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Re: School Trouble
By: db105 Date: April 9, 2018, 5:30 am
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Aw, poor boy! He should have just asked permission to go to the
bathroom. ::)
But anyway, mast_urbation may be perfectly normal, but since BCA
is a Christian school... isn't it, like, a sin? Wouldn't that be
cause for a more severe punishment? I remember when a big deal
was made out of a mild case of gambling.
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Re: School Trouble
By: Adric Date: April 9, 2018, 11:27 am
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I'm really surprised that Roger found it necessary to go into
that level of detail about a restroom break. It seems that "I
had to go" would be sufficient. All of the normal reasons for
needing to use a restroom are distracting and would interfere
with learning if they were not taken care of. It seems that he
should have just asked for permission to go to the restroom and
then done whatever he needed to do.
And then, when Jack nabbed him in the hall without a hall pass,
he was headed in the wrong direction. Where was he going?
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Re: School Trouble
By: Jack Date: April 9, 2018, 11:55 am
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[quote author=db105 link=topic=388.msg5005#msg5005
date=1523269817]
,,, BCA is a Christian school... isn't it, like, a sin? Wouldn't
that be cause for a more severe punishment? I remember when a
big deal was made out of a mild case of gambling.
[/quote]
Yes, not Catholic. Onanism is not a sin to (most?) Evangelical
groups, since his actual sin was disobeying God, not pulling out
early (and there was no masturbation even mentioned in that
case). The funny thing is, while trying to explain this, they
also mention having to keep your thoughts clean while doing it,
which is usually accompanied by the sound of every teenager in
the room rolling their eyes.
[quote author=Adric link=topic=388.msg5009#msg5009
date=1523291243]
I'm really surprised that Roger found it necessary to go into
that level of detail about a restroom break. It seems that "I
had to go" would be sufficient. All of the normal reasons for
needing to use a restroom are distracting and would interfere
with learning if they were not taken care of. It seems that he
should have just asked for permission to go to the restroom and
then done whatever he needed to do.
And then, when Jack nabbed him in the hall without a hall pass,
he was headed in the wrong direction. Where was he going?
[/quote]
I think this was a case of a guilty conscience. If he'd just
said that, he could probably have gotten away with it. The
problem is, as far as I can tell, that he did it, then realized
how late he was, and he was thinking about going to the nurse
with an 'upset stomach'. I believe the appropriate phrase is 'Oh
what a tangled web we weave...'.
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Re: School Trouble
By: db105 Date: April 9, 2018, 3:31 pm
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=388.msg5011#msg5011
date=1523292959]
Yes, not Catholic. Onanism is not a sin to (most?) Evangelical
groups, since his actual sin was disobeying God, not pulling out
early (and there was no **** even mentioned in that case). The
funny thing is, while trying to explain this, they also mention
having to keep your thoughts clean while doing it, which is
usually accompanied by the sound of every teenager in the room
rolling their eyes.
[/quote]
Cool! I didn't know that onanism was not considered a sin by
evangelicals. I can just picture the lecture: "Boys,
masturbating is fine, but make sure you do not have any lustful
thoughts while you do it. Just grit your teeth, grab your tool,
lie back and think of England
HTML http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LieBackAndThinkOfEngland."<br
/> ;D
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Re: School Trouble
By: Jack Date: April 9, 2018, 3:33 pm
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It wasn't quite that blatant, but it was close.
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Re: School Trouble
By: David M. Katz Date: April 10, 2018, 11:58 pm
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So four strokes is x=y, -x=-y?
You can now describe spankings to us as an equation. ;D ;D
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Re: School Trouble
By: Jack Date: May 15, 2018, 4:52 am
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As we close in on the end of the year, the weather's nicer, the
students are getting excited, but working harder to stay out of
trouble (or able to burn off steam outside), and Mr. P is gone
less often. Yesterday, however, turned into a real mess, and I
got involved.
There was a situation with a senior boy and his girl friend,
which had parents of both kids called in, and involved most of
the office staff, with threats of the police being called. I
also got involved in that, but was called on to handle a
different issue while everyone else was tied up. I left before
the situation was ultimately resolved, so I'm not going to
discuss it right now.
A 12-year old, sixth grade student, named Pat McKay arrived in
the office.
Pat was a fairly cute kid - slightly big for 12, just over 5
feet maybe. Not heavyset, but not really skinny either. He had
medium brown hair, blue eyes that slanted down at the outsides
just a bit, round cheeks, and some freckles.
Pat had been sent to the office for disrupting class. He'd been
throwing small wads of paper whenever the teacher turned his
back. The teacher has a set up so he can see behind him when he
needs to. He had a pretty good idea who was doing it, but he
warned everyone that it needed to stop or there would be serious
consequences, then he stepped over to watch behind him, turned
his back, then spun around when he saw Pat cock his arm and
caught him in the act. In that situation, it's not like Pat
could deny it.
The thing is, Pat has attended BCA since last spring, because
there were problems at his last school, including bullying, and
his parents wanted him someplace where he'd be supervised more
closely . Still, he's been in trouble several times this year.
BCA doesn't allow kids to be kept in during recess, but Pat has
done detention, he's been paddled by his classroom teacher, had
a parent/teacher conference, and paddled in the office, both on
and without trousers. Most of this was for some type of
'disrupting class' offense, and there was a note that his father
was to be called if there was another offense.
I called Mr. McKay, then sat Pat in the office, while I helped
out with the other situation for a bit. I did have a quick
discussion with him about respecting the rest of the class and
the teacher, and why 'fun' or 'playing in class' was rude and
unacceptable.
When Mr. McKay arrived, the three of us went to the conference
room. Pat hadn't been happy when he and I were discussing
things, but now he was visibly worried. I explained the
situation to Pat's father. Pat was given a chance to explain
his side, but since the teacher was in the building, and Pat had
been caught in the act, there wasn't much he could say. He did
repeat, in a stumbling manner, what I'd already told him.
"What did I say was going to happen if I had to be called up
here, Patrick?"
"Dad, please, I'm sorry. I was just playing around..."
"Patrick," Dad growled.
"You said I'd get my butt torn up," and I have to admit, I felt
as bad for him as I was exited right then.
"Drop 'em."
"Dad, please!"
"Get 'em down right now, Patrick Dennis."
He moaned, but he also started undoing his pants, which were
actually navy shorts, which he wore with black sneakers and a
white polo shirt, but no t-shirt.
I offered to leave, but his father asked me if I needed to
paddle Pat afterwards, I told him that it could happen, but it
depended on him and the offense, and the exact whupping that
Patrick received. I explained to him how I'd spanked a kid with
my hand before he got paddled.
Mr. McKay stood up, undid his belt and removed it, while Patrick
was slowly lowering his pants and white Hanes briefs, and
responded that he wasn't going to use his hand, so I should stay
to be sure Pat had had enough.
I'm pretty sure Pat wasn't' pleased with that decision, but he
was at least wise enough not to argue with his dad at that
point.
Pat's shorts were baggy enough they didn't stay around his
knees, though his briefs did, and it looked like he was
outgrowing the polo, so he was pretty completely exposed. He
covered his equipment with his hands, but I still got a pretty
good look. He was hairless, but decent sized. He was still
pink and white, and his sac had that loose look that says it's
still stretching.
"Over my lap," Mr. McKay informed his son. Patrick pleaded
again, but didn't back away or anything, and a second later, he
was in place.
I was pretty interested by now, since the belt's not normally an
OTK implement. Mr. McKay wrapped the belt several times around
his hand, until there was maybe 16 or 18 inches of it (about
half) left loose, then he doubled that up. Taking a firm grip
on Pat's waist, he began a pretty typical spanking. It looked
like he would aim back and forth between the two cheeks, and he
definitely worked from the top of the cheeks, down onto the
legs, and each leg got some individual attention.
Mr. McKay seems to be from the slow and steady school. The
spanking/whipping went on for at least 90 seconds or maybe even
two minutes, but I doubt Pat received more than 30 or 40 pops.
His butt was red all over, but it was a darker/lighter red
pattern that showed where the belt had actually kissed.
Pat tried to be stoic, but that only lasted 15 seconds or so,
before he kicking and trying to cover his butt, and he didn't
hold out much longer before he got vocal. It started with yelps
and pleads, but he was bawling before his dad finished up.
When Pat was allowed to stand, he wasn't thinking about modesty
at all. He started rubbing his butt, but his dad made him put
his hands on his head. I got a good view of front and back.
Pat was sent to the corner - still bare (he'd kicked his shorts
and briefs off) - and his father and I talked while he cried
himself out. When he finished crying, his dad allowed turned it
over to me. I allowed him to come out of the corner and clean
his face, and his dad picked up his clothes. We waited until he
was dressed again, then discussed a bit about behavior
expectations the rest of the year. His father asked to be
called, and promised him 'at least the same' if he had to be
called again before the end of the year (which is only three
weeks). Pat promised he wouldn't misbehave, and he was allowed
to go back to class. His father said good bye, and went with
him, to me sure Pat apologized to whomever he hit, and to the
teacher for disrupting class.
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Re: School Trouble
By: db105 Date: May 15, 2018, 7:54 am
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Oh boy, talk about an incentive not to act up in class! I feel
sorry for him, but it sounds like he is a bit of a troublemaker,
so maybe it's better for him in the long run that he is kept in
line.
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Re: School Trouble
By: Jack Date: May 18, 2018, 3:37 am
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Marcus called me yesterday evening. A couple of his students
got in trouble right as he was leaving yesterday (which would
have been about 4pm). He feels it has to be handled officially,
but he also wants to keep it 'lowkey' for some reason, so he's
asked if I can arrive a little early and swing by the gym to act
as the witness.
I don't know any details, but I can draw two conclusions.
1) He wants me, because he knows I'm sympathetic, if not
completely understanding, about boys doing impulsive and even
dumb things that get them into trouble, and I don't believe in
coming down on them like a ton of bricks... Whatever they think
might have landed on their butts afterwards.
2) He's a middle school coach, and if he's willing to go out of
his way to handle this, instead of just referring them to the
office this morning, then they're probably a couple of his boys
- between 12 and 14.
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Re: School Trouble
By: Adric Date: May 18, 2018, 7:48 am
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=388.msg5758#msg5758
date=1526632635]
... he knows I'm sympathetic, if not completely understanding,
about boys doing impulsive and even dumb things that get them
into trouble ...
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Impulsive/Dumb is a good description of what I did to get my
first serious paddling at school from the principal. Absolutely
unpremeditated. The opportunity to screw up suddenly presented
itself and I took it. That's the way it is sometimes and it's
good to have someone sympathetic to that kind of situation.
Fortunately my dad was sympathetic and understanding so no
double-jeopardy.
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