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#Post#: 3670--------------------------------------------------
On Spanking: Ideals
By: Jack Date: February 12, 2018, 4:07 am
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I was just wondering about something from two perspectives. Do
you have an ideal for spanking/spanking stories?
There's not a certain look that appeals to me most - I love
Hispanics, with their black hair, dark eyes, and rich skin tone,
but I also like other ethnic groups, and I like blonds, and
gingers, as much as brown hair, other shades of red, or plain
black. There are a few things I don't like (mostly skin tones
that are either glossy or 'matte' for lack of a better term),
and i prefer lean, but still not so skinny as to not have a
rear.
What really makes a difference to me is size/age. With younger
kids, you know they're going to break down and cry when they're
getting spanked. With older 'boys' like Liam or Zeke, neither
of them is a full grown adult yet, but both of them are filling
out and getting hairy.
I can't tell you why certain things push my buttons, and while
other things that are very similar can ruin my enjoyment. What
I can tell you is that I love a boy who's just over 5' - one who
is approaching or in early adolescence. One whose body is a
mystery, and one who's still adjusting to it and probably pretty
shy. Also one who is growing, and probably proud of what he
sees as his new maturity, and wants to 'take it like a man', but
honestly isn't sure he'll be able to.
When it comes to real life, I love boys this age - young enough
to still act like boys, but old enough that they have some real
maturity, and you can often talk to them in ways you can't talk
to younger boys, who just don't have the depth of experience
yet. If you approach it right, these boys love to learn and
enjoy listening to what you have to say. Yet they also have
their own experiences, and they have their own opinions, which
are often well-formed and sometimes surprising.
A story doesn't have to be about someone in this group to catch
my interest, but I certainly do find these boys to be a plus.
So what about you? What things are most important to the
characters you like to see spanked most? Age, looks, behavior?
Or does the boy not matter as much as something else?
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Re: On Spanking: Ideals
By: db105 Date: February 12, 2018, 8:46 am
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For me the most important thing is that it seems real, that it's
described in a way that I can immerse myself in the story. I
don't need a thorough physical description of the characters.
Just a basic indication of what he looks like is fine, and my
imagination will provide the rest. It's important that the
character seems an individual, and not just a spanking "punch
bag". The relationship between the characters or even the
setting can do a lot to make it seem real, if it's well
described. The psychological aspect is also important for me.
How the character perceives and is affected by the spanking.
I realize that what I say is vague, but there's really not a
magic shortcut. It just has to be good.
Then there's the hot factor. I prefer bare to not bare and some
stories have an intense "spanky" feel that I enjoy.
The age of the spanked is not a determining factor for me. 12 or
13 is a good age, but I enjoy any age if it's well done.
Adult spankees I don't enjoy so much, although in some cases I
can enjoy it if the story is good. I don't enjoy stories about
consensual spankings as much as about real punishment spankings.
Normally I prefer domestic to school, because the relationship
between spanker and spankee can be too distant in school
spankings, and the punishment too businesslike and impersonal. I
prefer a more personal relationship.
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Re: On Spanking: Ideals
By: Zyngaru Date: February 12, 2018, 11:19 am
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I have to think about this one. It is extremely personal and
opens up a vulnerability when answered honestly. So I am typing
it on my word program first and then copying it to the board
once finished.
For me age is not the determining factor in and of itself. What
draws me to a story and to real life is the stage of
development. My window is small. It is the stage between first
sensing self awareness and being self aware. It happens in
pre-puberty. When the child begins to disappear and the
teenager appears. In my day that would have been between 11-14
in most cases. Of course there is both the early and late
bloomers, that stretch the age range in some cases. For late
bloomers, as long as they still hold the boyhood appearance and
attitude they can get to be older, but usually at some point
even if puberty hasn’t happened they still become to old to be
of interest.
It is the attitude and personality which grabs me. I like
stories that are about the shy, innocent boy. He is curious and
yet timid. He wants to experience the erotic part of life but
is scared to do it. I love embarrassing situations. The more
humiliated the character can become the greater I enjoy the
story. Which means I have to have emotions in my story. I need
to know what the boy is thinking and feeling. I need to know
what the spanker is thinking and feeling.
I don’t need the smack, smack, smack in a story as much as I
need the feelings the boy is experiencing during the smack,
smack, smack. If I can also get what the spanker is feeling
during the smack, smack, smack, so much the better for my
interest in the story.
The boy's looks are not all that important to me. I am going to
imagine him as my mind takes over in the story anyway. The
author might describe the boy as five foot tall with dark hair,
dark eyes and slightly on the chubby side, and I will imagine
him as four foot tall with red hair, green eyes and skinny.
What I can’t do is change a sixteen year old hairy boy into an
eleven year old smooth boy in my imagination. It just doesn’t
work because the way the story is written for a sixteen year old
has a different feel than it does for an eleven year old.
I prefer total nakedness during the spanking. I prefer the boy
to be embarrassed about being made to be naked. I enjoy the
vulnerability of being naked during a spanking. Anyone could
possibly see the boy naked. If by chance someone does, then so
much the better.
The setting isn’t so much a concern for me. Home, school,
woods, store and etc. It is how it happens that is important to
me. I prefer real life situations, or at least something I can
feel like it is real. That increases the humiliation factor. I
am okay with consensual play spankings. Boys using spanking as
a penalty for losing at a game and etc.
The spanking cannot be brutal. This is a carryover from my own
childhood. I detest stories using a cane, whip, strop, hose,
and etc. That is too much like torture for my taste. I know on
naval vessels boys were whipped. I know slave boys were
whipped. I know boys in British schools were caned. I know
fathers have beaten their sons. I don’t need to read stories
about it though.
Behavior. I can’t stand brats, whiny boys, bullies or arrogant
boys. If the story is about them winning the day, I don’t want
to read it. If the story is about them getting what’s coming to
them and they repent, then I could enjoy the story.
My favorite character is going to be a pre-pubescent boy who is
slim, short, cute, funny, shy, energetic, affectionate, and
naked. Then you embarrass the daylights out of him, and I will
roll on the floor enjoying every minute of it.
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Re: On Spanking: Ideals
By: Anteaterbee Date: February 15, 2018, 5:31 am
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Personally, what I find most important is the spankee's
cooperation. There is just no appeal for me in stories where the
spanker has to wrestle a young offender into position, or
forcefully yank down his pants. Instead, I find it much more
enjoyable when the spankee accepts what is going to happen,
undresses all by himself and takes up the position voluntarily.
I also like it when the boy getting spanked takes his discipline
like a man by staying as motionless as possible and keeping his
vocal reactions to a minimum.
Furthermore, I think the ideal spanking takes a while to
deliver. Especially an OTK hand spanking should take several
minutes, in my opinion. But I am in no way opposed to implements
being used. All in all, I would say that the ideal spanking in
my mind is a highly ritualised affaire. It also helps if the
spankee is fully naked for his punishment.
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Re: On Spanking: Ideals
By: Adric Date: March 1, 2018, 11:38 am
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My boys ...
[list type=decimal]
[li]accept their spankings as a normal part of growing up - an
occupational hazard of childhood.[/li]
[li]have lots of friends who also get spankings at home and at
school.[/li]
[li]don't mind telling their friends about it when they get a
spanking.[/li]
[li]sometimes need to be spanked by their friend's fathers
during sleepovers.[/li]
[li]are paddled by the principal and coaches at school when they
misbehave.[/li]
[li]keep their own paddles in their rooms to be used when the
need arises.[/li]
[li]go to their rooms at bedtime, strip naked below the waist,
and wait for me with their noses in a corner.[/li]
[li]cooperate with their spankings and do what I tell them to
do.[/li]
[li]don't try to impress me with how brave they are. I know it
hurts and they shouldn't pretend it doesn't.[/li]
[li]cry freely when they feel like it but they don't beg me to
stop.[/li]
[li]want to be hugged after a spanking so they can feel that
everything is okay again.[/li]
[li]get over their spankings quickly without sulking or
resentment.[/li]
[/list]
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Re: On Spanking: Ideals
By: Zyngaru Date: March 1, 2018, 2:49 pm
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[quote author=Adric link=topic=395.msg4120#msg4120
date=1519925932]
My boys ...
[list][li]accept their spankings as a normal part of growing up
- an occupational hazard of childhood.[/li][/list] [/quote]
I never just accepted a spanking. I hated them and didn't take
them very stoically.
[quote]
[list][li]don't mind telling their friends about it when they
get a spanking.[/li][/list] [/quote]
Nope. I tried to keep it hid. I didn't like showing it off or
sharing details. I hoped my friends never found out when I got
whipped.
[quote]
[list][li]keep their own paddles in their rooms to be used when
the need arises.[/li][/list] [/quote]
Both the paddle and the strap were kept in the kitchen. The
kitchen or living room were the two most popular places to get
our whippings. Seldom in our bedrooms.
[quote]
[list][li]go to their rooms at bedtime, strip naked below the
waist, and wait for me with their noses in a corner.[/li][/list]
[/quote]
Nope, stripped naked right there in the kitchen or living room
and whipped, as I screamed and begged. Then sent to corner
naked.
[quote]
[list][li]cooperate with their spankings and do what I tell them
to do.[/li][/list] [/quote]
Absolutely not. I fought it with every bit of strength I had.
My mom and dad were both strong, because I pulled and tugged to
get free of them every minute the whipping went on.
[quote]
[list][li]cry freely when they feel like it but they don't beg
me to stop.[/li][/list] [/quote]
I was crying before the first whack. I begged and pleaded even
before it started and all through it as long as I still had the
breath to beg.
[quote]
[list][li]want to be hugged after a spanking so they can feel
that everything is okay again.[/li][/list] [/quote]
I wanted to be hugged, but it never happened. I can't remember
anyone hugging me after a spanking. I was spanked by both
parents, grandparents, Aunts and Uncles, Older cousins, friends
parents, teachers, principals and coaches, lifeguards and a few
times by strangers (neighbors). No one ever hugged me
afterward. I was told I got what I deserved. No compassion was
ever showed. That was being weak and adults didn't want to look
weak in front of kids.
[quote]
[list][li]get over their spankings quickly without sulking or
resentment.[/li][/list] [/quote]
Heavens no! I hold grudges. I was 33 years old before I
forgave my father of how he treated me as a boy. So no, I was
resentful and held grudges.
So Adric,
I wouldn't do well in your list of likes. It wouldn't be a
spanking story you would want to read.
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Re: On Spanking: Ideals
By: squarecutter Date: April 13, 2018, 1:33 pm
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I think the main thing is realistic and unless depicting
abuse(something , age appropriate, I think anything in the 8-16
group as its not easy to verbalise younger kis feelings in any
inteesting way without making them seem older than they are. At
16 on, I dont know but while I realise Jack has done it Im not
sure it isnt too old, the kids too big etc other than for school
type swats/strokes. There are merits at most ages as spankees
but I think the 10 to 13 group the best with their ability to be
both innocent and far too knowlegeable for their own good at
times! and their physical capability to take a spanking even if
not stoically. Hair colour has never been an issue
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Re: On Spanking: Ideals
By: HumbledBareBoy Date: March 1, 2025, 7:39 pm
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=395.msg3670#msg3670
date=1518430049]
I was just wondering about something from two perspectives. Do
you have an ideal for spanking/spanking stories?
.....
So what about you? What things are most important to the
characters you like to see spanked most? Age, looks, behavior?
Or does the boy not matter as much as something else?[/quote]
Oh, dear gods, YES! :o I am 110% one picky S.O.B. -- as
particular as the day is long! :D More to the point, one might
even argue that the primary reason I started writing for MMSA
was precisely to create stories that catered to my own personal,
idiosyncratic standards and preferences...
[quote]There's not a certain look that appeals to me most I love
Hispanics, with their black hair, dark eyes, and rich skin tone,
but I also like other ethnic groups...[/quote]
The boys I personally write about tend to be Caucasian by
default, just as a matter of unthinking habit, because I myself
am also a white male. However, I frequently write about
Latino/Hispanic boys, as well, and I would also love to see (and
write) more stories about Middle Eastern and South Asian boys,
as well! Also, here while back, I read this one story that I
absolutely loved, that was set in China with a 13yo boy getting
spanked... :)
[quote]I prefer lean, but still not so skinny as to not have a
rear.[/quote]
When the boy in question does happen to be lean/fit, I do indeed
want him to have a bit of "heft" to his bottom, regardless! :D
Otherwise, what's the fun of a spanking, if there's no "butt
meat" to whack? [emoji28] However, as some people here may
already know, I have very strong and vocal appreciation of boys
on the "heavier" end of the spectrum -- not so far as to be
obese, but nonetheless an undeniable affinity for those who may
be characterized as "overweight," "chubby," and my two personal
favorites: "stocky" and "husky" [emoji7] Basically, enough
"padding for the paddling" -- LOL!
In my own writing, in fact, I am hugely fond of specifically
including combinations and juxtapositions of varying body types
amongst my boy characters;
[quote]What really makes a difference to me is size/age.
<-snip-> What I can tell you is that I love a boy who's just
over 5' - one who is approaching or in early adolescence. One
whose body is a mystery, and one who's still adjusting to it and
probably pretty shy. Also one who is growing, and probably
proud of what he sees as his new maturity...[/quote]
One of my favorite ages to write about is thirteen,
specifically, as opposed to both preteens and ages 14-plus. Just
because that particular age tends to conjure up, in my mind,
certain mental images and associations that uniquely and
powerfully capture my emotions and imagination! [emoji4] In
light of that, I am actually working on a future MMSA submission
that is more of an essay, musing at length about boys at age 13
-- though with a spank story incorporated into it, even if that
part only occurred to me later in the writing process. But to
elaborate further, since others expressed themselves in "list"
form for this thread, then I guess I shall do the same...
[list type=lower-alpha]
[li]Age Range: Strong preference for ages 11-13 because they've
reached a certain level of mental/emotional maturity, along with
lots of potential to be "precocious" in their inclinations,
while still being so wonderfully youthful and boyish, at the
same time! [emoji738] In particular, this part rings especially
true for me...
[quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=395.msg3675#msg3675
date=1518455983]
For me age is not the determining factor in and of itself. What
draws me to a story and to real life is the stage of
development. My window is small. It is the stage between first
sensing self awareness and being self aware. It happens in
pre-puberty.
[/quote]
...though I diverge from my colleague here in one fundamental
respect: My "range" extends a bit further out, to include
beginning puberty, as well, when those initial changes have only
just begun to make themselves known. Not too surprising, of
course, considering my aforementioned affinity for age thirteen!
;)
[hr]
[/li]
[li]Domestic/Family: Almost always "Dad/son," though with
"brothers" being a very significant second! In this one, I am
actually quite picky in one specific way: Bio-fathers
exclusively (i.e., exclusive of "step," adoptive, foster, etc.),
with the same preferences for "brother" scenarios, even to the
point of de-emphasizing "half brothers" -- which I fully and
readily admit is not remotely sensible or rational, in all
fairness! :D That said, the previous applies mostly to my
writing, and I am not unwilling to give deviations a chance, if
other buttons of mine are effectively pressed...
[hr][/li]
[li](Un)Dress: In general, my feelings on this are more or less
in line with Z's preferences:
[quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=395.msg3675#msg3675
date=1518455983]
I prefer total nakedness during the spanking. I prefer the boy
to be embarrassed about being made to be naked. I enjoy the
vulnerability of being naked during a spanking. Anyone could
possibly see the boy naked. If by chance someone does, then so
much the better.
[/quote]
Or as I'm so fond of saying, though in a 100% "tongue-in-cheek"
sentiment, "Bare-bottom only = Overdressed" [emoji13] However,
there are the occasional variations that I undeniably find very
appealing, such as...
[list]
[li]Naked except for socks and shoes -- like, after a fully-nude
spanking, make Junior put on his footwear, plus some sunblock,
and then send him outside to do some yard work in the front
yard! LOL[/li]
[li]Specialty clothing designed to cover much of the body while
strategically exposing private areas below the waist, such as
wrestling singlet or "surf suit" with an open front and back!
See links for visual references (warning: NSFW!):
[list type=decimal]
[li]
HTML https://secure.leatherwerks.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=ST-14285[/li]
[li]
HTML https://www.mr-s-leather.com/rubber-open-crotch-surf-suit[/li]
[li]
HTML https://jocksbyrj.com/open-back-wrestling-singlet/[/li]
[/list]
NOTE: [spoiler]This is something I actually used in my
"Halloween 2021" story in MMSA![/spoiler]
[/li]
[/list]
[hr][/li]
[li]Positions:
[list]
[li]The traditional ones: OTK, across Dad's lap, bent over some
furniture, up against the wall, facedown and prone on a couch or
bed, and "diaper position"[/li]
[li]Some "unorthodox" options: Standing upright (facing forward
+ hands-on-head), suspended from ceiling by wrists, other use of
restraints/bondage, "doggy-style" [emoji33], and...all the other
kinds of crazy nonsense that emerge from my demented
imagination! ;)[/li]
[/list]
[hr][/li]
[li]Implements: I tend to be open-minded to most implements,
depending on my mood/headspace at the time, so it'd actually be
shorter to list those I tend not to go for: Slipper or other
shoe, switch (though I often like canes, go figure!), and
ummmm...carpet beater! ;D That said, some of my favorites:
[list]
[li]The good, old-fashioned hand -- right on the boy's naughty
bare bottom![/li]
[li]Paddle and hairbrush, for surface area[/li]
[li]Belt, strap, and...tawse![/li]
[/list][hr][/li]
[li]Punishment Targets: In terms of MMSA content tags, I'm a
huge fan of the so-called "non-buttock" areas -- primarily:
[list]
[li]Across the shoulders and upper back -- such as a flogging or
back-belting, for example?[/li]
[li]Right on those sensitive [spoiler]pecker +
balls![/spoiler][/li]
[li]Finally: [spoiler]In-between the cheeks, as well as directly
upon or inside the bottom-hole, too![/spoiler][/li]
[/list][hr][/li]
[li]Setting: Inside a bedroom, if I want it to be a more close
and intimate affair, but in the living room, in most cases, so
the whole family can enjoy the show -- often including mothers
and sisters, naturally -- or sometimes, the performance will
even migrate outdoors, to make it more of a "community event,"
like a block party or something. Finally, if I want a really big
audience, then various indoor and outdoor public settings are
just what the doctor ordered![hr][/li]
[li]Consent vs. Non-cons.: Depending on the story, as well as
whatever mood and tone I am seeking to accomplish, it can range
anywhere from "enthusiastically consensual" to "forcefully
imposed," [hr][/li]
[li]Spanker Motivation: Can be emphatically lecherous, strict
and harsh, firm but loving, sadistic and mean-spirited, and
various combinations of the previous[hr][/li]
[li]Spankee Demeanor: Fun and playful, humorous and
good-natured, horny and flirtatious, warm and loving, and once
again, various degrees of "sadistic."[hr][/li]
[li]Structure/Formality: For me, there's just about no such
thing as too much protocol or procedure, and I have a massive
kink/fetish for rituals and ceremonies, as well as power
hierarchies and strictly-defined relationship
structures![hr][/li]
[li]Realism: Me, realistic? Contraire, mon freire! Remember
exactly who you're talking to here...[hr][/li]
[li]Sexuality/Eroticism: Despite taking pride in my writing and
overall "story-craft," ultimately my main goals is (and shall
always be) to help the reader "get off," so to speak, regardless
of gender. Therefore, at the very least, the story is almost
always intended to be sexual and/or erotic "for the reader"
themselves; whether that's also the case[hr][/li]
[li]Embarrassment/Humiliation: See everything Zyngaru said, of
course, but it's also in my very pen-name itself: "Humbled Bare
Boy" -- each word part of the unified whole, ya know?[hr][/li]
[li]Extremity: Anything I write is all but guaranteed to be at
least a little bit "edgy," and I'm a huge fan of "pushing the
envelope" and flouting all manner of culturally-ubiquitous
taboos; so much so, in fact, that I almost take it as a point of
pride if I can manage to leave a reader shocked and scandalized
-- LOL![hr][/li]
[/list]
[quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=395.msg3675#msg3675
date=1518455983]It is the attitude and personality which grabs
me. I like stories that are about the shy, innocent boy. He is
curious and yet timid. He wants to experience the erotic part
of life but is scared to do it. I love embarrassing situations.
The more humiliated the character can become the greater I
enjoy the story. Which means I have to have emotions in my
story. I need to know what the boy is thinking and feeling. I
need to know what the spanker is thinking and feeling.[/quote]
Yes, Zyngaru, this is why you and I get along so very well
together, am I right? All of the above elements, plus a whole
lot more besides, uniting us even despite our obvious
divergences! I am reminded of my longest story
HTML https://malespank.net/viewStory.php?id=49948
-- size @ 160K,
written for the "Holidays 2021" collab -- and a major reason for
that was my inability to resist going off on extended verbose
tangents of prose, painstakingly exploring the psychological and
emotional intricacies of various characters, especially the
primary boy protagonist Brendan. Actually -- upon arriving at
the story's, ummmm, climax -- I even spent an entire 1765 words
JUST describing the "undressing process" itself, in most detail
possible: Physical, visual, physiological, and certainly
emotional! That 160K was, naturally, a ton of work to execute
and finalize, but Pixote and Zyngaru's sweet and supportive
praise made EVERY BIT of that worth my while...
[quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=395.msg3675#msg3675
date=1518455983]Behavior. I can’t stand brats, whiny boys,
bullies or arrogant boys. If the story is about them winning
the day, I don’t want to read it. If the story is about them
getting what’s coming to them and they repent, then I could
enjoy the story.[/quote]
The perfect boy personality, for me, is a juxtaposition of two
ideals:
[list type=upper-alpha]
[li]Innocent and Vulnerable: Shy, timid, naive, inexperienced,
awkward, self-conscious, and very bashful/modest about his body,
as well as other anatomical and carnal matters![/li]
[li]Curious and Precocious: All those unfamiliar new feelings --
confusing and a little scary, yet also tempting and exciting --
occasioned by the onset of boyhood puberty, yet foisted by
nature and biology upon the mind and heart of a boy who might
still be playing with action figures and watching Saturday
morning cartoons! So, so very much fertile fantasy potential and
creative fodder...[/li]
[/list]
[quote author=Adric link=topic=395.msg4120#msg4120
date=1519925932]
My boys ...
[list type=circle]
[li]7. (w/ caveats) go to their rooms at bedtime, strip naked
below the waist, and wait for me with their noses in a
corner***[/li]
[li]8. cooperate with their spankings and do what I tell them to
do.[/li]
[li]9. don't try to impress me with how brave they are. I know
it hurts and they shouldn't pretend it doesn't.[/li]
[li]10. cry freely when they feel like it but they don't beg me
to stop.[/li]
[li]11. want to be hugged after a spanking so they can feel that
everything is okay again.[/li]
[li]12. get over their spankings quickly without sulking or
resentment.[/li]
[/list]
[/quote]
These elements from the second half of Adric's list, items 7-12
from above, are the ones that most resonated with me; certainly
I like the boy to be not simply cooperative, but even more than
that, submissive and obedient in his behavior and demeanor alike
-- adopting a persona of devotion and adoration, almost even
subservient, towards his father -- with an element of surrender
to the highly unequal power dynamic. (Not just fathers, but also
older brothers and uncles, or whoever else is administering
punishments and asserting authority, really!) My aesthetic
philosophy for boy spankee characters, both physically and
emotionally, is best stated thus: "I don't want to be
'impressed' by him!" Neither in terms of "size" nor on the level
of bravado and/or stoicism; squirm and jerk and cry, as much as
necessary, yet without rebellion or disobedience, and there can
be warm and loving hugs, cuddles, comfort, etc. afterwards!
(Plus another kind of "happy ending," if I should happen to see
fit...)
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