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       Garret Riley
       By: Jack Date: September 27, 2017, 3:15 pm
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       Garret is a new employee of mine, but a very interesting case.
       I first met Garret when he was twelve, when I caught him and his
       older brother shoplifting.
       Allow me to digress for a moment.
       I can't tell you how many shoplifters I've spanked over the
       years.  As best I can remember, the first time was in February
       1982 (
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  HTML http://www.bransomtx.com/firstcatch.html).
       There weren't many
       back then (I didn't have as much experience catching shoplifters
       and was much more tentative about things like that).  I think it
       peaked in the 90s, when I was working full time at the stores
       and had many more kids hanging around because of the gaming
       tournaments.  Things slowed down in the 2000s.  I think there
       were many reasons for that, but at least part of it was I was
       spending more time in the office or at home and less in the
       stores.  These days, the situation is such that I dont' think
       it's be worth trying.
       The point is, however, that over a period of 20 or 25 years, I
       caught many shoplifters - strip searched some, spanked some,
       just talked to some, and on some I did call the police or their
       parents.  Some of them were very special to me for one reason or
       another and I think I remember what happened pretty accurately,
       while others probably run together.  It's often hard to keep
       details straight even without the kind of overlap these more or
       less anonymous spankings have (and add to that the number of
       pure fiction stories with similar concepts, and...)
       [hr]
       I did not recognize Garret when he introduced himself to me
       recently (maybe a month ago).
       He happened to catch me at the store and asked if he could talk
       to me.  I'm almost always happy to talk to customers, and when I
       saw Garret, I was happier.  Barret's about average height, I
       think - about 5'8" or 9".  He's built lean, but not quite
       slender.  He's blond, with bluish-green eyes, and he wears Buddy
       Hollly glasses - the black frames work for his face, though they
       wash out his complexion a bit.
       We talked for a bit in general.  At first he told me that he'd
       been a customer when he was younger.  He finally said, "You
       don't remember me, do you?"
       "I'm afraid not.  I've had a lot of customers over the years,
       and..."  I finished with a shrug.
       Then he reminded me that I'd caught him and his big brother
       shoplifting, and that made things click.
       This would have been over 9 years ago, when Van was still in
       kindergarten.  This has actually been a recurring memory/fantasy
       for me, and I can only say that he's changed a lot from when he
       was 12.
       (You see, there's a problem right there.  Garret is not going to
       be 21 until next month, so either he was only 11 when this
       happened, or it happened during the fall, when Van was in first
       grade, rather than in the spring.  I'll have to see if I can
       find a way to ask Garret what he remembers).
       Whenever it happened, I remember Garret as being 12, and his big
       brother as 14.  If you've never done retail, I can assure you
       there are certain moves that most inexperienced shoplifters do.
       I have actually caught shoplifters because I was just walking by
       and saw one of those behaviors, which led me to circle around
       and watch more carefully.  Garret and his brother were doing
       several of those, then headed upstairs to the game rooms.  I
       gave them a lead, then quietly followed them up, catching them
       in the act.
       It turns out that both boys had been in trouble for shoplifting
       in the past few months, and the big brother was actually on
       probation for it, so they were both very agreeable to anything
       that kept this between us.  A few minutes later, I had them in
       my office, both naked, and standing there while I searched their
       clothes.  They both knew that, as long as I didn't find anything
       else, they were getting spanked.  Garret was very upset, though
       his brother seemed pretty complacent.
       I made sure we all understood the deal - spanking or police was
       their choice, and they agreed and chose spanking.
       Considering not only that they were shoplifting, but that they'd
       done it before, and thus were in no place to complain, Garret
       got the hair brush and his big brother got the bath brush.  I
       won't try to pretend that I remember all the details, but Garret
       was looking very nervous as I presented the implements. His
       brother was trying to look complacent about the whole thing.
       Then I spanked Garret, and I wore him out - he was bawling and
       shrieking before I finished, hanging over my lap like a limp
       wash cloth.  Big brother was quite a bit less sure of himself
       when his turn came.  I actually had to take the swats a bit
       easier with big brother, so I could drag it out as long as
       Garret's had been.  On the other hand, I remember Garret
       watching his brother get it with a mix of awe, schadenfreude,
       and maybe just a hint of something more.
       After they'd settled down, cleaned up, and dressed, Garret
       lagged behind a moment to ask if he could still come in.  I told
       him I could, but my employees would know he was a shoplifter.
       (End of part one).
       #Post#: 472--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Garret Riley
       By: db105 Date: September 27, 2017, 5:55 pm
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       Very cool that he ends up working at the same comic store where
       he once shoplifted. Rehabilitation and re-integration in society
       :D
       It's certainly not the first similar situation for you. I
       remember a couple of stories about shoplifters at your store.
       [quote author=Jack link=topic=53.msg467#msg467 date=1506543313]
       Considering not only that they were shoplifting, but that they'd
       done it before,
       [/quote]
       Did they admit that it wasn't their first time? Not a wise
       policy, under the circumstances. It might have made you decide
       to call the police and/or parents.
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       Re: Garret Riley
       By: David M. Katz Date: September 28, 2017, 2:10 pm
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       At least you know he'll follow your rules or, rather, how you
       deal with those who don't.   ;D
       #Post#: 708--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Garret Riley
       By: Zyngaru Date: October 7, 2017, 7:37 pm
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       When I read this, I immediately connected to the story that Jack
       and Crimsonhide wrote together.  I don't remember it's name
       right now, and didn't go look it up to put a link, but it is for
       sure from this story about Garret and his brother, although if I
       remember right there was only one shoplifter in the
       Jack/Crimsonhide story.
       It is actually the story that enticed me to write with
       Crimsonhide.
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       Re: Garret Riley
       By: Adric Date: October 7, 2017, 10:21 pm
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       It was Robbie's New Uncle - Robbie Goes Shopping
  HTML http://www.malespank.net/viewStory.php?id=17847,
       and it does
       sound similar to this event.  According to Jack, a number of
       other shoplifters have been dealt with creatively in his stores.
       #Post#: 719--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Garret Riley
       By: Jack Date: October 8, 2017, 6:56 am
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       I think I was 16 the first time I caught and spanked a
       shoplifter in a comic store.  It happened a lot in the 90s, when
       comics were huge, and when I was working the store every day.
       These days, and for quite a few years now, I've been becoming
       more and more hesitant about doing anything like that.  While
       I'm sure there are still kids who would rather their parents not
       find out (and who would no doubt face a spanking just as bad or
       worse at home),  we seem to be in a witch hunt mentality these
       days that just makes it too risky (or maybe I'm just much more
       mature than I was even 10 years ago, and realize all the risks
       involved now).
       So far, Garret is doing a good job, and Dean has been taking
       time to show him some of the jobs that can be done around the
       warehouse while having no knowledge of comics.
       #Post#: 808--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Garret Riley
       By: David M. Katz Date: October 12, 2017, 3:01 pm
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       Jack, it is likely the wisdom which comes with maturity.
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       Re: Garret Riley
       By: Jack Date: November 6, 2017, 4:43 am
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       I never did come back and add a part 2 to this, though the part
       two wasn't going to be as relevant.    Garret has shared with me
       how his big brother was leading him into trouble and encouraging
       him to do stuff, and it sounds like his mom might have been
       responsible for some of that as well.
       Garret kept reading comics and playing games for a while after
       that.  I did keep an eye on him, but never caught him doing
       anything again.  I think his brother avoided the store after
       that, and Garret eventually quit coming in himself.
       OH, GOSH!  Looking back, I see I left out some really important
       information (though I think I may have mentioned it in chat).
       Garret and his brother were both arrested later.  It was about
       the time Garret turned 15.  He went to TYC (Texas Youth
       Commission) and his brother received an adult sentence.  There
       was some probation involved around that, and some stuff went on
       with their mom (who was apparently selling marijuana, and using
       the boys to sell it?).
       Garret has been spending a lot of time with me over the last six
       weeks or so, and I'm still trying to figure him out.  He's been
       open about some things, but there are a number of things he's
       not wanted to discuss at all.
       Garret had stayed with his mom a bit while he got out, but he
       obviously wanted to get away from her.  I helped him out by
       letting him have an efficiency apartment that was unrented, and
       we made a deal so he could move in easily.  He didn't have much
       clothing when he was released, and, as I said before, I cleared
       out most of our hand-me-down closet in donations to Hurricane
       Harvey relief.  He and I still managed to get him a decent
       wardrobe from the Salvation Army, and I let him borrow the money
       against his check.
       Garret has been doing a good job at work, and we've been
       training him in different stuff that doesn't require a ton of
       in-depth knowledge.  He's still doing some janitorial, but he's
       also started pulling orders, and we're even training him to pack
       and send, which is something we never have enough of during the
       Christmas season.
       Like I said, he's been spending time with me, and I'll take him
       around the stores with me, mostly when he's off work.  Daniel is
       currently working in the stores, learning the more in-depth
       routines, and I like the company.  He's also been around the
       house a fair amount, but he seems like he's uncomfortable around
       the kids.  I don't know if he doesn't like crowds or what,
       because he denies it.  On the other hand, I had to threaten him
       to get him to come help out on Halloween (after he helped set up
       for the parties, then set up for trick-or-treating).  He did
       agree to help out, and he did end up having a great time.
       I did jokingly threaten to spank him one time, when he and I
       were at the mall, and he wondered off.  I thought he'd either
       joke back or tell me he was too old.  Instead, he got really
       upset that I was mad at him, and I had to assure him that I was
       just teasing in order to get him to calm down.  I haven't
       brought it up again, though it does make me wonder what he
       assumes about our relationship.
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       Re: Garret Riley
       By: Jack Date: November 27, 2017, 1:26 pm
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       I'm writing about Garret on a rather intermittent base, because
       not everything I'm learning is comfortable (and because I'm
       really busy).
       Garret and I are hanging out a lot, while my kids are at school.
       He's learning a lot about the business, and he and Daniel are
       becoming friends.
       I had thought that Garret would spend Thanksgiving with his
       mother, but he wasn't interested in that idea.  When I pushed
       him on the idea, he admitted that mother had pushed him before
       he'd gone to TYC, she'd had him helping her sale marijuana.  I
       get the feeling there was some extent of abuse involved, though
       whether it was from her, or her tolerating his brother picking
       on him (or more), I don't know.  I'm honestly not even positive
       if anything did happen.
       So yeah - I invited Garret to join us for Thanksgiving.  When he
       tried to refuse, I did not resort to threatening a spanking - no
       matter how much it might have been meant in jest.  I was pretty
       forceful about it.  He's working hard and trying to do the
       things he's supposed to do.  Everyone needs support, and I think
       that's especially true for people who are having a hard time.
       I'm actually starting to wonder if Garret actually has problems
       with my kids, or if he's just not comfortable around big groups
       of people.  He was very shy and quiet for a lot of
       Thanksgiving, but he did relax and hang out with some of the
       older kids - played some games and watched some football.
       It was kind of funny, because he seemed pretty tensed out when
       he left that evening, but he was still back Saturday to help
       with decorations - and leftovers.
       #Post#: 3705--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Garret Riley
       By: Jack Date: February 13, 2018, 4:46 am
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       I haven't talked about Garrett in a while.  Part of that's
       because of how crazy my schedule is.  Part of it's because I'm
       teaching in the mornings, so he and I aren't working together as
       much.  We still hang out, though.
       If you recall, my first week started on Wednesday.  After
       teaching, I went to see how the pull had gone, and Garrett had
       already left to work one of the stories, so I didn't see him.
       The next day, when i finished teaching, I saw he'd called.  I
       called  him back, we talked a bit.   Garrett is still a bit
       awkward socially, but I've come to know him fairly well, and it
       wasn't hard to see what he was fishing for - we had lunch
       together, and then he went grocery shopping with me, and came
       home with me for lunch.  We still hang out in the afternoons
       once or twice a week.  He's even reading Hatchet along with us -
       I kind of wish I could sneak him into one of my classes.
       No, the reason I haven't talked about Garrett since Thanksgiving
       is something he shared with me before Christmas, and it's also
       the reason he didn't want to stay with his mom and spent
       Thanksgiving with us.  His brother raped and molested him when
       they were kids, and his mom knew about it.  It sounds like there
       was actually physical abuse as well (physical discipline that
       left marks, and sounds like 'discipline' was sometimes
       questionable).
       He received some therapy while he was in TYC, but I've made him
       start seeing a councilor here.  He asked me and his therapist to
       talk to each other, because he wants me to know some stuff, but
       he has trouble saying it.  The therapist ended up agreeing to
       supervise a discussion between us.  The therapist did end up
       telling me a few things afterwards that he felt weren't
       violating a confidence.
       it turns out that Garrett sees me as - not exactly a father
       figure, but as an authority figure.  He's scared to form too
       deep an attachment.  The therapist did tell me that, while
       Garrett would accept correction from me, I need to be very
       careful, because Garrett is really both scared of sensitive.
       That pretty much means that, for now at least, I can't tease him
       at all, and even something like wrestling or birthday smacks
       need to be very careful.  He also told me that, while Garrett is
       desperate for physical affection, and loves when I put my arm
       around him, he's also scared by it.  He sees how casually I hug
       my kids and family and even a lot of their friends, and he wants
       it, but it makes him uncomfortable.
       I asked the therapist about charging Garrett's mother or
       brother.  He said he's handling the issue, but Garrett doesn't
       want to right now.  In Texas, we have until Garrett turns 28 to
       pursue charges, so the therapist isn't pushing it just now - he
       wants to get Garrett stable before the go back to that too hard.
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