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#Post#: 6886--------------------------------------------------
July '18 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: July 4, 2018, 4:40 am
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Spanked an old favorite yesterday evening.
Ian Reasoner (13) was out on the patio when I finished chat last
night. I walked out to hear him screaming at Sam Sutton, Billy
Worley, and my Jake.
I separated them, and no one was really sure what had set Ian
off. And I mean no one - Ian tried to explain it, but I'm not
sure he knows. As far as I can tell, Ian had talked to the boys
about doing a project for this weeks Summer Movie Series with
them, and he decided he wanted to do that this week, but they
were already working on Ryan on their cooking merit badges and
wanted to do the project together next week, and that just hit
him wrong? Whatever it was, I took him aside, then inside.
Allow me two digressions. First, I have been talking about ADHD
a lot lately, because of the nature of the kids I'm teaching
right now. Let's be very clear that almost every boy shows
signs of ADHD at some point. Ian is NOT ADHD, but he is very
energetic and excitable. Two - I hate people using 'time out'
as a punishment, because sometimes a person (kid or adult)
honestly just needs a time out, and when you try to explain that
to a kid who's used to it as a punishment, it's very difficult
to get them to use it to relax.
I'm going to skimp on the details here and just say that Ian and
I went from a situation where he was out of line and needed to
calm down, to one where he was directly disobeying me, and it
happened in about five minutes flat.
One of the problems with so many spankings happening in my
office (and Ian has been spanked there more than once) is that
it's hard to take younger kids there without it seeming like bad
news. I was trying to take him to my bedroom, where he could
splash his face, get a drink, and spend a few minutes calming
down. Instead, he directly defied me, and he did it in front of
a number of witnesses.
We ended up in my office after all.
Ian is several months older than Kenny, and he was bigger than
Kenny for a while, but Kenny passed him up a bit this past year.
He's a lean, good looking kid, and with his hair all mussed
(having not combed it after getting out of the pool), he's
extremely cute. He also has an infectious smile, though he
wasn't using it then.
Once we were alone, and I sat down on the couch, I managed to
get Ian to sit beside me. I let him breath a bit, then we
talked. He's still not sure why he got so mad, since the boys
hadn't promised him they'd do the project, much less when. I
did promise to help him pick something he could do in a couple
of days, and that did seem to relax him.
"Are you gonna give me a whupping?"
I was quiet a minute. Normally direct defiance like that would
almost demand one, but Ian is nearly 14 now, and he hadn't done
anything (else?) really wrong. And honestly, as excitable and
sometimes impulsive as he can be, he hasn't given me trouble in
a long time. Plus, he's a really cute kid, who I really like,
and who has a very round rear, so I wanted to take the
opportunity, which means it was probably not a good idea. My
only concern was would letting him off cause trouble for either
of us with the other kids? I was leaning towards no, but still
thinking, so I asked him, "What do you think?"
"I deserve one," he admitted.
"Why do you deserve one?"
"Because I was mean to the other guys, then I backtalked you and
disobeyed you."
"You know how I spank, Ian," I reminded him, half as a
question.
He nodded.
"And you really think you need one?"
He nodded again and stood up.
I moved to the spanking chair, got the Red Maple, and he came to
me and raised his shirt. He was still wearing (dry now) swim
trunks, so I slid them off. He's definitely adolescent, but
very early. One thing I hadn't noticed when I saw him changing
into his trunks is that he know has two very short little hairs
right above his penis - too cute!
We got him bared and over my lap with no trouble, and I gave him
a slow firm spanking. I know that maple paddle stings a lot,
and he's been used to the belt for a while now, so I'm sure this
was a shock to him. He was crying hard before I finished,
though he never completely broke into bawling and shrieking. He
did do a lot of squirming and kicking though, and I had to pin
his right hand.
Ian is also pretty affectionate physically, and when I started
to help him up, he was more than willing to sit in my lap and
cry on my shoulder for a bit. He wasn't in a hurry to get up
either, so we sat and cuddled for a bit. That's when it came up
that Mike (his big brother) is leaving for college next month.
Mike has a spring birthday, so he's only a couple of months
passed 18, but that's still more than 4 years between the two of
them, and they've never exactly been best friends (as a matter
of fact, they were in trouble more than a few times for picking
on and harassing each other, including over here). However,
it's pretty easy to tell, once he starts talking about it, that
Ian's upset about Mike going away.
It was past time for him to head home by now (his mom had
already called, but his phone was out on the patio, since he'd
been in swim trunks), so Ian called and let her know he was
leaving, but he'd had to get a whupping. He was about that
blunt about it as well.
"No, Ma'am. Uncle Jack hasn't whupped me in a while, but he
still does it really hard."
As soon as he took off (walking his bike), I called her back.
She wasn't too concerned about the spanking, but I did let her
know that I thought Mike's leaving was effecting Ian more than
he was letting on. She had already kind of suspected that, and
they have some family plans for the next month, but she thanked
me for confirming it.
#Post#: 6888--------------------------------------------------
Re: July '18 Spanking Report
By: Zyngaru Date: July 4, 2018, 9:31 am
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Way back in the last century when I had contact with numerous
boys, they would talk with me about anything and everything.
One of the many subjects was about why they did stuff during the
puberty years, that they had no idea why they did them.
As a boy, my dad always asked me "Why I did whatever it was I
did." I almost always answered "I don't know." My dad took
that statement as rebellion or disrespect or something, because
it always made he very mad. "What do you mean you don't know!"
So I have always been sensitive to boys "Not knowing," why they
did something. Many times it was just because it was there and
seemed like a good thing to do at the time. Like jumping
trains. Yes I did that as a boy. But many times, a boy just
doesn't know why, especially as the puberty hormones are raging.
Yes, Ian is probably feeling emotions he doesn't quit understand
about his brother leaving. But that would only be one of many
emotions changing in his life. Let those many emotions surface
at the same time and it becomes emotional overload. Then you
can have an outburst like Ian had happen and not even know why
it happened.
I do find it comforting that Ian, once calmed down, realized he
had done wrong, even if he couldn't say why he did it, and sort
of asked to be spanked. I think that was his way of getting
absolution. Once he was spanked and had his cuddle time to
reassure that he was still loved, it was over for him and he
could move on.
Just sort of rambling here. I tend to put myself into these
situations, thus could be totally off base.
Either way, I love how Ian handled himself after the outburst.
He would be an easy boy to love.
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Re: July '18 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: July 4, 2018, 5:00 pm
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[quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=675.msg6888#msg6888
date=1530714680]
Just sort of rambling here. I tend to put myself into these
situations, thus could be totally off base.
Either way, I love how Ian handled himself after the outburst.
He would be an easy boy to love.
[/quote]
Whether I agree with you or not, I usually enjoy 'hearing' your
thoughts on a matter.
In this case, I agree with you pretty completely.
People forget that adolescents are pretty much having to learn
to deal with emotions all over again, as hormones seem to
amplify everything. Even adults don't always know why they are
upset or why they react to things a certain way.
We talked the other day about 'toxic manhood', and I think boys
are still raised with a certain expectation that they're
supposed to 'tough it out'. I do felt Ian knew he'd screwed up
and felt he needed to pay for it, but I also think he understood
on some level that he needed some catharsis, so he could really
relieve his stress for a while and have a chance to deal with
things better.
#Post#: 6939--------------------------------------------------
Re: July '18 Spanking Report
By: David M. Katz Date: July 5, 2018, 1:50 pm
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=675.msg6895#msg6895
date=1530741605]
People forget that adolescents are pretty much having to learn
to deal with emotions all over again, as hormones seem to
amplify everything.
[/quote]
I love this statement. It is so true. We adults tend to forget
just how hellish this age was.
#Post#: 6967--------------------------------------------------
Re: July '18 Spanking Report
By: Adric Date: July 6, 2018, 9:35 am
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=675.msg6886#msg6886
date=1530697227]
... I was leaning towards no, but still thinking, so I asked
him, "What do you think?"
"I deserve one," he admitted.
"Why do you deserve one?"
"Because I was mean to the other guys, then I backtalked you and
disobeyed you."
"You know how I spank, Ian," I reminded him, half as a
question.
He nodded.
"And you really think you need one?"
He nodded again and stood up.
[/quote]
That's really charming. Such a nice kid.
#Post#: 6982--------------------------------------------------
Re: July '18 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: July 6, 2018, 4:05 pm
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[quote author=Adric link=topic=675.msg6967#msg6967
date=1530887700]
That's really charming. Such a nice kid.
[/quote]
He has a bad habit of leaping before he looks, and sometimes it
ends with him landing over Dad's (or Uncle Jack's) lap - more
often than he'd like - but he really is a sweetheart.
#Post#: 7166--------------------------------------------------
Re: July '18 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: July 11, 2018, 4:43 am
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I did a lot of spanking Monday night.
One of the things I've noticed is that, if I try to cut back on
enforcement of something like chores, there will be some people
who do great with it, but some who just have to keep trying to
find how far is too far. Over this past weekend, I informed the
kids of two things - first, that I expected to get themselves
ready to leave for the campground, and I gave them a list of
what to do and a time to be finished; and second, that they
needed to make sure to be caught up with their chores, and that
I was going to be paying closer attention.
I told Kaden and Devon and especially Leif - for whom chores
have always been a recurring problem - that I was proud of the
good job they've been doing, and that I appreciated how much
their staying on top of things helped me.
Which brings us to the ones who didn't take dad's warning to
heart.
Let me say now that none of these were harsh spankings. This
was a technical, a procedural foul. Still, the boys knew the
rules, and they'd been very specifically warned, so I feel like
they got what they'd asked for.
Curtis and Connor were first. It might be summer, but both of
them still need ten plus hours of sleep. While I don't enforce a
specific bedtime with them, I do make them get ready for bed
around 8pm, simply so I don't have to deal with it if/when they
run out of energy and collapse (and in this heat, they do need
regular baths).
While I had helped them with their packing that morning, they'd
wanted to go play and promised to finish later. When I came in
to make sure they were getting ready for bed, they were
finishing their packing, but hadn't started on their chores,
which put both of them over three strikes.
I got them ready for their bath (i.e. - naked), put them side
by side over Connor's bed, and used the jumbo spoon to give each
of them their age in swats. They were both crying and kicking,
but neither of them broke down. After that, I supervised while
they finished their chores and got them started in their bath.
Kenny and Colt were the hardest ones, because Ridley (Andy's
13-year old) mostly hangs with them and his youngest, Alex,
tends to tag along with Ridley when Adam and Kline aren't
around. I think I got Ridley and Alex diverted to check with
their dad and see what Devon was doing, but Kenny and Colt were
still really embarrassed about getting in trouble while their
cousins were around. However, the two had put off packing until
the last minute, and had done a half-@$$ed job with their
chores, and still hadn't finished packing when I finished with
C&C.
I let them both drop their shorts instead of removing anything
and bend over their desk, side by side. I used the Red Maple to
give them each six solid, school-style swats, which had them
both yelping and sobbing pretty hard, but not outright crying.
Zeke was next, and he was in a bit more trouble than the other
boys. Van has only been gone a couple of weeks so far, but I've
already talked to Zeke a couple of times about keeping up with
his non-animal related chores. Remember, while Van is gone,
Zeke is taking care of most of the animal stuff, dealing with
the rabbits and iguanas and hamsters, as well as doing some care
for the 'family' pets and helping C&C with Rusti and Rascal.
I've relieved him of almost everything else, but he is
responsible for keeping up with his own stuff, which he's been
slacking on.
We talked for a bit, and Zeke knows he screwed up, but he swore
he could do better. We tried to figure out what's wrong. He
doesn't want any of the animal chores taken from him. I
suggested maybe he's spending too much time playing with the
animals and maybe he should get his brothers to help with the
grooming and stuff. He does say he likes doing that by himself,
but he's doing it mostly after dinner, so I think that's the
actual problem. Still, he was at four strikes at that point (or
three and dishes in his room) and he wasn't finished packing.
Zeke handed me his shorts and boxer briefs and went and got the
bath brush. Zeke is still about three inches shorter than me,
and he's actually leaned out since he's been getting proper
nutrition, so he fits nicely over my lap (though not as nice as
Connor or even Kenny). He handed me the brush, and I gave him a
solid dose for a few seconds, then stopped and made him tell me
why keeping up with his chores is important. Then another set
(and he was yelping and starting to sob before I finished this
one), and I made him talk to me a bit about being responsible.
Then I finished him up, and he was crying a little before I
finished.
Zeke is always needy, especially after a spanking, so we spent
some time cuddling before he got up and put his boxer briefs
back on to finish his packing.
The last problem with whom I dealt was Liam. Unlike Zeke,
Kenny, or Colt, Liam actually had finished his chores and done a
good job with them, but he'd barely started packing. I asked
him what I'd told everyone, and he just looked resigned, but he
admitted it.
I thought he was mad at me at first, but he then said something
that I think was very important. "I managed to do good for so
long, and I made myself be on time and stuff, and I don't
understand why I'm being so stupid now!"
I assured him he wasn't being stupid, and that, while I was glad
he'd tried so hard, I was also glad we'd discovered this problem
while we had plenty of time to deal with it, before it screwed
him up at college or work. I think he believed me, and he
certainly seemed relaxed after a few minutes. He hadn't been
crying aloud, but he'd had tears running down his face at first,
so it was easy to tell.
I asked him what we should do now.
"You gotta whup me, don't you?"
"Why do I got to?"
"You told us we had to have it done, and you already whupped
Kenny and Colt, didn't you?"
Gossip - the only thing that travels faster than light speed.
He asked to go get the paddle, instead of me taking him to his
room. I'd kind of planned to use the bath brush, but I told him
he could. He came back with the oval Lexan, then took off his
shorts and boxers, turned his chair and got in position.
I'd planned on 8 swats, since he is 17, and he knew that other
guys had already been spanked. By six swats, he was starting
too lose it - maybe he was still too tight emotionally. I think
sometimes an older kid needs to break down, but I also think
it's pretty embarrassing for them, so I stopped at six.
Liam's kind of hit or miss in how he reacts, but he was pretty
needy that night.
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Re: July '18 Spanking Report
By: Zyngaru Date: July 11, 2018, 7:57 am
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Do you think laxidaziness is a product of summer?
Or maybe boys subconsciously testing boundaries?
Or too much going on at same time?
I know my failings. I am lazy and I put things off
(procrastinate) as long as I can. Once I start something, I do
it to the end, (unless that something is long term) but getting
me started is difficult.
If I was growing up in your household, I would be getting
spanked quite regularly.
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Re: July '18 Spanking Report
By: Adric Date: July 11, 2018, 8:05 am
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=675.msg7166#msg7166
date=1531302202]
I asked him what we should do now.
"You gotta whup me, don't you?"[/quote]
I'm always impressed by this response, the opposite of "begging
for mercy".
[quote author=Jack link=topic=675.msg7166#msg7166
date=1531302202]
He asked to go get the paddle, instead of me taking him to his
room. I'd kind of planned to use the bath brush, but I told him
he could. He came back with the oval Lexan, then took off his
shorts and boxers, turned his chair and got in position.[/quote]
You've probably answered this before but I don't remember. In
what order do you (or more importantly, the boys) rank the
implements that are available?
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Re: July '18 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: July 11, 2018, 12:35 pm
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[quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=675.msg7168#msg7168
date=1531313832]
If I was growing up in your household, I would be getting
spanked quite regularly.
[/quote]
I doubt you would, Z. Either it would be a fixable problem that
we found a way to repair, else we'd know it was a problem, and
we'd adjust for it.
In Liam's current case, neither of us seem to know why he's been
having problems lately, and we're trying to get him help to
learn to deal with, but the only things he's being punished for
are things we know he can do, and that he knows he has to do. I
have dealt with boys having emotional problems and learning
disabilities. I have also dealt with boys just trying to get
away with something. Someone might get a false spanking, but we
usually figure it out if 'misbehavior' is due to real issues and
not bad habits.
[quote author=Adric link=topic=675.msg7169#msg7169
date=1531314348]
[quote author=Jack link=topic=675.msg7166#msg7166
date=1531302202]
He asked to go get the paddle, instead of me taking him to his
room. I'd kind of planned to use the bath brush, but I told him
he could. He came back with the oval Lexan, then took off his
shorts and boxers, turned his chair and got in position.[/quote]
You've probably answered this before but I don't remember. In
what order do you (or more importantly, the boys) rank the
implements that are available?
[/quote]
I can't speak for all the boys. I'm sure the oval and medium
Lexans are worse than the bath brush, but I normally use the two
Lexan paddles school style. The bath brush can be used that
way, but with older boys, it's often used with them over my
knees, spanking style. Therefore, even though the Lexans are
worse on a per swat basis, they're usually preferable (except in
cases of severe misbehavior, when someone might have to get
their age with the medium Lexan, which breaks down pretty much
everyone).
In general, and assuming the way they're commonly used, I'd
guess it's something like this:
Mr. Spanky
Bare Cub
hand
Tailblazer
Novelty Paddle
Jumbo Spoon
Red Maple
Black
hairbrush
leather paddle
Small Lexan
bath brush (used for swats)
Oval Lexan (used for swats)
bath brush (used for spanking)
medium Lexan
Oval Lexan (used for spanking)
Of the things I've commonly used in the last few years, I think
that's pretty accurate. There are things that I've not used
commonly with most of the boys - switch, tawse, rat-tailed strap
- that I just don't have anything on which to judge them.
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