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       New Pets
       By: Jack Date: February 17, 2018, 7:49 am
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       Last year, I lost two cats.  Both Cepo (the Russian Gray that
       moved in with Mickey and Van) and Bagheera passed.  We're not
       sure how old Cepo was when he moved in with us, but we think he
       was about as old as Van or a bit more.  That's not ancient for a
       cat, but it's still a pretty good run.  Bagheera was older than
       that.  Bagheera was at least part Siamese (very distinctive
       voice), but we don't know what else. He had had some health
       problems a couple of years ago, when Shere Khan had passed away.
       I brought the two of them into the house at the same time, when
       they were both 3 to 4 months old. They'd been together for about
       15 years, and Bagheera was devastated when his partner was gone.
       That's when we found out that, for all his aggression and
       dominance, Fido is also very empathetic.  He spent a lot of time
       and gave a lot of attention to Bagheera, until Baggy started
       eating and moving around again.
       Of course, we knew Cepo was getting old, so when I got Fido and
       Sheeba, and Spin and Marty, and Ozzy, I also got Chekov - a new
       Russian Gray (named for Star Trek, not the author).  While
       Mickey's at college now, and Cepo always seemed more attached to
       Mick than Van, I think having Chekov around did help Van a lot.
       And now, here we are again - I have six new boys - the Marsh
       boys, Zeke, and Kaden, since we last got animals.  While I think
       C&C are a little young, I can't help remembering that the twins
       were younger when we got Lady and Prince.  C&C are very attached
       to Lady and Prince, but those two are both nearly 14, which is
       pretty old for Retrievers (Labs are 14, and Golden's are
       actually only 12).
       While we do have a lot of pets, I have been able to get special
       permission to have a lot - because of the size of my house and
       yard, the number of kids I have, and because caring for them is
       not a financial hardship for me.
       David Katz has recommended Guinea Pigs.  They seem like a good
       selection, but they do tend to have a short lifespan.  They
       might be good for Liam and Kaden, though.
       I've considered rabbits, but I'm afraid that everyone would
       expect another Fido, and I'm pretty sure that Fido is a once in
       a lifetime type guy.  I don't want someone to get their new
       friend and be disappointed.
       Fur bearing animals are illegal as pets in Texas, which removes
       raccoons and foxes from the running.
       Except for Liam (and maybe Kaden), I think the boys would prefer
       someone who could be played and interacted with, rather than
       something like a lizard or bird or fish.
       Which brings us back to cats and dogs.
       I've been thinking about this for a while, but especially since
       Kaden had his breakdown the other night.  I think I started
       really considering it when I was first home from the hospital.
       At that point, I realized that, while Sheeba may come to me for
       food, she's really more a family cat - she'll go to anyone for
       attention or playtime.  I honestly miss having a cat who'll
       settle down and read with me.
       Let me mention that I've discussed this with my adult kids.
       They were all raised around cats, and they know how I feel (most
       of them have similar feelings, even if they're more dog than cat
       persons).
       Well, last night, it turns out Steve and Belle had an early
       birthday present for me.  When I arrived home from our showing
       of Black Panther, they presented me with a couple of black
       panthers of my own - two 13 week old Bombay kittens:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64uA_yxE8b4
       I haven't named them yet, but I can already tell you that I'm in
       love.
       #Post#: 3844--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Pets
       By: Adric Date: February 17, 2018, 8:09 am
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       [quote author=Jack link=topic=405.msg3843#msg3843
       date=1518875374]
       C&C are very attached to C&C, ...
       Fur bearing animals are illegal as pets in Texas, which removes
       raccoons and foxes from the running.
       [/quote]
       I know kids that age are into themselves, but still ...  :D
       I'm a little confused.  Don't all of your pets bear fur?  What's
       the difference?
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       Re: New Pets
       By: Leti Date: February 17, 2018, 8:18 am
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       :D Great news, kittens are always fun!
       Congratulations on your new furry babies !
       Hugs
       Leti
       #Post#: 3848--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Pets
       By: db105 Date: February 17, 2018, 10:12 am
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       That's amazing (Fido comforting Bagheera). I agree he's a one in
       a lifetime kind of rabbit.
       Those kittens sound very nice, I'm sure the younger kids are in
       love too  :)
       One question, since you have experience with cars and dogs:
       aren't dogs more likely to want to play with children, while
       cats tend to prefer to do their own thing?
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       Re: New Pets
       By: kalico Date: February 17, 2018, 11:34 am
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       Awww that was sweet of Steve and belle ...... enjoy your new fur
       babies
       My little found a mostly black but has some white kitten this
       summer and it was suppose to be my 16 year old daughters but
       when it started getting bigger and able to get into her stuff
       and destroy things like makeup she kicked it out of her room so
       now I have the baby but that's ok he's a cutie and very playful
       ....
       They can be very therapeutic for us...
       Hugs kal
       #Post#: 3856--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Pets
       By: Jack Date: February 17, 2018, 1:15 pm
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       [quote author=Adric link=topic=405.msg3844#msg3844
       date=1518876595]
       I know kids that age are into themselves, but still ...  :D
       I'm a little confused.  Don't all of your pets bear fur?  What's
       the difference?
       [/quote]
       Yeah - C&C are attached to Lady and Prince - our older
       Retrievers - I changed it in the original post for future
       readers.
       I think the term they used referred to animals who are part of
       the fur trade, not any animals with fur at all.
       [quote author=db105 link=topic=405.msg3848#msg3848
       date=1518883931]
       One question, since you have experience with cars and dogs:
       aren't dogs more likely to want to play with children, while
       cats tend to prefer to do their own thing?
       [/quote]
       In general, that's true.  There are some cats who are more
       social than others.  Sheeba and Ozzy are both very playful, and
       the boys do enjoy playing with them, though they don't wrestle
       as much as some of the big boys do.
       [quote author=kalico link=topic=405.msg3851#msg3851
       date=1518888893]
       My little found a mostly black but has some white kitten this
       summer and it was suppose to be my 16 year old daughters but
       when it started getting bigger and able to get into her stuff
       and destroy things like makeup she kicked it out of her room so
       now I have the baby but that's ok he's a cutie and very playful
       ....
       [/quote]
       Kal, my friends had a full-breed Siamese who escaped and mated
       wild.  She had a liter of six.  three of them were born pure
       white, and later developed Siamese colors, while another was
       born pure black (except about 5 white hairs on his chest).  I
       adopted the black one and one of the whites and had them from
       about '88 to '02 or '03.
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       Re: New Pets
       By: Zyngaru Date: February 17, 2018, 1:28 pm
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       So since they are Bombay cats, are you considering Hindu God and
       Goddess names?  I mean you already used all the good Mowgli
       names.
       Tendua is the Hindi name for leopard which also includes a Black
       Panther, which is a leopard.  Actually Black Panther is a common
       term for any big black cat. (According to Wikipedia)
       Keimu means black panther in the Meeteilon language of Manipuri
       in northeastern India (kei= tiger, mu= black).
       #Post#: 3858--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Pets
       By: David M. Katz Date: February 17, 2018, 2:58 pm
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       [quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=405.msg3857#msg3857
       date=1518895712]
       So since they are Bombay cats, are you considering Hindu God and
       Goddess names?  I mean you already used all the good Mowgli
       names.
       Tendua is the Hindi name for leopard which also includes a Black
       Panther, which is a leopard.  Actually Black Panther is a common
       term for any big black cat. (According to Wikipedia)
       Keimu means black panther in the Meeteilon language of Manipuri
       in northeastern India (kei= tiger, mu= black).
       [/quote]
       Your analysis went a lot deeper than mine, Z.  I came up with
       the very original names of Midnight and Shadow.   ;D  :P
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       Jack, will Kaden become the primary caregiver for one of the new
       kittens?
       Congrats on the new babies!
       #Post#: 3861--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Pets
       By: Jack Date: February 17, 2018, 3:34 pm
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       Jack will be the primary care givers for both of the new family
       members - if they except him.
       In the meantime, Van and I will be seeing how well Bombay cats
       can be clicker trained, and we'll be training Kaden in the
       technique at the same time.
       Their names are Ebony and Onyx.
       #Post#: 3863--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Pets
       By: David M. Katz Date: February 17, 2018, 4:55 pm
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       [quote author=Jack link=topic=405.msg3861#msg3861
       date=1518903258]
       Their names are Ebony and Onyx.
       [/quote]
       I approve.   ;D  (Because I know you were needing my approval.
       :P  )
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