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Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: Jack Date: October 5, 2017, 5:45 am
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I was able to rescue both pages of Marcus and Marcia, but I
don't think we need to review all the information here and now.
Instead, let me just remind new readers that Marcia and Marcus
met... I think January, and quickly became a serious couple.
They married in July - so a bit more than two months ago.
Besides the two of them and her three sons - Kline (10 and 5th
grade), Glen (9 and 4th grade), and Paden (6 and 1st grade), her
mother (who has some health problems) and her brother, Emmet (13
and 8th grade) also live with them.
The boys were over here most of the summer, and they know how I
run a family. Marcus and their mom were very honest with them,
that she would be turning most of the discipline over to Marcus,
and that he will run things similar to how I do. None of the
boys were excited about spankings (their mom is also a spanker,
but Marcus is still bigger), but they were very glad to have a
father-figure back in their life.
After that, let me just quote a few posts which are relevant to
what I want to discuss today.
[quote]Had a talk with Marcus last night.
Today is four weeks that he's been a married man, and next
Tuesday is there one month 'anniversary'. I'm going to have the
kids that evening, so he and Marcia can enjoy a pleasant,
private meal.
Everyone is moved into the house (Marcus, Marcia, her three
kids, her mom, and Emmet), and they're all comfortable and
happy. The only problem was that their new dryer didn't work,
and they had to get a replacement shipped in, which was a pain.
There have been some growing pains. Marcus is handling almost
all the discipline these days, not just for gender reasons, but
because Marcia works a more traditional job schedule, so Marcus
is home with the guys a lot more. Everyone, including Emmet has
been in trouble since they moved in. Most of it was fairly
standard. I remember that Emmet got a curfew violation again
that ended up with him making a trip over his new
brother-in-laws lap. I'm pretty sure he did not enjoy it, but
between me and Marcus, Em seems to be settling down a lot. He
seems to be very happy to have male authority figures in his
life.
I know Glen and Kline got the same thing. It was one of those
almost funny/kind of sad things. They'd gone exploring and came
in really late. Marcia was upset and worried, but the boys
explained they'd been looking for the elementary school, so they
could play in the field there, but made a wrong turn someplace
and couldn't find their way home. That was accepted as an excuse
with a brief discussion. Then they were late again the very next
day, so the discussion was skin to skin that night.
Paden is not allowed to ride his bike on the street in front of
his house, because it's on a moderate hill (steep for a six year
old). He can ride on the side street (they're on a corner), and
that gives him plenty of room. I'm sure you understand the
problem with that, and Paden and his new Dad had a date with the
plastic flyswatter.
Glen and Kline have actually had two experiences now with their
Dad. They really adore Emmet, and he's usually okay with that.
Now that he's living with them all the time, he wants a bit more
privacy, and the two younger boys have had trouble adjusting to
that idea. While Em seems to have been trying not to cause
trouble, Marcus happened to walk in on them bugging him, which
allowed him to spank them for disobeying (Em was asking them to
leave his room, and they wouldn't do it, which they'd been
instructed to do), without Em having to take the blame for
getting them spanked.
Those two seem to need things explained the hard way before they
have a firm grasp.[/quote]
Zyngaru replied:
[quote] Jack wrote:Glen and Kline have actually had two
experiences now with their Dad. They really adore Emmet, and
he's usually okay with that. Now that he's living with them all
the time, he wants a bit more privacy, and the two younger boys
have had trouble adjusting to that idea. While Em seems to have
been trying not to cause trouble, Marcus happened to walk in on
them bugging him, which allowed him to spank them for disobeying
(Em was asking them to leave his room, and they wouldn't do it,
which they'd been instructed to do), without Em having to take
the blame for getting them spanked.
Those two seem to need things explained the hard way before
they have a firm grasp.
Isn't it funny how some boys only grasp a new idea, by the heat
of skin on skin to their posterior. Learn from the bottom up,
instead of top down. :o [/quote]
Kalico added:
[quote]Happy the new couple are doing good and the kids are
settling even with the little bits of trouble...
Do you think maybe with the older two it might be a case of
seeing how far they can push Marcus and feeling him out now that
he's dad??
Thanks for the update jack[/quote]
To which I responded:
[quote] kalico wrote:Do you think maybe with the older two it
might be a case of seeing how far they can push Marcus and
feeling him out now that he's dad??
Yes, except I would make it 'older three', since I'm pretty sure
that Emmet was for the same reason. I think they were in a new
situation, and they just had to test things a bit. I doubt it
was conscious for any of them, but just checking the water (the
water's fine, but it's pretty hot afterwards!).[/quote]
Then Journey joined the discussion with:
[quote]I'm glad that they're all doing well. Smile Out of
curiosity, do the kids call him "Dad" or by his name? I suppose
Emmet calls him Marcus?
Jack wrote: Marcus is handling almost all the discipline
these days, not just for gender reasons, but because Marcia
works a more traditional job schedule, so Marcus is home with
the guys a lot more.
I suppose that's the benefit of working in a school environment
- you're pretty much at home when the kids are. I always saw a
lot of my mom growing up for the same reason. I'm sorry but I
can't remember - does Marcus coach full-time or does he also
teach classes? How long has he been coaching/teaching?
(You know, it's funny that Marcus is one of the two of your kids
without a bio yet, esp. since you bring him up a lot since he
lives in Bransom! Smile )[/quote]
And, without knowing it, I ended the thread with:
[quote] Journey wrote:I'm glad that they're all doing well.
Smile Out of curiosity, do the kids call him "Dad" or by his
name? I suppose Emmet calls him Marcus?
So far, they're all calling him Marcus. He says Paden has
already called him Dad a couple of times. He's handling it the
same way I do - let them call him what they're comfortable with.
It's pretty funny, because he called me the first time Paden
called him Dad. I think he wasn't quite ready for it.
Journey wrote:
Jack wrote: Marcus is handling almost all the discipline
these days, not just for gender reasons, but because Marcia
works a more traditional job schedule, so Marcus is home with
the guys a lot more.
I suppose that's the benefit of working in a school
environment - you're pretty much at home when the kids are. I
always saw a lot of my mom growing up for the same reason. I'm
sorry but I can't remember - does Marcus coach full-time or does
he also teach classes? How long has he been coaching/teaching?
About half and half, I believe. Not sure how it's going to be
this year, but I'll try to post it when he lets me know.
I'm honestly not sure without looking. He actually fell into the
job by accident. As I recall, he graduated college in 2012, and
came home, deciding to go to school here for his masters. I
think he'd looked for, but not found a job then. The next year,
I want to say he started coaching a year later, and finished up
his masters over the next couple of years.
In other words, this is the start of his fifth year.
It took a while to find it, but the story is told in the thread
Coach Jack.
Journey wrote:(You know, it's funny that Marcus is one of
the two of your kids without a bio yet, esp. since you bring him
up a lot since he lives in Bransom! Smile )
True, but a lot of what's been going on with him has shown up in
other places - like here.[/quote]
To answer something that I forgot to go back to - Marcus is
still teaching about half and half. Most of the teachers
(except Department Heads) teach seven classes a day, including
Marcus. He has the same basic schedule again this year -
athletics, three periods of P.E., and three periods of history -
7th grade Texas History, 8th grade World History, and 9th grade
World Geography.
[hr]
It's been over a month now since I posted to this (38 days,
actually), and an update was demanded by the situation. That's
a total of 66 days since the marriage occurred. some of that
time was (quite literally) a honeymoon period. The last post
was also the last weekend before school started.
From what I can tell, since school started, the three younger
boys (Marcus' step-sons) have been getting spanked almost every
week. Now, that sounds harsh, but when you consider that it's
the first of school, a new house and neighborhood, and a new
Dad, I don't think it's really that bad. It's pretty natural
for boys to check their limits and push things a bit in new
situations, and they have three new situations at the same time.
With Paden, I want to say there was a curfew violation, a chore
spanking, a boundary violation (he met a new friend at the park,
which is in his boundary, and went to that friend's house, which
is out of bounds), one bedtime disagreement, and one direct
disobedience (I think that one had to do with bedtime).
Glen and Kline were about the same, I think. I know that
they've had several together, including one deluxe session
(while Marcus was using his hand, he stayed mostly on the
bottom, but a deluxe session gets more smacks on the legs - like
mine, but without the actual counting) for about their third
curfew violation in two weeks. They had one minor violation,
but kept sneaking out of the corner to tease each other, which
ended up with them starting the corner time fresh, and finishing
it with bare, red bottoms after the third or fourth
warning/re-start. They got one for taking their bikes when they
were grounded from them for not putting them away. They had one
chore spanking, then kind of a second that was about half
chores/half disobedience. They were supposed to clean their
room, but they kept arguing over who'd made what mess, and who
should clean up what, and which toys were who's or who had
gotten out. When Marcus gave them a final warning, they worked
about five minutes, then started arguing about who had mad more
of the mess and that's what they were doing when Marcus came
back, so they finished cleaning with bare, red bottoms (a
refrain for these two, I think), and threat of paddle swats if
they didn't get it done.
Emmet's been better behaved than that, in part, I think, because
he spent more time with me this past summer - including over my
lap. In part just because he's older and has more experience.
As far as I know, Emmet's first spanking had been a matter of
disobedience and disrespect. I think his biggest adjustment is
in living in the larger house with more people. He likes a bit
of quiet, and he was getting tired of being called all the time.
He was used to spending time with his sister and her kids, but
it sounds like he was used to his mom giving him more room, and
losing that started bugging him after a bit. It sounds like he
and Marcia got in an argument. I actually think Emmet was right,
and I told Marcus and Marcia both that (he's 13, and if he wants
some quiet, personal time, he deserves it. They need to let him
know what he needs to get done, and sometimes they just have to
accept there's some truth to the moody teenager thing and let
something slide a bit). The problem was, he got hot and
disrespectful, and when they told him to cool down and go to his
room, he didn't do it. I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't have
spanked for it, but I can also understand them feeling the need
to prevent a pattern this early.
I did tell Emmett that he was also responsible, that he needs to
learn to control his tongue, even if he's right, but also that
he needs to let them know when something is upsetting him before
it explodes. I think all three of them talked it out later and
kind of changed the rules a bit so he'll have a bit more quiet
time - as long as he takes care of things before hand. Also,
Marcia and her mom were supposed to talk so both of them weren't
nagging him about the same things on alternating schedules.
The reason I decided to write this this week is because of
Emmet, though.
Emmet had been keeping up with his chores, but not perfectly.
Sunday morning, he finally got a chore spanking. Marcus has my
basic attitude, which is that they need to be enforced, but
they're not usually a huge issue. He gave Emmet a choice
between hand spanking or boxer swats. Emmet chose hand. Marcus
said it was enough to get some yelps and maybe a couple of
swats, but that was it. Emmet was okay then, but he went out
later and was way pasts a lunch curew when he came back. He's
had curfew trouble before, so Marcus had no doubt about what to
do. Emmet wasn't his normal, reasonably compliant self, though
he didn't actually fight either. Marcus gave him a pretty
standard spanking with the Rd Maple, but Em was having a pretty
hard cry, and he was obviously unhappy the rest of the day.
When he saw me, I asked, and Em had told me that he thought it
totally unfair that he'd gotten spanked twice in one day. Well,
I let him know I disagreed with him. Not doing your chores in
the morning, and getting a stingy, but basically mild spanking
is not a get our of spank free card for the rest of the day.
Em is basically a smart kid, and he's usually fairly honest, so
we were able to talk it out. We looked at a few examples, and
he finally admitted he'd been wrong. Later he apologized to
Marcus and Marcia for being bratty about it.
Overall, the boys have had a sore time of it, but it sounds like
their behavior is improving as they settle in, and I think
everyone is pretty happy with the situation.
#Post#: 625--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: Journey Date: October 5, 2017, 9:15 am
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[quote]Most of the teachers (except Department Heads) teach
seven classes a day, including Marcus. He has the same basic
schedule again this year - athletics, three periods of P.E., and
three periods of history - 7th grade Texas History, 8th grade
World History, and 9th grade World Geography.
[/quote]
Seven classes a day??? :o :o :o Jeez, it's a good thing Marcus
can teach athletics and P.E. If I had to make seven different
lesson plans for each day, I'd lose my mind. (Although I suppose
some teachers get to teach two or three different sections of
the same grade level/subject? Still, I would hate that workload.
Unless your lesson plans aren't super-duper structured? Sorry,
I'm getting carried away - the teacher in me died at the thought
of seven classes. HAHAHA.)
[quote]From what I can tell, since school started, the three
younger boys (Marcus' step-sons) have been getting spanked
almost every week. Now, that sounds harsh, but when you
consider that it's the first of school, a new house and
neighborhood, and a new Dad, I don't think it's really that bad.
It's pretty natural for boys to check their limits and push
things a bit in new situations, and they have three new
situations at the same time. [/quote]
That's true. I should also say that Marcus's family is kinda
reminding me of one of the families Danny/DKellis writes about.
Maybe the one in the series "Warming up to a New Family"? :)
[quote] Em is basically a smart kid, and he's usually fairly
honest, so we were able to talk it out. We looked at a few
examples, and he finally admitted he'd been wrong. Later he
apologized to Marcus and Marcia for being bratty about it.
[/quote]
What do you mean by examples here? Hypothetical situations or
real-life examples? :)
#Post#: 626--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: kalico Date: October 5, 2017, 10:16 am
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Thanks for the update I'm happy they are doing good even with
the soar rough start adjustment period but now maybe things will
settle since they know the boundaries a bit better and just how
far to NOT push...
Hugs kal
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Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: db105 Date: October 6, 2017, 6:17 pm
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A lot of red-bottomed boys in that family, but it seems there's
no serious trouble and things are going well for the most part.
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Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: Jack Date: October 7, 2017, 4:13 am
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[quote author=db105 link=topic=72.msg677#msg677 date=1507331833]
A lot of red-bottomed boys in that family, but it seems there's
no serious trouble and things are going well for the most part.
[/quote]
The thing is, there really weren't many rules changes from what
I've heard. I think what it really came down to was three
things - Marcus convincing Marcia they should formalize a few
things (like chore strikes and an offical list), part of it was
them testing their new family situation, and part of it was just
them being really wound up and excited.
Whatever the cause, Marcus says things seem to be slowing down.
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Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: Zyngaru Date: October 7, 2017, 9:46 am
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It is nice that things are slowing down on the CP front. Giving
the boys time to cool their bottoms down. I am sure the boys
don't want spankings to be the center point of their lives, but
rather the odd event. So hopefully they can get on board with a
schedule, set chores, acceptable behavior standards and etc.
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Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: David M. Katz Date: October 7, 2017, 12:33 pm
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I appreciate the update. I did wonder how things were going.
;D
Our teachers here might be a bit spoiled. Our schools only have
six class periods and each teacher gets one period off for
planning time so they are only responsible for five classes.
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Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: Jack Date: October 7, 2017, 4:47 pm
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I already knew your teachers were already spoiled what with
getting personal days on top of their days off.
We use to have six classes, but moved to 8. I'm not sure how
valuable that is, since we didn't increase the time the kids
were at school - just the number of classes, but....
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Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: Jack Date: April 3, 2018, 4:38 am
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Leti asked how Emmet is doing, so I decided I should do a minor
update.
Emmet's doing okay. He seems like a pretty typical, early teen
(14 until Oct). I mentioned that Marcus paddled Emmmet in
early March. While I never did find out the details of that, I
think the two of them are having troubles deciding what their
exact relationship is. If Emmet had a father, or if he was a
little younger, I don't think it would be a problem. As it is,
I think they just don't fit into easy roles for each other, so
they have to keep adjusting and playing things by ear.
For the most part, everything seems to be going well. The
younger boys are adjusting much better - probably because they
are younger, and Marcus actually is their step-father. They all
love their new house. The bedroom situation seems to be fine
for them. They like having their grandma around, and it seems
much easier on her and on Marcia, not trying to split the
households and care for Emmet.
There's really not a lot going on there. They seem to be
handling everything day to day, and if there's any trouble, they
seem to be dealing with it.
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Re: Kincaid/Wells - Marcus and Marcia and Family
By: kalico Date: April 3, 2018, 11:45 am
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Thanks for the update jack
Happy everything is going good....
Hugs kal
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