: Zyngaru Date: June 19, 2018, 2:21 pm
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So Texas law is somewhat different from Indiana law. Which is a
good thing in my opinion. I think Indiana has too much control
of Hoosiers lives.
Thank you for sharing. You satisfied my curiosity.
#Post#: 6509--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: Jack Date: June 19, 2018, 4:18 pm
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[quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=72.msg6507#msg6507
date=1529436064]
I think Indiana has too much control of Hoosiers lives.
Thank you for sharing. You satisfied my curiosity.
[/quote]
Happy to do so.
And I agree with you - if the idea is that the children belong
to the state and the parents only care for them, that's WAY to
facist for my comfort or peace of mind.
#Post#: 7023--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: Jack Date: July 7, 2018, 4:50 pm
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I wanted to make a couple of announcements on the adoption
front.
I mentioned that the adoption for Marcia's kids was already
approved. I learned last night that the name change and
'authorization agreement' for Emmet have now been approved, and
Em's mom's will has been changed. Also, to head off Zyngaru's
question, there are....
Let me stop to explain a few terms, as defined by Texas law.
From what I can tell, I am Zeke's guardian, but I am Parker's
managing conservator. A guardian is apparently for a young
adult who's not yet able to function. Conservatorship describes
a parent/child relationship involving a minor. In Emmet's case,
his mother is the Sole Managing Conservator, since his father is
dead. Now, she could sign rights over to me, if the judge
decided he could waive the requirement for Em to live with me
for six month. HOWEVER, as far as we've been able to tell so
far, for a non-step-parent to adopt a child requires the current
parent to surrender custody.
Which brings us back to... At this time, she's filed what I
usually just call a temporary guardianship, but is actually
called an Authorization for Non-Parent Care. While it doesn't
give me all the rights of a parent, it does let me do a lot and
take care of pretty much all his needs. Also, when she filled
it out, she was able to leave it in effect even after she passes
- hopefully Em will be an adult by then anyway.
Which then brings us back to my conversation with Marcia last
night.
Marcia and Marcus' anniversary is 29 July. They are going to
take the kids into Arlington for a family trip to Six Flags and
Hurricane Harbor on the 26th and 27th. They'll be coming over
here on the 28th 'to say hi to Popop and everybody', and we'll
be shocked to find that they're the victims of a surprise party
to celebrate their adoption. Emmet's the only one that knows
anything about the process, and he had no idea how long it would
take, so they should all be surprised. The boys will be staying
with me for a couple of days, as Marcia and Marcus have
reservations for the Winstar Casino in Oklahamo, and tickets to
see Amy Schumer in concert.
#Post#: 7025--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: Leti Date: July 7, 2018, 5:04 pm
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Congratulations! to Marcia, Marcus, Emmet, Kline and Glenn and
Paden.
Nice that they will celebrate with a surprise party!!
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#Post#: 7036--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: kalico Date: July 7, 2018, 11:36 pm
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Congratulations all around......
Happy anniversary to the happy couple....
Hugs kal
#Post#: 7563--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: Leti Date: July 25, 2018, 9:35 pm
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How was the party?
Were the kiddies surprised and happy?
Did Marcus and Marcia had a good trip?
Hugs
Leti
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