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       #Post#: 5978--------------------------------------------------
       Homework Folders
       By: Jack Date: May 27, 2018, 4:18 am
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       With the end of the school year approaching, grades and homework
       are getting more than normal attention.  In the last week or
       two, I have mentioned those things several times.  In chat the
       other day, it turned out that one member was really confused
       about the homework folders.  I know the old forum had a section
       about this, and I remember discussing it with Journey in depth,
       but the information doesn't seem to be available here, so I
       thought I'd recap it.
       First, let me say that the basic idea was my dad's, and I
       honestly haven't changed it much since he came up with it.
       While I have trouble sorting out a lot of exact details about
       when I was in college, I'm pretty sure this was when Ben was in
       6th grade, which would have made me 20.  Ben had been having a
       lot of trouble keeping up with homework, stuff hadn't been being
       turned in, and Ben had been lying about it.  It only took a
       couple of weeks to fall apart, and I remember Ben got his butt
       torn up.
       I'm not exactly sure when I started using them.  Steve's mom had
       taught him to keep a spiral notebook with him when he went to
       class, and he jotted down notes for things he needed to do, and
       that always worked for him.  I think I first introduced them to
       my kids when Mikell came along, because he was very smart, but
       very disorganized.
       I will tell you know that this is a family thing, not a school
       thing, though many of my boys' teachers know about it, and I
       know it's been passed on to other families.  It's honestly
       pretty easy, and it's a great way to keep up with everything and
       make sure you're not forgetting things.
       You can really use anything, though I prefer a small brad
       notebook with pockets.  You take a peace of paper and date it,
       then write each period down.  When in class, the boy writes down
       homework (if any).  In Ben's case, and something I've done
       before with a few boys, is to have the teacher initial what
       they've written, but that's only when there's trouble.
       First Period Math
       Second Period Reading
       Third Period History
       Fourth Period (Gym)
       Fifth Period Science
       Sixth Period (Art)
       Seventh Period Health
       Eighth Period English
       We've made a simple word doc, and adjust it for each boy.  The
       hardest part is getting the dates correct.  There is supposed to
       be a way to do calculated dates, but because of weekends and
       holidays, it's just easier to do it by hand so far.  We use
       holed printer paper, which is a bit more expensive, but very
       much worth it.  That meant there was just a bit of trial and
       error in adjusting the tabs, and then I can have each boy adjust
       for his own schedule, then we're off to town.  I do have three
       small columns to the right - one for the boy to check when he
       finishes, one to put a grade, and one for the teacher to
       initial.  We rarely bother with the third, and most of the boys
       don't bother with the second.
       As for checking on them, all the schools have online grade books
       of some type these days.  While the software varies a bit, it's
       usually just a case of going to the school's web site, logging
       in, then selecting which of kids I want to check on.  I rarely
       bother to compare the homework folders to the online grade
       books, unless I see a specific problem.  The only reason it's
       hard at all is because of the number of kids on whom I'm
       checking.
       #Post#: 5984--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Homework Folders
       By: Journey Date: May 27, 2018, 9:00 am
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       We did talk about this, Jack, although for some reason, I
       thought we did it in this forum and not the old one.
       I don't think I mentioned this before, but after you explained
       what exactly the homework folders were, I realized that the
       concept wasn't really new to me. During my grade school years,
       each student was required to have a homework notebook. There
       were three columns - one for date assigned, one for the
       instructions, and (I think) one for the submission date.
       I remember some teachers would print out the instructions and
       have the students paste them onto the notebooks. As we got
       older, teachers would get less strict about the homework
       notebooks until they would eventually become optional notebooks
       in late elementary school or in high school (can't remember
       which).
       It's a good habit for kids to develop. Noting down my homework
       in a journal saved me multiple times during my college years.
       #Post#: 5988--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Homework Folders
       By: Jack Date: May 27, 2018, 11:13 am
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       [quote author=Journey link=topic=593.msg5984#msg5984
       date=1527429650]
       It's a good habit for kids to develop. Noting down my homework
       in a journal saved me multiple times during my college years.
       [/quote]
       It's a good habit for most people, honestly.  I keep a doc open
       on my phone where I can jot down reminders of things I need to
       do that don't really fit onto the calendar or alarm.
       #Post#: 5995--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Homework Folders
       By: Zyngaru Date: May 27, 2018, 11:37 am
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       I never worried about homework.  If I got it done at school.
       During free time, homeroom, study hall, library time, then it
       got done, otherwise it didn't get done.  I did not do homework
       at home.
       My philosophy has always been that school is school and home is
       home and never the two should meet.  Kids are in school long
       enough every day to do whatever it is teachers want them to do.
       There is no reason for a kid to have to take schoolwork home to
       interfere with their home life.
       I know.  Teachers hate my philosophy.  So be it.  It is what it
       is.  No adult likes to have to bring their work home with them,
       especially when they are not being paid to do their work at
       home.  Why should it be any different for kids.
       #Post#: 5997--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Homework Folders
       By: Jack Date: May 27, 2018, 11:40 am
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       [quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=593.msg5995#msg5995
       date=1527439028]
       I know.  Teachers hate my philosophy.  So be it.  It is what it
       is.  No adult likes to have to bring their work home with them,
       especially when they are not being paid to do their work at
       home.  Why should it be any different for kids.
       [/quote]
       I should point out first that, it's different for teachers.
       Secondly, I should point out that homework is set so that kids
       can do enough repetition to master a skill.  It is for their
       benefit, unlike an employee, where it's done for the employer's
       benefit.
       Having said that, I think that there was a period when there was
       some mystic benefit seen in homework, or maybe teachers felt
       they had to assign a lot so people (parents and admin) saw that
       they were doign something.  Either way, I think that there is a
       good reason for homework, but I think it needs to be pretty
       limited.
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