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The Lanes
By: Jack Date: May 6, 2018, 9:17 am
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Since Joel is going to basically be joining our family, I
thought I'd share a bit about them that's no longer readily
available. While we will eventually do bio pages on everyone,
it's the 'eventually' that's the important part right now.
Here's what I had to say when I first met the Lanes.
Jack said on 1 August 2012:
[font=arial]Monday, I was in chat, when a kid stuck his head in
my office door.
"Excuse me," he said politely. "Where's the bathroom?"
He'd missed the turn into the kitchen, where there's a little
half bath. I guess the water closet out by the pool was
occupied. I gave him quick directions, and he took off.
I'd never seen the kid before.
He was back yesterday with company. He has three brothers, and
their family just moved in over the ridge, while we were in San
Antonio, I guess. He lives on the same block as Trent, and Trent
had invited them over. The youngest one hasn't been over yet,
but the older three look like the same (cute) kid at different
ages. I'm not sure how old they are, and I'm not even positive I
have the names right, but they were very polite. As they were
getting ready to leave, they thanked me for letting them come
over and feeding them, and asked if they could come back
tomorrow.
It'll be interesting to see if they're here when I get back from
work.[/font]
The next mention was a few days later
Jack said on 5 August 2012:
[font=arial]I first met the Lane's last Monday... kind of. A kid
I didn't know stuck hiss head into my office during chat and
asked where the bathroom was. Since he was in trunks, and his
hair was obviously damp, I assumed he'd been in the pool and
hadn't just wandered in off the street, so I gave him directions
(I think he forgot to go into the kitchen, and my office is
almost straight back from the sun room door).
The next day, he was back again. I wasn't involved in anything
this time, so I got to meet him. At first, I thought he'd been
hunkering down when I talked to him, until I realized that there
are three of them, and they all look like almost identical stair
steps. (There are actually four of them, but the youngest is
only six, and I've not seen him much). Seth is 13, Joel is 11,
and Neil is 8. Each of them can put their chin on top of the
head of the next younger boy without too much effort. The same
is true for the youngest - Danny. All four of them look like
each other a great deal. Seth stands out a bit, but I think
that's mostly because he seems to have just had a growth spurt.
I know his shorts are several inches above his knees, and I'm
guessing that wasn't a fashion choice, because he has that
skinny, drawn look a lot of boys have after a rapid growth
spurt. Oh, and Danny's hair's a bit lighter than his brothers'
dark brown. All of them have very pretty, dark blue eyes (very
close to the same color that runs in my family). All are also
lean. They're not especially athletic, but they are all very
active.
It turns out their family moved in over the ridge about two
weeks ago, while we were in San Antonio. They apparently live on
the same street as Trent and Rose. He was outside shooting some
baskets in the driveway. They saw him and came over to talk. One
of the questions was if there was a rec center anywhere close.
Trent told them they needed to come over to my house. The
directions aren't exactly hard. 'Walk through the park, until
you come to the street on the far side, then turn left and walk
til that street dead ends.'
They showed up here the next day, and they've been here every
day since.
After several visits - I think it was Friday morning - Seth came
in to talk to me when he arrived.
"Hey, Jack."
"Hello, Seth. How's stuff?"
"Cool. You?"
"Pretty cool. What's up?"
"Ummmm..... I just wanted to say thanks for letting us come over
here all the time and everything."
He didn't quite say, 'My mom told me I had to tell you this,'
but it was strongly implied by his tone.
"That's all right. You guys are polite and well-behaved, and you
seem to get along with everyone."
"Yeah, it's great over here. Ummmm... Mom also wanted me to give
you her phone number," he said as he handed me a piece of paper
with a phone number written on it.
"She says if any of us give you any trouble, you should send us
home and call her."
He also left out the 'and she'll make sure we pay for it," but,
once again, it was heavily implied by his tone.
"Thanks," I replied, "but I doubt I'll need it. Like I said, you
guys have been no trouble."
"Yeah," he said thankfully, "but Joel can be a handful
sometimes." I had to struggle not to laugh.
"He can, huh?" Seth nodded.
"Oh, and if you could call Mom, so she can have your number, and
so she knows I told you."
I did smile now.
"I'll do that."
He smiled easily now.
"Thanks."
I did call his mom and we talked a bit.
I'm actually not positive when that was. I know she and I talked
on the phone, and then she did stop by Friday morning, while she
was out running errands.
Their youngest, Danny, has a learning disability and a speech
impediment. From what I've seen in briefly meeting him, it seems
more like he's just very immature and maybe has some impulse
control problems, rather than anything more serious. They
haven't talked about it much. He did stay with us for a while
Friday, while his mom ran errands. He and Kenny and Kenny's
friends seemed to get along okay. They at least did a great job
of tolerating him (and it's not like the Malone and Hathaway
boys don't both have younger sibs at home).
On a related note, when Jill showed up Friday morning, we were
just getting ready for lunch. Some of the boys, including Mike
T, had been playing basketball, and they were cleaning up and
putting on their trunks.
Mike is still one of my shyest boys. He's reached the point
where he doesn't change indoors anymore, but he does one of
those up and down changes, where he grabs his trunks, takes off
his shorts and boxers in a wad, then pulls his trunks on while
he's over. Since he backs up to the hedge, nothing really shows,
and he showers before changing.
When Jill arrived, I stuck my head in the backyard and warned
the kids, "lady in the house." Boy, you should have seen how
Mike panicked. He nearly fell over trying to get his trunks on
as quick as he could. Of course, he wasn't the only one who got
a bit panicky, since my backyard (heck, my whole house) is
normally a female free zone, the boys get used to a certain
comfort level that occasionally goes out the window.
I think part of the reason Jill had stopped by was because she
doubted her kids when they told her what I fed for meals and how
many kids were there. I know she acted surprised that we were
having cold cuts, fruits, and veggies.
"You don't have a lot of junk food? Or sodas?"
I explained my feelings on desserts, junk food, and sodas (not
that you shouldn't have them, but that desserts were limited,
and junk food, including soda, should be a special treat, not a
daily thing). She helped me and Ryan take the stuff out, and was
impressed at the way the kids were eating and drinking sugar
free Kool Aid.
She hadn't planned on leaving Danny, but Seth and I talked her
into it. Because she hadn't planned on leaving him, he didn't
have trunks. I found a pair of Kenny's with a draw string and
asked if he wanted to try them on. He apparently thought it was
a great idea, and stripped down right there in the kitchen. His
brothers wear their trunks when they come over in the morning,
so I don't know if they're shy or not, but this one certainly
isn't!
That went well, but I was a bit surprised when Jill called again
that evening.
Remember that I'd planned to be out of town at least Friday
evening and Saturday, taking the twins to visit their bio
father. Because of that, Kim and Emma had decided to take the
younger kids to see the new Diary of a Wimpy Kid. Most of my
older ones either had dates and/or were going to see Total
Recall. That left me at home by myself for a while, which
happens rarely enough to be very pleasant, though I'd
volunteered to let the kids sleep over here (Kim and Emma don't
mind, but there's a room question when they do more than one age
group at a time).
Jill called right as Kim was picking up the kids. She wanted her
husband and I to meet, and were wondering when would be a good
time.
"Now?"
It worked for them as well.
This time, I'd told Jill to park in the side. I was just
finishing dishes (Noah and Mickey helped before they took off to
meet or pick up the other guys) when they knocked.
I knew I was going to like William as soon as he walked in.
"Hey, Seth. Maybe I should get one of those."
I looked to see him pointing towards the 'Dad's Rules' paddle
that hangs at the end of the cupboard, pointing towards the
utility room door.
"Ha ha," Seth replied, not sending especially believable, but
blushing a very deep red (did I mention that their entire family
is fair skinnned - the boys still blush easily after an entire
summer outside. Oh, and I get to sun screen Seth on a regular
basis - he's willing to do his little bros, but doesn't trust
them to get him completely covered).
I gave William and Jill the entire tour while we talked. We
started in the game room and left the two older boys there. Then
we went to the playroom and left Danny and Neil there. I think
they were pretending to camp out in the big tent.
There's a rumor going around that I just try to get the kids
undressed and cleaned up in hopes that they'll fall asleep
sooner. Of course, the main thing is, I prefer to have them
cleaned up before they fall asleep (pretty important at this
time of year). Then again, when they start protesting, I know
what they really want is a wrestling match, and I'm usually
willing to give it to them.
Drake had already starting undressing when I told them to, so he
was down to just his tighty whites when the wrestling really got
under way.
Drake is pretty smart, I was on the side of the bed, trying to
keep a couple of them from pinning me, and tickling Gordy at the
same time. Drake snuck around to the other side of the bed, and,
when I sat up, he jumped on my back, wrapping his arms around my
neck.
Unfortunately for him, my arms are very long compared to his,
and I was able to grab him. He ended up over my lap... In just
his briefs.
You can imagine that I couldn't resist giving a couple of
smacks. "No spanking! No spanking!" He protested. So I didn't. I
tickled.
I looked up and Seth was just standing there watching. He was
barefoot and had his t-shirt off, wearing just his khaki shorts,
with the waistband of what was obviously boxer briefs sticking
out. He looked a bit stunned. I'm wondering if he's not used to
his dad rough housing, surprised by how... evenly? I treat all
the boys, or stunned that they considered spanking part of play.
When I let Drake escape, he seemed to get into it. When I warned
of spankings for anyone who wasn't ready for bed at the count of
three, he took me seriously. He also blushed very deeply when I
took Gordy's shorts off him (basketball shorts, not undies),
then put him otk for a few stingoors.
Then again, maybe he was just surprised at how many of my guys
still wear tighty whites at 12 and 13.
Anyway, I really do like the new guys. They're definitely boys,
but their still nice guys and pretty well mannered. They really
do fit into my group, though I haven't had a chance to get to
know them well enough to know how much their interests overlap
with ours (except that Joel is definitely into YuGiOh cards and
is at least interested i comics). While you never know if
they'll be staying around or not, I sure hope they do.---> Seth
is in band (what's the proper term? Band geek?), and he's really
fitting in with Bryce, but also with Palmer and the twins. He
also seems to be hitting it off very well with Riley, and he
gets along with Rory and Drake. Basically, all the middle school
kids get along with him just fine.
They're actually coming over for lunch today, so they can meet
the Dugans - I'm actually expecting them any minute now.[/font]
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Re: The Lanes
By: Jack Date: May 6, 2018, 10:28 am
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(Leti says the quote function is too small to be easily read
here, so I tried something a bit different - I hope it's legible
for you all.)
William and Jill are both good friends since they've lived here.
While they're not into fantasy, they enjoy cards, dominoes, and
generic board games, as well as old movies, so our families have
spent a fair amount of time together. Also, Jill is a
librarian, so we often talk books and reading.
Seth Lane - Seth is a geek, and he's never tried to deny it.
He's a college freshman this year. I haven't seen him since
Chritmas, but he and I had a good relationship. He isn't great
looking for several reasons (he's always been too thin, his face
isn't symmetrical in a couple of places, and he likes
hairstyles that don't suit his face), but he's not ugly, and
he's really nice. As much as Seth hates whuppings, he knows I
love him, and that I won't him to do good and well, and he's
always been more or less accepting of when I do use CP with him
- and he's another boy who'd probably accept it if I told him he
had it coming.
Seth is one of Bryce's best friends, and the two of them were
sexually active for many years. Seth is shy and awkward, but I
think he's mostly straight.
Seth is musically talented, and he plays a variety of
instruments - tuba and sousaphone mostly, and he's hoping to
make his college's marching band next season. He also plays
trumpet and harmonica. And, wanting to get away from brass
(though I think harmonica is actually a reed instrument). In
the last e-mail I received from him, he mentioned he's still
playing guitar, and hopes he can work for me a bit because he
wants to upgrade.
Joel Lane - It's kind of surprising to me that Joel is moving in
here. Joel is the Lane boy with whom I had the most problems.
Of course, there are a couple of reasons for that, and I
honestly believe he's outgrown them both. First, he was kind of
a jerk to his big brother. I understand that sibling rivalry is
really fairly common, but Joel doesn't have the same problems
Seth has - like Seth, he's a fairly talented musician, but he's
also better looking, and not as socially awkward. Worst was a
few years ago, when Seth was trying to help his little brother
out with 'adolescent things', and they realilzed that Joel was
also better hung than his [s]big[/s] older brother. Some
teasing occurred, and Seth was really hurt.
Thinking about it, the other wasn't really much of a problem.
Joel went through a stage where he was really talking back. I
try not to make a big deal about 'attitude', but Joel was
verbalizing, and he just didn't know when to drop it. His
parents finally came up with a variation on my 'three strikes'
plan, and Joel and his brothers went through a rather sore
period of time trying to learn from their mistakes. I was the
target of his mouth a few times, but I never bore the brunt like
his parents did. On the other hand, it gave me an excuse to
spank a handsome, mid-teen, so I really can't complain.
Joel came back over last night, and we talked some details. He
knows how I treat my older boys, and he expects to be treated
the same. He. his father, and I discussed it, and I'm going to
have full parental rights over him until he turns 18, but he's
already agreed to continue to accept my rules like the other HS
boys do after that. He knows that I mostly give them some
input, but that if I feel he needs to be grounded, or if I feel
CP is the best alternative, he's agreed to accept my decision.
Last night was him asking a few specific questions he's thought
of, like how going out after football games effects curfew. I
think he left pretty happy, since I listened to his thoughts and
considered his input.
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Re: The Lanes
By: Adric Date: May 6, 2018, 11:12 am
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I was curious about their ages. It appears that Seth is 18-19,
Joel is 16-17, Neil is 13-14, and Danny is 11-12.
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Re: The Lanes
By: Jack Date: May 6, 2018, 3:52 pm
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[quote author=Adric link=topic=552.msg5552#msg5552
date=1525623158]
I was curious about their ages. It appears that Seth is 18-19,
Joel is 16-17, Neil is 13-14, and Danny is 11-12.
[/quote]
I can't reel off their birthdays (I can't even reel off all my
own kids birthdays anymore), but I'm almost positive that Seth
is now 19, I know Joel is 17, because a discussion of his 18th
birthday came up yesterday, I believe Neil is about to turn 14,
and Danny is 12.
Daniel - yes, he's younger than Neil, but I have a reason for
doing him next. Daniel has some emotional and learning
disabilities. It's hard to describe, because it isn't really a
major problem. He matured slowly, and he has trouble learning
'normally', and he has some impulse control issues.
Because of his issues, his parents have rarely spanked Danny (I
never have). My understanding and belief is, on the rare
occasions they do spank him, it's only for direct disobedience,
when they're sure he understood. Lesser spankings have also
occurred for dangerous behavior.
Danny's big brothers all adore him (sometimes it seems like the
only thing on which they can agree), and they understand his
situation, so the fact that he gets spanked a lot less than they
did/do doesn't bother them.
Neil - I have never been as close with Neil as I am with Seth,
or even with Joel. I think a lot of that is because Kenny
wasn't around when the Lanes first moved here, so Neil ended up
making other friends, and tended not to hang out here as much as
the older boys did. While he and Kenny did become good
friends, and he's even closer with Colt, I do think it had an
effect on things.
Danny and Neil are best friends. Neil is much closer to Danny's
age than he is Joel's. Because of that, and because of Danny's
special status, Neil sometimes gets treated as the baby. I've
heard both Seth and Joel say that he gets away with murder.
While the parents rarely talk details of spanking, things I've
heard suggest that Neil is still spanked like a younger boy.
While he is now adolescent, he is also something of a mama's
boy, so I'm not sure how much it bothers him.
I haven't seen Danny and Neil since this decision was made, but
their Dad says they're both okay. After Seth went away for
college, and they'd dealt with that, they realized Joel would
probably be going away soon as well, so they had probably
already started adopting. And since the two of them are best
friends, and since Neil was already going to be making the
change to college (and since he has three cousins about his age
back home), it sounds like they'll be much more comfortable than
Joel would have been.
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Re: The Lanes
By: Jack Date: May 27, 2018, 4:34 am
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It looks like we have a schedule, so I thought I'd share.
The Lane boys normally go back to their familly home, usually
right after Father's Day (the same time my own kids are leaving
for camp). They spend a week visiting some grandparents and
cousins, then spend two weeks at camp (or maybe it's two weeks
visiting relatives and a week for camp). Then they come back
here.
Seth is in college now. He's going to college in that area, so
he'll be staying here and working, as well as helping his
parents prep for the move.
It's been decided that Niel and Daniel are going to say their
good byes before Father's Day. After summer camp, they'll stay
with some cousins for a bit longer. Joel is going to go to
summer camp. There was a lot of discussion, but it was finally
decided that he's also going to stay with relatives.
Part of his promotion including moving expenses for this, so
they're hiring a moving company. Joel, Niel, and Daniel are
going to pack up their belongings over the next couple of weeks.
Well, Joel will actually be transferring his stuff over here.
I designed big closets when we built this house, and with Joel
gone for several weeks, we'll have plenty of time to get things
moved around before he gets back.
The Lane's are planning to leave the 24th or 25th of next month,
and I'm going to host a party for them the 22nd (but not
organizing - I get to leave that to Kim Malone and Traci
Marchant are going to handle the actual planning. Jill will be
flying out, so she can handle any details that the house needs,
and to be sure someone is there when the movers arrive. Seth
and William are going to drive.
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Re: The Lanes
By: Jack Date: July 2, 2018, 4:21 am
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Thought it was about time I updated this. I've personally had
so much going on this summer, and what time I've had has been
spent trying to keep up with the various kids and situations
just outside my family.
We really had two 'good byes' for the Lanes. One was for the
younger boys, before all my kids left for camp, which was about
the same time the younger two Lane boys left to make their usual
visit to relatives and summer camp. The second was to the rest
of the family a couple of weeks ago. We basically had a party
split between the park and my backyard, and William, Jill, Seth,
and Joel were the guests of honor. They had become close with
most of my adult friends in this area - the Malones, Marchants,
Dugans, Lichts, and a couple of other families, so we had a nice
crowd to see them off.
I do know that Seth and Bryce were able to spend a couple of
days together, and I've promised Seth that he just needs to let
me know, and he can come visit us between semesters. He was
annoying at times, but I know he and Bryce love each other a
lot, and I'm pretty darned fond of him myself.
A couple of days later, the movers had packed them up, and they
hit the road. Jill already has a job, but she doesn't have to
start until August (school librarian, remember), and William was
taking some vacation time, combined with the time they were
giving him to move, so they were able to make a somewhat
leisurely drive.
That's about it. Apparently they got moved in just fine, and
William called last night. He starts back to work next week
(the offices are closed Wednesday, so everyone thought it better
to start on the 9th). We did talk about Joel, and he joined us
on the phone a bit. He doesn't start band practice until 6
August, but I want him here a week before that, so he can get
settled in and adjusted in a lower stress environment. The two
of them were going to talk it over with Jill and make his flight
reservations, but I think he'll probably get here a few days
before that, since he and his friends want a couple of days free
to do the typical teen-summer stuff.
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Re: The Lanes
By: kalico Date: July 2, 2018, 11:40 am
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That’s great that they got all mine bed in and all is well .....
Sounds like a great plan to have him m come a bit early and
settle in and to get some friends time before school
Hugs kal
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Re: The Lanes
By: Jack Date: July 2, 2018, 2:06 pm
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[quote author=kalico link=topic=552.msg6829#msg6829
date=1530549623]
Sounds like a great plan to have him m come a bit early and
settle in and to get some friends time before school
[/quote]
I understand that he wants as much time with his family as he
can get (or that his parents want as much time with him as they
can get), but he does need a chance to get moved in and make
adjustments in a low stress situation.
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Re: The Lanes
By: Leti Date: July 2, 2018, 10:30 pm
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Good that the Lanes could move with out a hurry. It is also
important for Joel to get installed before school starts.
Hugs
Leti
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Re: The Lanes
By: Leti Date: August 2, 2018, 11:45 pm
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When will Joel arrive to your house?
:)
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